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On October 17 2012 15:13 thrawn2112 wrote: As for austin.... bleh. I've played 1 game with him (town austin) and I've obsed a couple of his town games and he just seemed so much more straightforward and useful than he's being in this game. His word count is still really high but his post just seem way fluffier than what I'd come to expect from him. Also I still can't get over the vote sharing thing from D1. I can not understand how any town player would do that.... first of all that means that you don't trust your own judgement which I don't think that'd be the case with a town austin, and it also means that you have almost confirmed town reads in the people you're giving the votes to. He did it on D1... could he really have been so sure that kush and I were town at that point? Also, at the time he made the offer I believe kush was strongly in favor of lynching sandroba, and I was on the fence but I'd been the main person pushing sand's case all game. I am not convinced that town austin would have shared votes like that. And here's his justification for doing it: On October 18 2012 03:32 austinmcc wrote: I had a bunch of votes left. I wanted to get the most out of them that I could. Just putting them on a candidate is nice, but I wanted to DO something with them, make them work for town. I figured sharing them is one way to draw more thoughts/reads out, and to see how people use them. So, I want to give some votes away, and I want to do it in a way that gets information. I'll give out votes in exchange for reads. A town read, a scum read. That's a nice balance, and if I give any votes to scum it forces them to call someone townie, which is kind of nice. D1, as part of this weird system, I don't expect scum to call a scumbuddy townie, because they don't know wtf I'm doing. I figure they'll be less likely to try to manipulate what I'm doing, more likely to have to give some real reads for fear I'm up to something. But I still don't want to give votes to scum. So I need some kind of criteria to determine who I want votes from. Best way to not give votes to scum (from the information I had)? Give em to townreads. You seemed townie, and had been relatively vocal on some players, but you were pretty caught up in the people actually in R3 and R4. By giving votes to you, I forced you to look at a broader scope of players, at the whole game, and make some reads on players who were already safe. kush both looked relatively townie to me and...I want to encourage good posting. I much prefer Looney Lynching kush to Liquid City kush. In part, I gave votes to him to encourage the change in posting. Call it promoting a readable thread, call it promoting a good town atmosphere, whatever. kush was also mostly concerned with R3 and R4, so again, I wanted people to look beyond those rounds and de-theme the game, play like it were more normal and everyone was at play. So I both was trying to get two town reads to look at the broader game, to not limit themselves to just R3 and R4 players (no way did all of our scum make it that far). And I wanted to see what your reads would be AND what you'd do with the votes. That felt like a much better use of my votes than dropping them ALL on a single player, when it was lurker vs. maybe-town-sandroba-who-isn't-doing-much. Neither person was super scummy to me, like I said. So I'd rather make my votes work for town in a different way. Anyone want to weigh in on the vote sharing? | ||
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I don't want VE lynched, for reasons stated here: On October 18 2012 13:38 thrawn2112 wrote: no I don't want to lynch him because I don't like lynching replacements, especially when the replace in with like 24 hours left till lynch. As for your case, I don't think the "not giving potato to prplhz" is a good argument. Reading through his filter at that time it really looked like he had good reasons for not doing so. (He planned on giving prplhz the potato right before the 24 hour mark) Other than that the main stuff everyone (including me) has been citing as suspicious behavior was his lurking... well when he gets a replacement that makes me think he has legitimate real life reasons for his low activity. That does not point to townie or scummy... it just means he didn't have enough time to properly play the game so I can't make any judgement calls based on the fact that he was a lurker. Other than that, the posts he did make were well reasoned etc so I don't see anything damming enough to lynch his replacement. At this point my read on hiro is basically null and it's all going to be based off my read on VE from now on. I don't want hopeless lynched. Based on the logic case about ON vs hopeless, I think hopeless is town. A tldr summary of that case is here: On October 17 2012 21:02 thrawn2112 wrote: that's very interesting i'm going to read through the ON vs hopeless stuff so correct me if i'm getting this wrong but the logic works out to be like this: ON is scum. Sand is town. Scum don't want a scum in the finals. That;s why hopleess was originally set to advance instead of ON. We know this because it was ET who pushed ON into the finals, and ET