I agree with marv. If you look at when Palmar rolls scum, he does this all the time. Towns leave him alone when he trolls so hard because "no scum would draw attention to themselves like that!" they conveniently look past the disruption to try and rationalize Palmar's play. Palmar is really destructive as scum because he can get away with it. This is particularly why he's good at playing third party. No scum will ever shoot a troll, and town won't lynch such a vocal vet.

So, let's kill him.

##vote Palmar

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January 04 2013 02:17 GMT

#1194

I don't actually remember the last time Palmar got any sort of pressure on d1.

In fact I don't even remember when the last time he was anywhere close to being lynched as either alignment.

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January 04 2013 02:25 GMT

#1198

Foolishness do you wanna kill Palmar with us?

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January 04 2013 02:27 GMT

#1200

I am guessing that when Palmar gets close to being lynched he'll claim mason with iamp.

too bad masons aren't confirmed town in this game

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January 04 2013 02:50 GMT

#1205

iamp you should post your logs now.

I don't find BC scummy atm. I actually agree with what Foolishess said about him earlier, though Foolishness hasn't said much-that in itself was worth remembering.

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January 04 2013 02:56 GMT

#1208

On January 04 2013 11:52 marvellosity wrote:

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it worries me a bit that i haven't really noticed him at all.

he's usually like that.

It's either that or him yelling at everyone for being bad. Which I'd love to see anyway cause it's fucking hilarious

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January 04 2013 02:57 GMT

#1210

BC when you see this:

please comment on Palmar. Not just an off-hand comment, please.

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January 04 2013 03:01 GMT

#1214

nah I wouldn't say he is lurking.

mafia over the past 3-4 months seems to have become really really spammy. BC is one of those guys who absolutely fucking hates spam, and it's no surprise that given the change in overall activity levels on the forum, BC would be treated as a lurkier player.

Think about it, the thread is at 40 pages. That's about 800 posts in around 24 hours with 30 players.

One year ago we had Mafia L, it was 50 players and it had 50 pages on day 1.

At this pace this game will break 80 pages by the end of day 1. In fact, the pace will probably increase given that the most inactive time is the beginning of d1. We haven't even seen posts by several players.

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January 04 2013 03:07 GMT

#1218

On January 04 2013 11:52 iamperfection wrote:

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you will have to wait till tomorrow unless palmar is around.

I have it saved at work

btw since you are not able to produce the logs right now, I am not inclined to believe them given that you have been outed already.

The last time someone said this, they were a scum mason (also in a Kurumi game)

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January 04 2013 03:11 GMT

#1220

it doesn't matter who it was, I have never encountered a town mason pair that

1. heavily implies they are masons in thread just for kicks
2. is not able to produce logs on demand

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January 04 2013 03:12 GMT

#1222

I think it is certainly possible they are both scum.

I haven't read too much into iamp's posts and the only reason I currently am suspicious of him is because of the fact that he cannot put forth the logs.

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January 04 2013 03:14 GMT

#1224

although it is believable that Palmar masoned him, given how iamp's opinion of him changed so drastically. That makes him look townier.

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January 04 2013 03:15 GMT

#1225

On January 04 2013 12:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
bugs you think it's more likely for scum to openly admit they have mancrushes on eachother, compared to town masons?

I think this question is loaded, and misses the point.

It's not about likelihood in this situation, since Palmar generally does what he pleases.

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January 04 2013 03:16 GMT

#1227

my concern is not iamp.

Also I'd love it if you ignored me, since I've pretty much been set on doing that to you already ^^

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January 04 2013 03:17 GMT

#1229

if they are both scum they wouldn't be masons, just faking being masons.

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January 04 2013 03:24 GMT

#1232

only once, but yeah. It happened like 2 or 3 times in that game though. Note that I mean that in that type of situation at least one of the masons is scum, not necessarily both. By town masons I mean both town. It's certainly possible iamp is simply telling the truth and then the fact that he can't come up with the logs is basically just null. It's still something to consider, though.

And, for the record, if logs exist they may not really mean anything at all if they're full of townreads or questions. If anyone has the time, go dig up Storm mafia and look at how I PMed syllo as scum. I managed to get him to believe I was town very quickly, enough so that I knew who his prot target on n2 was (someone masoned us together). I made sure to fake how I would PM with a townie as a townie, but below the surface I was basically just making stuff up to keep talking as much as possible, to convey the idea that I wanted to put as much effort into finding scum as possible.