EPTThat would have certainly worked...other than ghost we would have lynched all remaining scum.
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That would have certainly worked...other than ghost we would have lynched all remaining scum. | ||
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austin on QT I checked and he WOULD count for our KP numbers. I don't understand why he'd count for our KP numbers but not our wincon. Maybe that's what Gonzaw is lying about? Really poor traitor claim to try and get us to let him live for that 3/2 situation and spring a victory? If so, that's stupid, because we'd win at 3/3 before the NK (he's only ever seen 1 NK, so he doesn't know we have extra KP). Ugh. I don't get his claim AT ALL. lol Yeah, I lied. I initially said I didn't count for mafia numbers to: -Not convince town to lynch me (if I tell them I count for mafia numbers there's a greater chance I'm lynched) -Confuse scum and not let them kill Chell to try and get me be a traitor (again being traitor means I'm more likely to get lynched and lose as town). Later S&B figured it out so I just told the truth and hoped nobody noticed (also if it confused scum even better). Again assuming there was only 1 RS left. | ||
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On October 12 2012 09:45 JingleHell wrote: Hi Gonzaw. Well sorry now you've made me paranoid about everything in a mafia game and I'll start tunneling players each game as soon as they tunnel me without reason. ...is that good or bad? I dunno, but I'm going to start doing it. | ||
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...but I agree with Matt, 3-3 scum means town has like 2% chance to win so I just completely discarded it from my mind. Like I said even if it was true and assumed it was 3-3 we would have lost anyways, so why bother thinking about the possibility of there being 3-3 scum? Man, this game depressed me, even if I won by someone else's actions. On October 12 2012 10:10 JingleHell wrote: Meh, how do you think I feel, a healthy chunk of the town reads on me came because I did shitty in PTP3 and made myself look like a repeat performance... How do you think I feel seeing you boast like hell in your scum QT and having me as your little bitch in there? ....lol I think in every QT (scum+obs+black) everybody thought I was scum....? .....really? Am I that hard to find townie? Wtf I must have the easiest meta in TL history. Also up until N1 I really tried to play reserved and not post walls of text or spam or speculate, but really the game mindfucked me later so I just didn't care. After Nisani flipped town I basically said "fuck it I'll just play without thinking", specially after all the BS flips and shit | ||
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This D1 was a miracle or something. Considering there are 6 anti-town players that would be extremely happy with a misslynch, the chances of a D1 misslynch are high as fuck. After that...it's 6 scum 6 town and it's the same thing. Very early in the game there can be more scum than town. How the hell can town win from that? Again, this game was like a super town display in comparison with what could have happened (D1 misslynch, N1 town death, D2 misslynch, N2 town death, bye bye town). | ||
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On October 12 2012 11:02 GreYMisT wrote: If you get lucky and lynch Dr. Kliner black scum will have a really hard time. Black scum team had 0 killing power other than gordan, so their job is to help town lynch scum anyway to get a foot hold. so that shifts the balance of power to the town some degree. Other than that town had a TON of medic protection. You lost some of it fairly quickly but mass claiming imo was a bad idea. Even if you were going to do that the fact mattchew did not use his power lost the game for town. Without Jingle or Matt sending in powers, the scum team knew exactly what was in play and was able to plan out their shots perfectly to net 2 kills, when previously they were lucky to get 1. Well..yeah but even if medics save every KP at night it doesn't matter if there are more scum than town at day that can very easily influence the lynches and misslynch. Black scum yeah, they might want to kill scum but they want to survive as well so I don't think they'd oppose a misslynch or at least not put the same effort in trying to get scum lynched as town does (not even talking about lynching their own). Assuming there were only 4 scum left the massclaim wasn't a bad idea to me lol. Just lynch one scum on D4, then lynch the other scum on D5, then maybe lynch the remaining scum on D6, easy. I seriously doubt the lynches after that point would have been anything other than austin/Hiro/Jingle. Maybe they could get a misslynch on me or Mattchew though. It's just that with 