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Keirathi
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Keirathi
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Your vote is your means of pressuring someone and getting a response. If your vote is meaningless all game, no one is going to care about it and feel the need to justify themselves to you. You're basically giving up your only power as a townie for some contrived need of having your vote out. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 01 2012 12:37 kushm4sta wrote: @keirathi Why is parking my vote on someone I don't think is scum a good idea? It's only a good idea in the beginning of the game when i don't think anyone is scum and have 0 scumreads on everyone. As for your second question, a vote has an innate power no matter how you use it. If someone has enough at the end of the day they die. If you use it to pressure it is like an exclamation point at the end of your argument, and that is something that will be ignored by any level headed scum. Why is it a good idea in the beginning of the game? You still didn't explain that. If you don't have a scumread, why are you voting for someone at all? Your goal as a townie is lynch scum, not to settle some dispute from a past game. "Because he has a history of being mean to me" is literally the worst reason for a vote that I've ever heard. And yes, your vote has the innate power of being a factor in the lynch. But it has way more than that. And no, a level headed scum isn't going to ignore a case+vote on him, at least if its not a totally bullshit case+vote. He'll squash the case before it gains momentum. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 01 2012 13:17 Shady Sands wrote: But given that there are people who are possibly smurfing for others here What? Like, what even gave you that idea? I'm at least nominally familiar with every single person in the player list. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 01 2012 13:22 kushm4sta wrote: Yeah shady's arrogance that he thinks he can save us from the trolls (myself included) makes me want to lynch him really badly the more I think about it. Not for good reasons...I don't need a lecture about it. If you're not even going to try to play the game, why the fuck did you sign up? | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 01 2012 13:41 Z-BosoN wrote: Oh, ok, so it's so obvious that shady is scum, that whoever doesn't agree, is scum? Right. Since it's so obvious, let's hear it. You were the first to vote him for his trolling. Why don't you explain why you changed your mind from it being enough that you wanted to "mega-vote" him, into it not being scummy at all? | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 01 2012 13:44 Z-BosoN wrote: As a matter of fact, I think that's actually laughable. If I were scum like hell I'd want to put my neck out for a troll snot. I don't think he's scum. Oh, so you're another person that's content with lynching townies over finding actual scum. Gotcha. | ||
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Keirathi
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Keirathi
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Misunderstanding. I'm tired and my brain didn't click that you were the one that made the case on VE/etc. You still voted for a non-scum read for no real reasoning, which is what I was getting at. But you've moved past that into giving actual reads. Carry on. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 01 2012 13:59 kushm4sta wrote: Chill bro lay off them f bombs. I'm playing the game. Lynching who I want to lynch. Lynching someone who you don't think is scum is not playing the game if you're a townie. In fact, its demonstrably anti-town. | ||
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Keirathi
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No. I don't think he's trolling, I think he just has terrible logic. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 01 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote: Except I don't think he's scum at the moment. He's managing to be surprisingly unargumentative and I don't think he has the self-control to pull that off as a lie. His town games are littered with big scumslips, and I've watched/coached/hosted every single one of his newbie games. I agree with marv here. I obs'd his newbie games, and IMO as a townie he's relaxed and passive. As scum, he rages. I said it earlier, I think his logic is fucking terrible, but his mentality has been that of his townie play. But this isn't a newbie game, so I spent a lot of time trying to make him see that it was terrible. I guess he doesn't want to listen. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 02 2012 00:30 iamperfection wrote: I Saw that tails had a 15 page filter in mad men. Has he ever gone mia like this? My guess is that he didn't know the game started, and hasn't been around all weekend. His last post in the caller game was a few days ago, iirc. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 02 2012 01:26 Risen wrote: I don't think it's a scum slip, I think it's a tiny thing that adds up to him being the most likely scum candidate up for lynch right now. He's completely fine with lynching a towny, just because... it's not like the person he's ok with flipping green is playing horribly. The main reason I'm voting for him was outlined in my initial vote post in here. You complain about being invisible, but you've completely ignore mine and marv's posts about kush (and, even been too lazy to go look up his meta for yourself, apparently). I don't think his meta is strong enough to say that he's 100% town, but there's no way I would want to lynch him the other day. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 02 2012 01:39 Keirathi wrote: You complain about being invisible, but you've completely ignore mine and marv's posts about kush (and, even been too lazy to go look up his meta for yourself, apparently). I don't think his meta is strong enough to say that he's 100% town, but there's no way I would want to lynch him the other day. EBWOP: I meant "there's no way I would want to lynch him today". | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 02 2012 01:59 Risen wrote: EBWOP: And in that post you quoted I'm talking about Shady Sands. Did you think I was talking about kush? I'm confused now. How does it even make sense that you were talking about Shady? You said you didn't blame annul for his vote on kush. Matt asked you if you and annul both thought that him saying he was fine with voting a non-scum read was a scum slip. Risen wrote: He's completely fine with lynching a towny, just because... it's not like the person he's ok with flipping green is playing horribly. I don't see how that applies to Shady at all. It's a perfect description of kush though. So if you weren't talking about kush, then I think we're both confused? | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 02 2012 03:38 Risen wrote: How about you go read what Mattchew said and what I responded to before you try speaking in thread again. Here's what I saw happening: 1) kush says he would vote for Shady despite having a green read on him 2) annul says "Damn, that was easy. ##vote kush" 3) You say "I don't blame you for [your vote on kush]" to annul 4) (unrelated) Matt comes in and tells everyone to stop voting for Shady 5) Matt asks you and annul if you both thought that kush saying he would vote for Shady as a scumtell. 6) You said in reply to Matt: I don't think it's a scum slip, I think it's a tiny thing that adds up to him being the most likely scum candidate up for lynch right now. He's completely fine with lynching a towny, just because... it's not like the person he's ok with flipping green is playing horribly. The main reason I'm voting for him was outlined in my initial vote post in here. Can you honestly not see how I thought you were talking about Kush? I don't even see how you claim that this reply is about Shady at all. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 02 2012 03:45 Risen wrote: Oh shit I thought Keir was Kreb continuing something from earlier. I am bad, and I am sorry. Oh. Carry on, then. Although I'm still a bit confused  | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 02 2012 04:22 kushm4sta wrote: Stop shitting on me. They aren't logic loops... like im trying to do logic and failing. It's just me not giving a shit about logic I assure you. Then stop playing shitty and do you job as town and lynch scum, not somebody who you think is town but has bullied you in the past. Thats fucking worthless, ffs. | ||
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Keirathi
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That doesn't change the fact that I still don't like his wishy-washy attitude earlier in the game, nor how he picked Mementoss from all the other lurkers/non-contributors. | ||
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