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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 17:50 GMT
#1057
Ack. Doublesniped on some of the Ange --> Palmar action.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 20:13 GMT
#1073
On September 22 2012 05:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 05:04 Mementoss wrote:
On September 22 2012 05:00 marvellosity wrote:
On July 21 2012 04:38 syllogism wrote:
On July 21 2012 04:34 HiroPro wrote:
Syllo, why do you think Palmar is mafia? You haven't really said anything specific: just that his tone/attitude are off and he's not putting in effort.

It's his overall behavior, lack of effort and attitude towards me and sandroba especially. Some of his reads I think are genuine (for example what he says about layabout) and some clearly are not (his BM read). Can you find anything that indicates he cares about the town and wants to push town towards anything useful? He just pops in to say something irrelevant. Town palmar would never think I'm mafia by this point (as a side note, I actually think that there is a chance that he thought that I was early on and tried to "communicate" with me by random voting me).


if you don't want to listen to me, listen to syllogism


How is this out of context quote relevant to anything lol, its someones opinion on meta.


Because it directly applies to this game, it matches in every way. Palmar went after one of the stronger, more vocal town players in Bureaucracy (syllo), read me here. Hapa's all like "but this and this look genuine", here's syllo pointing out that as mafia Palmar does look like he's making genuine reads

"Can you find anything that indicates he cares about the town and wants to push town towards anything useful? He just pops in to say something irrelevant."

Again, a total mirror image of this game. He gives pointless town reads on iamperfection, but on important matters - prplhz, Ange, Hiro - he does nothing AT ALL.



Agree that some of his conduct is similar. Disagree that at the time he went after you, you were one of the more vocal town players. I know that you are often vocal, but in this game BH took that role and you were less vocal than you sometimes are, whether it was an intentional attempt to be more thinky or not.

Also, he replaced into this game. Unsure whether that changes conduct, but it's something to keep in mind that "replacing into a mini" and "starting a full-size themed game from the start" are not the same jumping-off point.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 20:27 GMT
#1080
I have no desire to lynch palmar or marv today.

If I thought that either of them would feel heavily pressured by a few votes, I might cast my lot in to see what it shook out of one of em, but I see you being able to keep their cool as scum under pressure, and I don't want to play games when I'm so sure ange is scum and we've got her up for lynch right now.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 20:32 GMT
#1082
On September 22 2012 05:15 marvellosity wrote:
The similarities are pretty clear in going after syllo and going after me. Yes, I was quiet at the start of this game, but Palmar also knows I am a threat to him in particular. Palmar has often said that syllo has the best grasp of his alignment of anyone in TL Mafia, and he went after him. Who knows Palmar's play better than me here? Anyone?

I assume you have played more games with Palmar than the rest of us. That doesn't correlate 1:1 with you having the best grasp of his play, being a threat to him, or any of that. What Palmar says about syllo is syllo-specific, and doesn't indicate there's some heirarchy out there of people who can read him that goes in order according to a single variable.

Playing a lot of games with him doesn't necessarily mean you can read him well. I'd have to go check past games with both of you in them to see how you read him. Even if I did that, I'd still be voting ange today unless something drastically changes on that front.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 20:45 GMT
#1086
On September 22 2012 05:41 iamperfection wrote:
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On September 22 2012 05:38 Mementoss wrote:
zzzzzzzzzzzzz ange's last post 29 hours ago.

Before the suspicion on her the longest she was inactive from this game was about 13 hours.

should we alert the authorties? get search teams together?

Bush, search party of three! You can eat when you find the Dufresnes.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 20:51 GMT
#1089
On September 22 2012 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 22 2012 05:27 austinmcc wrote:
I have no desire to lynch palmar or marv today.

If I thought that either of them would feel heavily pressured by a few votes, I might cast my lot in to see what it shook out of one of em, but I see you being able to keep their cool as scum under pressure, and I don't want to play games when I'm so sure ange is scum and we've got her up for lynch right now.


Problem is, you're wrong.

Abut which part? You think one of you, if scum, would respond poorly to pressure?

Or you just think I'm wrong in one of my reads or in not wanting to vote for you guys?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 20:55 GMT
#1091
On September 22 2012 05:52 marvellosity wrote:
You should be voting for Palmar. Everyone should. Probably Ange and Palmar are both mafia, but Palmar is way more of a threat.

The discussion of the last few pages demonstrates that enough

At this point, IF either one of them is mafia, I don't find them to be threats. Neither has a big presence. Palmar, in particular, has not played a crucial role in any kind of collective town read this game.

