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On January 06 2013 07:17 Promethelax wrote:
I still haven't given this the read through it deserves. I'll read it when I get home from work in 12 hours and give my thoughts. Sorry this is taking me so long to get to, I joined up at the worst possible part of the week for me. 12 to 13 hours I'll be back. Hold me to it.
Hold me to holding you to it. I'll be up in the morning.
Wait there has to be some sort of downside to this then to compensate. Now scum can just drop all 3 KP onto dayvigs unless they want to use any other role. What is this madness
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I'm getting on TOR. I'll check every hour or so for information until I go to sleep.
I could say I'll post something but now I know what happens when I don't deliver.
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I don't get what mafia would stand to gain by shooting WBG today instead of shooting 3 others and taking care of him at night. He had a one-time power, and this way there would be questioning if WBG is really the cop or if he is scum.
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On January 06 2013 09:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 09:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't get what mafia would stand to gain by shooting WBG today instead of shooting 3 others and taking care of him at night. He had a one-time power, and this way there would be questioning if WBG is really the cop or if he is scum. There is NO way you lynch into the cop before lynching into the checked guy unless you got some pretty damn good reason to do so. We're talking about Jackal... You think people would have doubted WBG because of Jackals massive towncred and lynched WBG instead?
Yes but you're missing the point. Even if there is 0.0001% chance we would lynch WBG it would be better than 0% if WBG is confirmed cop by death.
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On January 06 2013 23:27 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 23:22 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 06 2013 23:15 Promethelax wrote:On January 06 2013 23:10 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 06 2013 23:08 Vivax wrote:
That's terrible logic. You're assuming scum wouldn't do mistakes. That is pure WIFOM.
I'm saying that scum talk about their night actions, they do it together, they don't fucking forget how many shots they have. You calling it wifom because there is a super small chance it really was scum making a mistake is dumb. Good enough scum players intentionally put mistakes into their play to appear townie. Don't be fooled by fools. I don't know Sentinel other than from this game and if he is scum he is not playing a strong scum game, therefore he would not make a play like this. The fact that you say he's a strong player makes it more likely he's town. I've never played with him before but I have read AoE and pyp:r. He seemed like a good but not incredible player. I have him in my mental list of mafia players on tl as 'above average' Someone who knows him better than I do (read at all) could tell you more. I agree with your read and disagree with your reasons. Don't get caught up in shitty heuristics.
I played with Palmar a lot, but Palmar isn't exactly the most straightforward person... nor the most trustworthy in this game.
I think I'ma take a page out of his book though and make one of those fancy spreadsheets. Maybe if I can actually read my own thoughts I can deliver them to the rest of you all better.
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So scum has a free 0.5 role every night
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On January 07 2013 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Until we kill 2 scum. With 5 scum KP is still 3.
Well with 5 they can only dayvig twice and then have to kill or else buy two 0.5 roles at the cost of a dayvig.
I could live with that.
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What are all your thoughts on Promethelax?
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Ima update my previous case on Prom once I get back from school.
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On January 08 2013 05:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
How is Prom town Hiro? He hasn't done shit this game but calling everyone retarded for no reason.
This. I've still got him labelled as scum because ever since I called him out he hasn't made a concrete case on anyone. Maybe one paragraph in any direction and nothing to say "this person is 100% scum and you should all lynch him at your earliest convenience"
If I had a gun to my head right now and was told to pick three lynch targets I would get Jackal, Prom and probably Palmar since in the end everyone he builds a case against flips blue.
Time to get my spreadsheet going.
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On January 08 2013 05:59 Promethelax wrote:
Don't be a stupid Sent. I'm not scum. You and I are more similar than you think.
No the difference is that when I'm arsed to do something and have the time I will actually go out and find something to accuse potential scum of.
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On January 08 2013 06:08 Promethelax wrote:
Yep, and I don't have time. I'm sitting in class and typing notes in one window and reading the thread in the other. But I play town by being involved and asking questions. I don't like to sit down and make huge cases, I'll do it once in a while but I like to find scum intuitively. And don't tell me it doesn't work. It does.
I'm not arguing that. About half of that goes for me as well.
The problem is that you're only pretending to be involved and you're asking for all this information without contributing anything of substance of your own. That is a scum tactic.
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On January 08 2013 06:15 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 05:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On January 08 2013 05:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
How is Prom town Hiro? He hasn't done shit this game but calling everyone retarded for no reason. This. I've still got him labelled as scum because ever since I called him out he hasn't made a concrete case on anyone. Maybe one paragraph in any direction and nothing to say "this person is 100% scum and you should all lynch him at your earliest convenience" If I had a gun to my head right now and was told to pick three lynch targets I would get Jackal, Prom and probably Palmar since in the end everyone he builds a case against flips blue.Time to get my spreadsheet going. Even if Palmar is scum, there would be no way for him to know that they are blue. they couldn't have used day cop because of KP limit. TBH, I think its crazy that people are willing to lynch Palmar just because he was pushing BC and Marv. Unless someone actually shows me that Palmar have a 100% scum hit ratio as town, I will treat this ''Palmar is never wrong as town, thus he is scum'' as total BS. 25/30 players in the game did vote for BC or Palmar and a handfull of those thought both were scum. Yet you only call Palmar scum...
Not the fact that he was gunning for blues but maybe educated guesses at discussion leaders.
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Or in the case of BC a good scapegoat
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Debears I think all your hatred of Vivax is reactionary
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Wait a tic. Is any part of that quoted post YOUR defense? Seems like it's you who's talking although the footer and header suggest it's all Vivax. I wouldn't mind reading it again with some proper formatting.
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On January 08 2013 21:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
If he's a town mason why would he not be confident that his logs "prove" him as town? That's my whole point.
If he's a town mason he'd already have the logs.
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On December 29 2012 02:01 Kurumi wrote:
Mafia of 5 starts with 2.5KP. If they want not to use it for roles, they might deliver 3KP of damage (since KP is rounded up). Since there is no Watchers, Trackers, Bullet Bills or any other funny roles like roleblocker it doesn't matter if you do or don't decide who's delivering the KP. [/b][/blue]
Clarifying
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Fuck trying to decipher this tonight
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel
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