is town. If hopeless and ON were both scum, then scum should have been bussing ON because he would have been the less detrimental loss. It would have made no sense for scum to push a scum hopeless into finals rather than a scum ON. Therefore the scum plan was to move hopeless (who is town) into the finals? I don't want kush lynched. I'd be quite surprised if he's scum.... both for his hammering of ON and for what I see as an almost identical match between his play this game his town meta. That leaves me with mementoss, djodref, and austin. My instincts all game minus D1 have been telling me that austin is scum... there's just something about the general tone and usefulness of his posts that seems different from the town austin I'm familiar with. Austin's case against mementoss is quite good. However recently mementoss has been townie as hell. I'd like to see more discussion about djo because recently there's been several things pointed out about him, and we've basically been ignoring him all game. In summary I'll be voting for one of the 3 above mentioned players, not sure which yet. I want to lynch memtoss the least out of those 3, and the choice between austin/djo mostly depends on what conclusion I come to about austin's vote sharing because that is a HUGE issue for me. Updated lynch list will prob look something like: 1 Djodref/austin 3 mementoss 4 hiro/ve 5 kushm4sta 6 da0ud 7 hopeless1der 8 thrawn If any of my town reads are going to be lynched I'm going to move myself up higher just so I can move them lower. When making these lists, it's going to be very important in how we rank everybody so we don't accidentally lynch someone we have no intentions of lynching. | ||
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but please tell me why you want to lynch a replacement. the fact that hiro was lurking and got replaced strongly suggests that regardless of his alignment, he truly did not have time to play the game and so his lurking was due to real life issues, and not anything game related. I don't see how you can have anything but a null read on him | ||
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![]() I think he's a mislynch and I advise other people who don't want him lynched to put him as far down in your list as need be. | ||
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Austin talking more about mementoss VE talking more about austin mementoss talking about why he backed down off of austin's case, and if he still wants to lynch da0/djo | ||
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On October 14 2012 01:03 Mementoss wrote: Yeah it would, but the hosts don't seem to keen on it so Im not sure. This post, regardless of his alignment, tells us that mementoss was of the opinion that ON is not going to be replaced. In other words, mementoss thought that ON was going to be modkilled. Why as town, would you want to vote for somebody who is going to be modkilled? It serves no purpose, unless you think the opposing candidate is town... which mementoss didn't. So it makes absolutely no sense for town mementoss to vote for ON, if he thinks that Sand is scummy (which he did) and if he thinks ON will be modkilled. Why would scum mementoss want to vote for ON, who he thinks is going to be modkilled? To gain towncred after the flip. Mementoss actually gives a close description of what I'm talking about here: On October 15 2012 20:48 Mementoss wrote: Also, I'm gunna try to shy away from the connection cases with ON. Simply for the fact that ON was the perfect bus target. He was useless, and inactive so was guaranteed to get lynched eventually and gave easy town credibility on any one voting him. It also gives scum a chance who voted him, to shift the attention off themselves by using oh he voted for ON not to move on in this matchup, SCUM SCUM. So yeah, I'll take it into account when reading filters, but I think ON was probably bussed. Here's a recap of what I'm trying to say: Mementoss though sandroba was scummy. Mementoss thought ON was a null read. Mementoss thought ON was going to be modkilled. Mementoss votes for the null read who he thinks will be modkilled, instead of using his vote on the guy he thought was scummy? | ||
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so wtf else would have been possible | ||
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On October 18 2012 21:03 kushm4sta wrote: @thrawn really good job improving your scum play since I called you out on it BTW If you're going to admit to ignoring everything I say then you may as well claim scum... you can't possibly be 100% convinced that I'm scum so either go ahead and claim scum or stop acting like scum kush. + Show Spoiler + And yes your post did serve as a wake up call. I've had kinda a shitty game and I haven't been taking it too seriously, especially after the D1 flip. I think yesterday or so was the first time I've been truly sober since the game's started. | ||
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mementoss, pretend that you are an outside observer of this game. pretend that you think mementoss is confirmed scum. who do you think his scum buddy would be? | ||
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