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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 22:54 GMT
#1614
5 minutes and nobody's around?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 22:56 GMT
#1617
JH hasn't come back, why are people voting ghost?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 22:59 GMT
#1623
So ghost is lying then? I skimmed the thread but don't have time to think about what he claimed.

...what if he's BS? Again, I think we should lynch RS today

I am not that sure Jingle is the RS, and maybe austin is and he's fucking with us or something, but I think it's the best course of action since he didn't come back and never reacted to my claim and also that theory I made and other shit
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:00 GMT
#1624
Well, austin or someone else you know what I mean (posted about it before)

fuck fuck 1 miniute
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:00 GMT
#1625
Derp

I guess ghost is lynched then.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:01 GMT
#1627
See? BS, not RS
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:01 GMT
#1628
Also I thought that would have been G-Man...but well
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:02 GMT
#1630
Okay, I'm tracking Jingle tonight.
Worst case scenario he's that "self-framer" or another GF and he visits someone that's not the guy that receives a shot tonight.

Or the other "worst case scenario" is that nobody is shot (which is actually good)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:03 GMT
#1632
lol his role sucks (he didn't fake-claim though)

lololol BS suck so much I feel so bad for them (assuming they are all dead by now)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#1634
On October 10 2012 12:40 gonzaw wrote:
One thing I failed to mention is that I think maybe the BS could have claimed his real role (if RS is a framer like I'm stupidly speculating).

Hiro could be BS and be a "re-director" (with more anti-town abilities I suppose as well). Mattchew could be BS and be a bus driver; Jingle could be BS and be that "super-hider" like some people argued about, and ghost could be BS and...whatever the hell he will claim (austin too. bla bla bla).

The thing is that I think the BS could have claimed his own abilities or part of them and just fake-claim his role name; while I think the RS may need to completely fake his claim (from abilities and all).
Mostly because I don't see a RS with any of the abilities that were already claimed (maybe again except Matt's bus driver one).


This is why we don't really compare claims with people we think is BS, but with people we think is RS.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:09 GMT
#1635
On October 11 2012 08:04 austinmcc wrote:
Emphasis on the second parenthetical there.


Yeah I forgot, Mattchew is still BS so kill him so I can win as traitor!


Anyways, good job Mattchew you are like 99% confirmed town now even though you did nothing to achieve that..
Don't know if you should bus JH with someone you think that might get shot because then I can't really track JH without knowing who you will shoot.
Meh, it's possible though, just tell me beforehand if you are going to do that or not so I don't directly track Jingle.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:13 GMT
#1636
Actually....BS's roles suck so much that it does make me think it may be possible they have 3 players (so there's 1 player left).
I mean, RS have factional KP, plus a super GF/JOAT plus a wannabe traitor that can count as one of them in end-game plus whatever super role the remaining RS has (I speculate Framer)
Those 2 BS can't really be a whole scum team in contrast...can they?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:15 GMT
#1638
Wait...did ghost think Drazerk was RS?
What other possible reason would he have, as scum, to swap positions with Hiro? Did he want to DT check Draz and see if he was RS to push his lynch and gain town cred or something like that?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:28 GMT
#1646
Yeah it's the only thing that makes sense (specially since people may notice him changing positions and find it weird and put attention onto him).

Maybe after Draz checked town he backed off, but if Draz had checked RS he would have gone against him...
...another thought is: Should we trust his other reports? Basically JH being town and Kei being town as well.
Obvious answer is no....but if he was the last BS on the verge of losing he would have given correct information to town to gain more town cred perhaps?
If he's not the last BS he could have fucked with us though, and maybe he checked other people instead of those 2 (maybe he didn't check Hiro last night at all and that's why he fumbled trying to explain his action last night considering Matt's bus....if this is the case then Matt isn't BS since if he was they would have planned it and not let ghost get caught in that lie).

On October 11 2012 08:15 Keirathi wrote:
Yea I'm sort of leaning towards a third black scum.

But, kill RS first. If we kill RS and its not end-game, then we worry about it.


Okay

...Mattchew you are not confirmed town anymore sorry.

