EPTAlthough if that's true then I don't understand drazerks play unless he is bulletproof Turk and is deliberately trying to draw fire while outing a slav bloc.
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
Although if that's true then I don't understand drazerks play unless he is bulletproof Turk and is deliberately trying to draw fire while outing a slav bloc. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
If he is scum, then neither did the koreatian. If he is indeed koreatian, well, sup Hiro | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On September 19 2012 11:41 HiroPro wrote: Even if Zeph were Bosnian, why would they do this when they weren't willing to claim one person to save him earlier? Tbh, I don't know that the situation is all that different for them. But I figure it's an idea worth throwing out there for them to consider. If he was Bosnian, then before, there was a chance that he doesn't get lynched. Seems like we didn't all understand the deadline. Now that's entirely gone, and they'd be down a man. By claiming, they'd pretty much ensure that no town KP comes their way, and there's no issue of a DT checking them overnight and pushing them hard tomorrow because of a red check. Just seems like if he were Bosnian then their situation is a little different now, maybe enough so that they'd want to claim. Only the bosnians and turks know his alignment for sure, but, if nothing else, it's something to keep in ming going forward in case they lose a(nother) player or two. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
i just want him to die because i dont like playing with him. for actual scum, there are so many people not giving a fuck like me marv maybe? he posts a lot for someone not giving any fucks like he is. idk though. it's hard to figure out how to think about this game. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On September 19 2012 12:16 strongandbig wrote: no i dont mean i think hes scum i just want him to die because i dont like playing with him. for actual scum, there are so many people not giving a fuck like me marv maybe? he posts a lot for someone not giving any fucks like he is. idk though. it's hard to figure out how to think about this game. what happened to killing romanians? | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 19 2012 12:25 iamperfection wrote: what happened to killing romanians? i was persuaded by the fact that turks have 3kp and romanians dont. we can always lynch romanians later. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
why should drazerk die by lynch you are just saying things for no reason | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
so many reasons for this crazy sock Z-boson will never understand me Deary just stop trying to apply logic see | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Anyways, if you want to talk with me, do it now I don't have all day and with this bullshit of a posting restriction so I'm not going to post d2 besides voting. I asked caller pregame if highlighting stuff in votes is allowed (e.g. "##vote Toadesstern") and he said I'm not allowed to do that. I'm not allowed to vote in patterns either. I could have made something like ##vote guy-#1 ##vote guy-#7 ##unvote ##vote guy-#6 ##vote guy-#E ##unvote to get messages to you via hex but that wasn't okay either, that's the reason he said I only had one vote left d1 because he apparently thought I'm delivering secret messages when all I wanted to do was basicly getting people to know that I'm arround but can't post via "switching the light on and off" frantically. Though from now on I will vote in lowercase / how the name is written to get a message across (like the one with mattchew...) and if I want someone lynched I'll vote in all caps. Caller has to allow that at least. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
That being said, I want to concentrate on the things people do say: First, while I despise Risen's "new playstyle", I don't think it's that probable he's scum anymore - he feels nullish/slightly scummy to me, not a real lynch target. Second, Z-BosoN's case on Drazerk is pretty weak: He calls him out for attacking Sheth, who did behave suspiciously before, and seems to really tunnelvision on scum play in his posts. Normally I would tolerate that kind of play as "heavy tunnelvision happens to every town player once in a while" but what makes it bad for me is that Drazerk is a claimed Koreatian cop, and there were no Koreatians to counterclaim until now. I see this as a Turk wanting to get rid of a cop (and one of the few really active players this game has, too!) Also, what the hell ~OpZ~. You have a pretty nice posting history going on, even though you weren't the most active player, and in your last post you give strong opinions about people without any reasoning at all which is kind of sad, so it would be nice if you elaborated on your thoughts on that. Why do so many people feel Drazerk needs to die anyway? I don't think he's scummy at all, just kinda annoying. