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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2012 16:23 GMT
#1185
Mon ami francais! Who do you think 3rd party is, you clever chap?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2012 16:34 GMT
#1189
Why will no-one play my 3rd party game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2012 16:41 GMT
#1191
you're all meanies

*waves*

like, knowing who 3rd party is will HELP YOU later in the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2012 17:27 GMT
#1194
On October 05 2012 02:26 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
you're all meanies

*waves*

like, knowing who 3rd party is will HELP YOU later in the game.

Does 3rd party have the no-flip kills or is that you guys?


I have no idea what 3rd party has. Wanna guess who it is yet?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2012 17:56 GMT
#1196
I think you'll find word on the street is that I'm an uncounterclaimed vigilante who everyone is foolishly voting for.

Even I am voting for me. That's how fucked up this town is.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 05 2012 00:22 GMT
#1202
This game is boring.

Anyway, third party is very likely to be BloodyC0bbler. Thank me later.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 05 2012 01:09 GMT
#1204
oh em gee you so funneh

it's still true
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 05 2012 01:17 GMT
#1206
seems to give a shit about town but disappears at important times having seemed to have 'contributed'
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 05 2012 01:57 GMT
#1212
Seriously guys, BloodyC0bbler. I expect specific thanks from all of you later in the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#1229
gg all.

Go mafioso! <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 06 2012 10:41 GMT
#1468
Brb linking drh the word 'balance' in the dictionary
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 11 2012 10:14 GMT
#2322
*ahem*

Ou est les shitty pants?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 18 2012 10:23 GMT
#3614
gg.

Kreb, if you'd have lynched VE all over again, then you've learnt nothing from this game. Go back and look at what you did wrong.

slOosh - not sure why you're even asking. Why would you need to fuck with your town meta to play scum? It makes no sense. You were just *so* goddamn far off your town meta, and actually you're a good enough / clever enough dude for this not to be the case. Post more, push more cases, etc. - it's very simple...

VE, dunno why you didn't just accept framer, when I'd already flipped showing that I didn't just show up as town, but Lucky Citizen, as godfather - i.e. there was a precedent for role being changed as well as alignment
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#3621
On October 18 2012 20:20 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 19:23 marvellosity wrote:
Kreb, if you'd have lynched VE all over again, then you've learnt nothing from this game. Go back and look at what you did wrong.

You realize thats not helping me, right?


Without meaning to be rude, your own attitude isn't helping you. You just said, basically, "I committed this horrendous, game-losing mistake, but... yay! I'd do it again!" Which is silly.

VE didn't play perfectly, but you went tunnel-tastic on him, and one of the roots of it was you WIFOMing on my actions. You were told by numerous players that using anything I did/said is an exercise in futility, as skilled scum players don't leave obvious tracks, and you can see this now.

Again much as VE didn't play perfectly, there were far scummier players in the thread than VE. Both slOosh and ShiaoPi literally had no town features about their play. A couple of players made strong cases on DP (I believe relating to his kush flip flops etc?) as well as his large amount of implied knowledge about KP.

You're not stupid by any means, and if you'd taken a step back from your VE case (when plenty of people told you to do so), you are quite capable of seeing these other things for yourself.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 18 2012 12:27 GMT
#3625
On October 18 2012 21:16 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
On October 18 2012 20:20 Kreb wrote:
On October 18 2012 19:23 marvellosity wrote:
Kreb, if you'd have lynched VE all over again, then you've learnt nothing from this game. Go back and look at what you did wrong.

You realize thats not helping me, right?


Without meaning to be rude, your own attitude isn't helping you. You just said, basically, "I committed this horrendous, game-losing mistake, but... yay! I'd do it again!" Which is silly.

VE didn't play perfectly, but you went tunnel-tastic on him, and one of the roots of it was you WIFOMing on my actions. You were told by numerous players that using anything I did/said is an exercise in futility, as skilled scum players don't leave obvious tracks, and you can see this now.

Again much as VE didn't play perfectly, there were far scummier players in the thread than VE. Both slOosh and ShiaoPi literally had no town features about their play. A couple of players made strong cases on DP (I believe relating to his kush flip flops etc?) as well as his large amount of implied knowledge about KP.

You're not stupid by any means, and if you'd taken a step back from your VE case (when plenty of people told you to do so), you are quite capable of seeing these other things for yourself.

Well thats more helpful at least. The only thing I have to say about that is that last game I played I was totally onto the people playing without town features with the reasoning that "If they were town they would surely not play this bad/anti-town". You might remember it if you obsed it. What happened? Both my to pscum reads for that reason were both town. So I started to see lack of any features as exactly that, lack of anything. Which initially had me all null on sloosh, shiao and mattchew and I only started to suspect that trio when the field was thinning out and most other players remaining were more or less townish. I never really suspected any of them due to their actions...... because there were no actions.

Would you suggest always lynching players lacking of town (or any) features? If so, I'll definitely take it into account.


One of the hardest things in mafia is distinguishing between lazy/absent/bad town and scum, who have similar features.

Honestly, Matt *could* have been scum. But there were things about his brazen attitude that could have tipped you off otherwise.

