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On September 22 2012 09:13 austinmcc wrote: Oops. Nope. If I reveal then it ruins future usefulness, and I lose half my ability to read grush in other games. Gotta keep it secret for now. Any comments on my defense? Or are you content testing me whether I am trolling or not? | ||
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On September 22 2012 09:26 austinmcc wrote: The read on mementoss is null. You could not have caught up from either alignment. None of the stuff you answered was on the same page as his claim, so you may very well not have seen it. The day post WAS on that page, but again that doesn't really come out one way or the other. The answer about your read on me is...not an answer. I was wondering just based off the two scummy posts I have, what your read would be. Happy you've got the correct read on me, but I'm unsure exactly when and why it went from null/town to town. Care to give the reasoning behind it? I know it's kind of nitpicky and technical, but my vote is staying on you because of that deadline conduct. I really find it weird that you'd ask about the mason claim, then do nothing when it was clear they were claiming masons. If you thought iamperfection's vote swap was funny, that would mean you thought the whole scum team revealed themselves in like...2 minutes (:56 was the claims, :58 was iamperfection's vote iirc). Then you're so convinced he'll flip red, despite asking whether prplhz confirmed the mason claim. IF he did, you still voted him. IF he didn't, you had no reason to unvote him because of how they screwed up the claim. So...you were going to lynch him whether he claimed mason or not. I'm still mulling over your mountain answers. May I ask why iamperfection for tallest mountain? I guess I didn't catch the "scummy part" from your too obvious post. Hence the first read. I explained marv already why I thought your second explanation made you townier in my eyes. Furthermore through the pressure of being lynched you remained helpful in making cases. I don't know what's wrong with asking him if he is confirming the mason claim or not. He claimed vig and than proceeded to contradict Hapa immediately. I was confused because this was a totally failed claim and for the chance that prplhz indeed was town he should immediately correct the claim. But no he did not but chose to continue trolling which made me keep the scum read on him. I admit the claim made me falter a bit but only because my town read Hapa was claiming as well. So yeah, for a short time I thought that we might even have the third scum revealing himself. | ||
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On September 22 2012 09:48 austinmcc wrote: For the most part, I find nothing wrong with asking. What I find scummy is that: (1) You asked, then didn't do anything with the response. Like, you wanted to know this information because you asked, but then you didn't do anything with his ... I guess indirect answer of them continuing to say they were masons. (2) Related to that, you asking makes it seem like the answer matters to you. While prplhz was still trolly, their response made it clear that they were both claiming mason. You kept your vote on them, not just the vote, but you were waiting to get the celebration started, so you thought him scum. So we know that
(3) From your comments, we can't really see you "falter." All we have to go on is this absence. And we can't interpret that as you faltering any more than we can interpret it as "so happy to have lucked out and gotten a mason lynches" or "celebrating in scum QT." Okay, I think I finally understood your concern. Yes, from their responses it was clear that they are indeed claiming masons. But the way prplhz claimed his mason through trolling and his I-don't-care-whether-people-believe-me-or-not-attitude and his I-don't-care-whether-I-die-or-not-attitude are what made me not change my read on him. Not the confirmation of the claim itself. If he really was town, he should have seriously claimed and tried to convince people. | ||
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On September 22 2012 18:44 marvellosity wrote: Ange, I absolutely need an explanation for what's been bolded here. I don't understand why you don't understand. I explained earlier why I had a scum read on iamperfection before the claims. So why is me thinking iamperfection's sudden vote switch to be scummy a scum tell itself? In the moment where I asked him why he vote switched the flip had not occured yet so I did not know that prplhz was town. So of course I assumed that scum iamperfection is getting town cred for jumping on scum prplhz. Only in hindsight I admit that the logic might be flawed but that does not mean that it did not make sense at the time of my question. If I still have not answered your question please tell me more precise what you are asking for because I have the feeling that we are just going in circles and circles discussing my potential scum slip when in the meantime discussion about other suspects is almost dead. Some people have accused me of only focussing on the easy targets and not seeing the big picture of in total 3 scums but what are you guys doing right now? Just tunneling me and forgetting that there is more than just one scum you should look out for. We had such an active day 1 and right now discussion is almost non existent. Ask yourself why. Because I am an easy lynch. And in my experience easy lynches are mislynches ... My biggest scum read is still Palmar. Look at his nonexistent contribution. At the way he defended prplhz and also the way he defends me. He just tells you to not lynch these people. No explanation. Why would he do that? Because he is scum, he knows I will flip green and he knows that he is going to get town cred again for opposing to a mislynch just like he did with prplhz. @Mementoss: So I am not allowed to comment on a bad case just because it might seem like an OMGUS? And yeah, you mentioned your stupid smiley rule like 3 times in your own case. That should allow me to call your rule stupid 3 times. | ||