Yes, you and he are dominating discussion, but he is not driving ideas anywhere and he doesn't seem to have any pull over the thread. Why do you find him to be a threat?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 21:01 GMT
#1097
On September 22 2012 05:56 marvellosity wrote:
because, for example, he already got Hapa, someone I hold in high regard as to logic and reading abilities, totally confused about his interactions with Ange/Hiro/whoever. This isn't something Ange does.

Okay, when you say something like that I focus more on active disruption, which he doesn't seem to have the credibility to pull off this game. Agree on that at least?

As to what you're talking about, yeah. The longer he's alive, or anyone's alive, the more time they have to post whatever. And they can make it look townie to some. But I'm just not as worried about that as you are.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 21:03 GMT
#1099
On September 22 2012 06:00 marvellosity wrote:
The whole way Palmar plays mafia is to sow enough confusion into town that by the time he's lynched town don't know who's connected to what or where.

So far, I'm pretty happy with this town. Right now I trust it not to rely on connections springing out of Palmar, if Palmar is mafia and gets flipped, in order to win.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 21:42 GMT
#1107
IF Palmar is scum and IF he's dangerous because he can cause more confusion if left alive, then right now, the best opportunity for him to sow confusion is TO DO EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING.

Sit back. Not say anything. Let you keep ranting about him. Let the rest of town keep keep trying to deal with your ranting against him. The more you post about him, the less likely townies are to keep slogging through your posts. It doesn't help create a concise or readable thread either. And, as of now, it's ineffective in terms of actually getting him lynched. If you're actually worried about Palmar because his continued existence is a danger to town's ability to solve this game, you are actively feeding into that by spamming so much about him when, for now, it seems relatively clear that ange is still the player that town wants to lynch.

If you know Palmar so well, the flip side is also true. Palmar has played more games with you than with the rest of the players in this game, as far as I know. That means that IF he's going to be dicking with anyone's head, it's going to be yours. So quit letting him.


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 21:51 GMT
#1109
On September 22 2012 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not, town should be lynching him, that's all.

You want him lynched. You haven't said you think ange is not scum.

The reason you said you wanted him lynched over her is because he's got a great ability to sow confusion.

You're feeding that.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 22:01 GMT
#1111
If I hadn't read movie mini I'd be finding you pretty scummy based on all this. Even having read it this makes you look weird.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 22:09 GMT
#1118
Zeph's on palmar atm, but otherwise it looks pretty much like that.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 23:42 GMT
#1123
On September 22 2012 08:12 Ange777 wrote:
have missed something. But please rather sooner than later cause otherwise I'll go to sleep first.

What would your read be on me if all you had was the TOO obvious post and the prplhz vote post?

What is your current read on mementoss?

If you had to choose a lynch target for today that wasn't you, palmar, or marv, who would you be looking at and why?

If we weren't playing mafia, and everyone in this thread was actually a mountain (except you), who would be the tallest mountain? Which mountain would have the most wildlife living on it?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 23:54 GMT
#1126
I messed up the quote above, but, if nothing else, would really like the mountain question answered. The others are secondary.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 21 2012 23:56 GMT
#1128
On September 22 2012 08:55 HiroPro wrote:
austin, why do you always ask such weird questions?

I don't really want to reveal.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 22 2012 00:05 GMT
#1135
From the OP
Scum KP is fixed at 1. SK KP is fixed at 1.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 22 2012 00:08 GMT
#1139
On September 22 2012 09:06 Ange777 wrote:
I think I saw someone posting scum kp is 2 ...

The same thing that happened here happened after the night flips. There was momentary 2 v 1 KP confusion.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 22 2012 00:11 GMT
#1143
On September 22 2012 09:08 Ange777 wrote:
What's the deeper meaning behind your mountain question?


On September 22 2012 08:56 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 08:55 HiroPro wrote:
austin, why do you always ask such weird questions?

I don't really want to reveal.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 22 2012 00:13 GMT
#1146
On September 22 2012 09:12 Ange777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 09:11 austinmcc wrote:
On September 22 2012 09:08 Ange777 wrote:
What's the deeper meaning behind your mountain question?


On September 22 2012 08:56 austinmcc wrote:
On September 22 2012 08:55 HiroPro wrote:
austin, why do you always ask such weird questions?

I don't really want to reveal.



Well I thought that you don't want to reveal because I had not answered.

Oops. Nope. If I reveal then it ruins future usefulness, and I lose half my ability to read grush in other games.

Gotta keep it secret for now.
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