ShiaoPi - iamperfection made a really *excellent* point, sadly ignored by most of the thread, that in an almost concurrent game as town, he repeatedly shouted at town for lack of activity. This should be lynchable by itself! The nature of his defences, when he appeared, how he appeared to jump all over DP. All scummy.

slOosh - if we contrast with Matt, slOosh pretended to make contributions, without ever actually doing so. Matt was just like "yeah i'm doing jack shit." slOosh popped in sometimes, made some conversation, maybe once made a case on a townie, and then left again. This is scummy in itself, but when compared to his usual meta (leader, helpful, strong) it's absolutely damning.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 12:31:32
October 18 2012 12:30 GMT
#3627
The cases should have been strong enough to get you lynched, but town were busy derping elsewhere.

edit: DP, you definitely played the best, and as town I'd have lynched you only after lynching the other two, but the cases + your implied knowledge (you went crazy in scumQT at your own slip remember) were lynchable as well.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 18 2012 12:50 GMT
#3632
On October 18 2012 21:37 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
On October 18 2012 21:16 Kreb wrote:
On October 18 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
On October 18 2012 20:20 Kreb wrote:
On October 18 2012 19:23 marvellosity wrote:
Kreb, if you'd have lynched VE all over again, then you've learnt nothing from this game. Go back and look at what you did wrong.

You realize thats not helping me, right?


Without meaning to be rude, your own attitude isn't helping you. You just said, basically, "I committed this horrendous, game-losing mistake, but... yay! I'd do it again!" Which is silly.

VE didn't play perfectly, but you went tunnel-tastic on him, and one of the roots of it was you WIFOMing on my actions. You were told by numerous players that using anything I did/said is an exercise in futility, as skilled scum players don't leave obvious tracks, and you can see this now.

Again much as VE didn't play perfectly, there were far scummier players in the thread than VE. Both slOosh and ShiaoPi literally had no town features about their play. A couple of players made strong cases on DP (I believe relating to his kush flip flops etc?) as well as his large amount of implied knowledge about KP.

You're not stupid by any means, and if you'd taken a step back from your VE case (when plenty of people told you to do so), you are quite capable of seeing these other things for yourself.

Well thats more helpful at least. The only thing I have to say about that is that last game I played I was totally onto the people playing without town features with the reasoning that "If they were town they would surely not play this bad/anti-town". You might remember it if you obsed it. What happened? Both my to pscum reads for that reason were both town. So I started to see lack of any features as exactly that, lack of anything. Which initially had me all null on sloosh, shiao and mattchew and I only started to suspect that trio when the field was thinning out and most other players remaining were more or less townish. I never really suspected any of them due to their actions...... because there were no actions.

Would you suggest always lynching players lacking of town (or any) features? If so, I'll definitely take it into account.


One of the hardest things in mafia is distinguishing between lazy/absent/bad town and scum, who have similar features.

Honestly, Matt *could* have been scum. But there were things about his brazen attitude that could have tipped you off otherwise.

ShiaoPi - iamperfection made a really *excellent* point, sadly ignored by most of the thread, that in an almost concurrent game as town, he repeatedly shouted at town for lack of activity. This should be lynchable by itself! The nature of his defences, when he appeared, how he appeared to jump all over DP. All scummy.

slOosh - if we contrast with Matt, slOosh pretended to make contributions, without ever actually doing so. Matt was just like "yeah i'm doing jack shit." slOosh popped in sometimes, made some conversation, maybe once made a case on a townie, and then left again. This is scummy in itself, but when compared to his usual meta (leader, helpful, strong) it's absolutely damning.

I gues you have a point about Shiao, but I dont have that meta knowledge really. Last game he was quite inactive until only like 5-6ppl remained too so I didnt consider him to be too far off compared to what I saw him as town.

Sloosh I wouldve found it very hard to lynch for that reason though. There were practically identical cases on Sloosh, VE, BC, Mattchew. And probably to a lesser extent on one or two more. "Too off their meta, much less helpful than usual". I dont think anyone couldve confidently single out Sloosh's scummyness compared to the others. Especially if you dont have any meta knowledge about them yourself.

But maybe I should be harder on non-contributors. Its probably gonna lead to quite a few policy-mislycnhes, but in the end maybe its worth it.


Well, that's why it helps to look into people's meta a bit. If you read the XXX analysis, Foolishness, probably the strongest town player TL Mafia has seen, uses it extensively in his cases.

Look at Shiao and how he randomly came in the thread screaming at DP and then left again. What's similar about that to LVII?

VE was very, very clearly more invested in the game than either slOosh or Shiao. Just look at the length of his filter for one. Or re-read his filter with townie eyes, and at many points he was clearly interested in finding scum. Can you say the same for slOosh and Shiao? BC made it abundantly clear why slOosh was scum, and Blazing caught on to Shiao very early too.

BC played with classic 3rd party characteristics. He's a classic day 1 shot, so him being saved would not be surprising on Day 1. But when he was around he was making good contributions, while at the same time not really being invested in town. That was my genuine read when I was alive and was correct. It's also why BC outed my entire team before he left the game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 18 2012 14:11 GMT
#3635
that's why i elaborated on the stuff surrounding the inactivity in my last couple of posts

you have to take stuff as a whole
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 18 2012 16:22 GMT
#3638
yes, I chose to appear as Lucky Citizen during Day 1, based on the assumption it was the veteran role and I would be able to make a play with it later on.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 18 2012 16:26 GMT
#3640
yes yes. go away
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