I can already picture the flavour of it:

+ Show Spoiler [Matt's role PM] +

Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Portal Edition!
You are Chell
Gordon Freeman and Dr.Kleiner infiltrated the Aperture Science labs, and saw a beautiful lady lying in the floor of a test chamber.
They took her to a secret den and healed her wounds (from lasers and shit). After she regained consciousness she saw Freeman into his eyes: it was love at first sight.
After making passionate mute teleporting love inside a portal, Chell agreed to help Freeman and Kleiner to take down Aperture labs and everybody inside them.
"Yo know, fuck Wheatly and that Rattman guy, and also Cave Johnson for making this place in the first place. Those 2 robot guys that are doing tests too, fuck them, let's fuck some shit up" were her words as they teamed up to fuck some shit up.

You win when your Black Mesa team outnumbers all other players in the game


Being serious though...if they were BS I think they would have thought about ghost's claim a little bit better and not have both of them contradict their own claims/fake-claims (as I remember ghost contradicted himself with the Hiro/Keirathi check from N3 right?)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:30 GMT
#1647
...you will then use this data to determine the alignment of the player directly below you in the player list.


Nevermind I'm an idiot that doesn't read.
He couldn't have checked anybody else other than JH on N1 (unless he had swapped positions by then and nobody noticed..? >_>) and Keirathi on N3.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:35 GMT
#1650
If all of his actions are true and proven by his role PM, would Mattchew really be BS with him, be in his QT arguing but not being able to figure out wtf happened between them on N3?
I mean, ghost did check Keirathi on N3 (or maybe he didn't and faked it later?)

If Matt is BS and he faked his N3 report....wouldn't ghost know about it so he doesn't fuck up and would actually say "I got that Hiro was town/RS/BS on N3"?
If Matt is BS and didn't fake his N3 report, wouldn't they know there was something wrong as soon as D4 hits, and thus they had done something to tackle it before claiming? I.e ghost would claim knowing full and well that his real check doesn't make sense, therefore he'd try to make some argument or even lie or something, he wouldn't forget about that until he's already on the chopping block.

THere are those posts:

On October 10 2012 23:56 ghost_403 wrote:
Alright, I'm a Malfunctioning sentry turret. GLaDOS swapped my turrets with a portal gun, so I can swap places with peoples at night. Also, I can check the alignment of the person below me on the player list. Night 1, I didn't move and checked JingleHell. Night 2, I swapped with HiroPro and checked Drazerk. Night 3, I guess I stayed where I was at and checked Keirathi.


On October 11 2012 06:22 ghost_403 wrote:
What? No. I swapped with Hiro Night 2. Going into Day 3, I had the check on draz. Going into Day 4, I had the check on you.

That's all I know. Either Mattchew is lying about the bus, or the bus doesn't go through because my action is passive or something. My PM says that I check Keirathi Night 3. I'm assuming that in the event of a bus, it would have read that I checked HiroPro instead. Let me check.



So, according to this: Can we assume Mattchew is not BS?

Again considering Mattchew is Chell, by his D1 actions and my role PM we can safely assume he is not RS.

...so does this prove Mattchew is 99% town?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 10 2012 23:55 GMT
#1652
Yeah it's possible. His role PM never says he visits or does any action on the guy below him. The "action" that makes him possible to DT check the guy below him is swapping via portals to a place above him.

Well yeah, it did seem like ghost legitimately checked Keirathi. The point is that if Matt is telling the truth and is his BS scumbuddy...wouldn't they have figured that out sooner and not just when ghost was 5 hours away from getting lynched?
ghost would have claimed in his 1st post "I got a check on Keirathi, although I don't know what happened with that bus thing Mattchew did bla bla bla" to avoid giving conflicting reports and getting lynched for it (which is what happened basically).
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 11 2012 00:04 GMT
#1654
How about lying and saying he got a check on Hiro? Or saying his checks are bus-proof like Draz's ability?

There are plenty of ways to get out of that situation without just standing there not knowing what's happening and getting lynched for it.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're really reaching for something to confirm Matt.


The more confirmed townies the better. Specially if it's Chell who I don't want to die so people don't get paranoid about me.
Also to try and make sense of this situation and try to have less suspects for the remaining BS (if there is one)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 11 2012 00:31 GMT
#1659
Yo Jingle once you are done doing your hosting stuff from Looney Mafia chime in.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 11 2012 00:45 GMT
#1661
Yeah, S&B should WIFOM his save to try and save tonight's mafia shot.
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