4 scum and 4 town and more than 1 KP at night you can't expect town to do much lol. Anyways the massclaim is what convinced me Jingle was scum so I don't really see it as bad. Also austin's claim was "too safe" as well and I put him as possible RS....but Jingle was the other option as considering how he acted on D4-N4 he had to be scum, which by process of elimination (if there was only 1 or 2 scum remaining) austin would be town. Other than that the claims hurt scum as well. Almost all of them except ghost claimed very passive abilities, and "unprovable" abilties, which is too convenient at that point in the game. Well.....actually the only "new" town claims by that point were Matt's and mine. That's not a "massclaim" lol (if you only consider townies claiming). Also Mattchew claimed by himself it had nothing to do with me > : ( I had to claim in my mind to avoid getting misslynched and get more people to believe my claim and believe me being town by trying to explain everything I did. It didn't help that almost all scum casted suspicion on it though, but I think on D4 every townie believed my claim...which is quite the opposite of the "lynch gonzaw" attitude everybody had on N3. So basically...the only "claims" town had were mine (that I made with the reasoning above) and Mattchews. So how exactly did it "hurt" town? I may understand Matt claiming being bad...and I don't really know why he claimed out of nowhere, but it's not really a "massclaim" if there are more fake-claims than real ones. | ||
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Don't know if this win is a good way to celebrate it or not... | ||
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"Being scummy" and "doing anti-town stuff" is not enough since there are plenty of players out there that are scummy and do anti-town stuff as town but because of their attitude or meta they seem obviously town (also I'm not that scummy). I feel like I'm one of them, specially when I reread the games where I'm scum and town and I say to myself "The differences are obvious! Hell I always act the same way when I'm town!"... ...meh, I guess that's something only I can see? Am I crazy here? | ||
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It's not that they thought I was town and tried to get an easy misslynch on me....scum thought I was from the other scum team (both of them I think) ....I don't know what to think of that lol N2 was the one where me and Jingle started that shitstorm right? I don't think there was nothing to do that night other than that though. | ||
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I remember you guys saying something, I think I'll check. | ||
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...well, you didn't know there was another scum until D3, but still. Yay! At least my win-buddies didn't thought I was really scum  @Hiro: If the only possible way you could be scum is being black, and there's also Jingle and ghost and Mattchew out there, I think using that "meta" thing to confirm you as non-BS was enough to convince myself for the time being. There was no way I could think of you as RS if you were IAM's sole remaining scumbuddy and just bussed him like that. ...if you guys were 3 scum it does make sense you bussing him (your other mate, austin, can try and force the lynch off IAM while you gain the town cred either way), but if you were 2 scum it wouldn't have made sense at all which is why you+Matt+Xfire were basically "confirmed non-RS". And if I had to choose between you and ghost (and again maybe Mattchew) as BS I would have chosen you last. WIth all of that it's not that hard to misinterpret your meta from that other game you played. ....fuck I hate multiple-faction games. Why do I keep joining them? ...wait did I join this game? I think I was automatically signed up or something lol | ||
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Either way Hiro was untrackable so my ability wasn't that useful. | ||
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 I tried to scumhunt on D3 but meh everybody was off parking a vote on Draz and leaving so I couldn't really do much since I wasn't too convinced. | ||
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That alone fucking scared me to talk about him, since something like N2 could happen but everybody else just ignores it. All the while I'm having a conflicting read on him so I can't really do much other than try to get Jingle to explain himself better and do something productive....which of course he wouldn't do at all if he could get away with it unharmed. *sigh* That frustrated me so much. After D4 though I would have gotten him lynched whether I thought he was town or scum I didn't give a fuck I just wanted him lynched. That final outburst against him felt good though lol. | ||