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iamperfection > still leaning scum marvellosity > null/town Zephirdd > scummy Mementoss (vigi) > scummy semi-confirmed town bluelightz > lurker/sheeper > null/scummy Palmar > scum Hapahauli > town HiroPro > lurker > null/scummy austinmcc > town | ||
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I might not have been the most helpful in this game yet but Palmar is just screwing with you using his "Palmar cred". No explanations for his play, no effort in defending his town reads because he can't defend them. He is just using his knowledge of alignments to back up his reads! He is scum and should not get away with it. | ||
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On September 24 2012 20:39 Hapahauli wrote: Where d'ya go? It's uncharacteristic for you to be gone all weekend without any warning to say the least. Unfortunately, no. On September 22 2012 09:57 Ange777 wrote: EBWOP: It's like almost 3 am here now so I'll be going to bed. I can't promise much activity over the weekend in general but I'll definitely be here and post my case on Palmar and address any further questions. Something urgent came up  I really am sorry for the inactivity. If I had known beforehand I probably wouldn't have signed up.As for austin's mountain question. I am a bit surprised that he was that serious about this question. I thought it was more of a trick question or a trolling question because I can't think of anything important in this question that could help explain my alignment ... I was looking at the filter list on page 1. iamperfection had the longest name ... longest ~> tallest. And Zeph reminded me of Zebra therefore wild life ... | ||
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On September 24 2012 08:31 Hapahauli wrote: But back to scum #3, is there anyone that actually thinks that Ange could flip town after this? Oh yeah, about this. Maybe I should have said suspicious instead of scummy. These two words are pretty interchageable usually so I did not think that much about it. | ||
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On September 24 2012 22:11 Hapahauli wrote: Ange, while you were busy most of the weekend, will you be available and active in the next few days? Also, I'm interested in hearing some of your updated reads - particularly on Hiro, iamperfection, bluelightz, and mementoss. I should be available and more active in the next days. Hiro I could only repeat what has been mentioned by others. No contribution and clear trolling should be more than enough to prove that he is scum. ##: Vote HiroPro iamperfection I had a strong scum read on him. Don't think I need to repeat why. The reasons were elaborated more than once. I'm not so sure anymore. His posting is much better than at the start of the game, more open in his thought process. I am leaning null on him right now. Bluelightz I seriously don't know how to read bluelightz. While you are free to call my filter small, his is really tiny. It's hard to imagine someone signing up for a game and lurking all the way so that he has a 1 page filter at day3. My problem with it is that I could not read him in GSL as well. Still Scummy. Mementoss I am not sold on his town-alignment. I really didn't like the way he nitpicked my filter and tried to accuse me of scummy behaviour when he himself did the exact same thing. I have not read anything that made me think he's townie yet. | ||
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On September 25 2012 00:26 HiroPro wrote: Ok guys. I seriously don't understand what you're doing. I made a great case and none of you are actually reading it. Let me put it this way to you. Serial killers have 1 KP. Mafia teams have 1 KP. How many people do you need to kill in order to get rid of the serial killer? Only 1. How many people do you need to kill in order to get rid of mafia? 2. SO WHY ARE WE NOT KILLING THE SERIAL KILLER MARV!!! Ok, while I don't believe marv to be the serial killer, the logic seems sound. Am I missing something why we should kill scum first before serial killer if we were equally sure/suspicious of them? | ||
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On September 25 2012 00:59 Mementoss wrote: Wat how does that balance, 1 extra scum, double the KP. Same amount of players? :S You said it yourself? SK soaks up potential scum killpoints? | ||
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Why is day 1 the most important day? On September 19 2012 20:28 Ange777 wrote: prplhz' two pages filter contains a lot of fluff and useless stuff. He has not made much effort in scum-hunting, just some occasionally prodding. He gives himself excuses for not reading the thread closely. His case on marv is really weak. And he is already back-paddling from said case. Scum. | ||
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