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On October 12 2012 13:55 Keirathi wrote: Holy shit, how do you have a 20 page filter in a 90 page game. Rofl. Why don't you check my D1 filter? Yep, only 1 page. I really tried to hold myself back with the posting there and be "pro-town" and change my playing style and all that shit. Once shit hit the fan though I just couldn't be arsed anymore. I mean, my filter doubled just on D3 alone, that should have given people some ideas lol. | ||
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On October 12 2012 14:00 Crossfire99 wrote: True, gonzaw. Lol. I guess town didn't participate enough. I mean Draz is Draz, matt and strong weren't really around. Nisani just kinda died lol. Ghost was never around because apparently his life was crazy busy. Jingle was active with his play, while I tried to keep low while playing townie enough to not get lynched, but not get shot. That didn't work out too well. lol. Yeah, so it was basically you and keirathi. It didn't help that half the game was scum and would have benefited from JH's rants so they would obviously not try to stop it. On October 12 2012 14:05 JingleHell wrote: That was part of why I continued actually thinking you were scum up to the end. You suddenly spiked activity when you found out about Black Mesa, which made me think you suddenly felt "safe" hunting for real. At that point I was kind of bummed about having conflicting reads and shit so I just didn't really care about scumhunting anymore (I've said so lots of times, specially on N2 I think). At that point the game got interesting so I spent my time trying to figure the setup out and player's colors and night actions and sort of play a detective figuring out the clues and shit. On October 12 2012 14:03 JingleHell wrote: ##Vote Gonzaw You've posted that so many times that it's just like an extension of your vocabulary lol On October 12 2012 14:07 Crossfire99 wrote: That's the thing. My ability wouldn't activate if any of them targeted me. Not position swapping, DT checking, or mind-controlling. Only someone else's ability that wasn't Black Mesa. Yeah Grey's "plan" that BS could have used to have constant night KP was kind of complex and far-fetched lol. Also....I think we would have noticed ghost swapping places every since night and him not claiming anything about it (well at least I think we would, if it was done every single night). | ||
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On October 12 2012 14:10 HiroPro wrote: ou needed to play townie enough to get some protection. I would have thought he would have gotten protection on N1 though. I mean, he was like "confirmed town" by that point, wasn't him? Why didn't any of the 4 "medics" (Nisani, Kei, S&B, Mementos) protect him? lol Also Matt, you made us waste 1 medic save on N1, that's not fair  Also: Grey on Obs QT: Just letting you guys know, by a stroke of extreme coincidence Gonzaw has become invincible this night cycle. thought that was funny lol when was this? hahaha it would have been funny if everybody shot me at the same time or something. | ||
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On October 12 2012 14:11 GreYMisT wrote: One thing to think about is 2 more people is 2 more roles that do things to the night actions You could have added Maverick's role from the original Aperture game in that case | ||
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On October 12 2012 14:15 HiroPro wrote: Why would he get protection? He was pretty useless. Plopping a vote down doesn't make you "confirmed town" and it certainly doesn't merit receiving protection. He hammered a scum from the (at that point assumed) only scum faction in the game on D1. If he was town, scum would have it almost impossible to get him lynched and he would be considered pretty much confirmed town (like many did) because of that fact, whether he's useless or not. That's enough for scum to shoot him (if he were town), which is enough to get him protection (to avoid a scum shot), at least from 1 of the 4 medics. I'm glad they didn't though of course On October 12 2012 14:16 GreYMisT wrote: Gonzaw you became invincible becasue Matt bussed you and Keirathi, and Drazerk stole Matts ability and Bussed you and S&B. This means any ability directed at you would be done to both S&B and Keirathi, and anything done to Keirathi would skip you and go to S&B. and vice versa Did S&B/Kei target me or one of them that night? I don't really get how that's being invincible. If let's say S&B was shot that night...I'd get shot instead and die, right? | ||
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lol that's funny. Hey, maybe that's a funny mechanic for a multi-bussers game or something like that. | ||
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