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 15 2012 02:44 talismania wrote: I'll add a hearty REMOVE KEBAB to my earlier /in... and a question: Can you make it a rule that you aren't allowed to claim your faction? Otherwise I see this setup just getting flat-out broken by a mass claim from the townies. Turks can't hide among the other factions so they'd be all outed immediately. The game would then be very very weird from there. I mean it would still be playable but you wouldn't have the fun of not knowing if people were defending people because they're allied with them or because they're townies with them or if they're scum with them. and Caller answered this way: On September 15 2012 02:52 Caller wrote: why would i do something like that i already tested this strat and it results in turk win see: 1400-1800, European History So why are you fond about talking about claims, talking about how everyone is supposed to be claimed by the end of d2 at the latest, how at least one out of every faction should claim? I get it, Matt didn't read his pm and screwed up and while I'm pissed about it I'm not pissed about him because it was a mistake and nothing on purpose. Though next time he claimes SOMETHING in a game I'm in I'm getting him lynched for educational purposes no matter what, no matter if the claim makes sense (e.g. self aware miller) or whatever else. You on the other hand asked this very question yourself. You should certainly remember this. Why don't you? What's the reasoning for being to talkactive about getting everyone claimed? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18195 Posts
On September 19 2012 21:51 Toadesstern wrote: Sup guys, seems like I did not end up being modkilled and Caller doesn't want me to ragequit for the sake of my team and the still existing 1 out of 100 chance to win the game, yeha! \o/ Anyways, if you want to talk with me, do it now I don't have all day and with this bullshit of a posting restriction so I'm not going to post d2 besides voting. I asked caller pregame if highlighting stuff in votes is allowed (e.g. "##vote Toadesstern") and he said I'm not allowed to do that. I'm not allowed to vote in patterns either. I could have made something like to get messages to you via hex but that wasn't okay either, that's the reason he said I only had one vote left d1 because he apparently thought I'm delivering secret messages when all I wanted to do was basicly getting people to know that I'm arround but can't post via "switching the light on and off" frantically. Though from now on I will vote in lowercase / how the name is written to get a message across (like the one with mattchew...) and if I want someone lynched I'll vote in all caps. Caller has to allow that at least. It's night. You're allowed to post. You're not dead. And the best you can come up with is this? Lol. Look at all the Romanians putting 0 effort into this game. I feel like policy lynching all of you out of spite. Claim group of veterans, then /afk. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 19 2012 22:16 Acrofales wrote: It's night. You're allowed to post. You're not dead. And the best you can come up with is this? Lol. Look at all the Romanians putting 0 effort into this game. I feel like policy lynching all of you out of spite. Claim group of veterans, then /afk. yeah I already said I'm not going to read the game. Go ahead and policy lynch me, I'm not allowed to ragequit. I'd be very happy to not have to check in here every 72 just to place my vote on some random dude I don't care about... | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 19 2012 22:16 Acrofales wrote: It's night. You're allowed to post. You're not dead. And the best you can come up with is this? Lol. Look at all the Romanians putting 0 effort into this game. I feel like policy lynching all of you out of spite. Claim group of veterans, then /afk. I actually consider this to be pretty insulting, just to let you know. And I hope that you're posting like that because you think it's good for you wincon... Claimed group of vets? Sorry I'm not allowed to post during the day, wasn't able to interfere when my mate asked why we're not all just claiming and he decided to claim for all of us while EVERYONE except for him was incredible mad about it. Lynching all of us out of spite? You realize that we're the guys who can't win the game anymore because Matt forgot to read his pm before claiming for all of us and you're the one being angry? You've got to be kidding me. See you in 72 hours. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18195 Posts
On September 19 2012 22:33 Toadesstern wrote: I actually consider this to be pretty insulting, just to let you know. And I hope that you're posting like that because you think it's good for you wincon... Claimed group of vets? Sorry I'm not allowed to post during the day, wasn't able to interfere when my mate asked why we're not all just claiming and he decided to claim for all of us while EVERYONE except for him was incredible mad about it. Lynching all of us out of spite? You realize that we're the guys who can't win the game anymore because Matt forgot to read his pm before claiming for all of us and you're the one being angry? You've got to be kidding me. See you in 72 hours. 1. My wincon requires my faction to outnumber other slav factions, which includes Romanians. I cannot expect NKs on you, so yes, policy lynching romanians suits my wincon. 2. HOWEVER, the primary part of my wincon requires me to kill Turks. That is what I am focusing on. That means that Mattchew's claim was a good claim. It makes it incredibly unlikely that any Turk or vigi will target you. That means that Mattchew made all 4 of you NK-proof and now all you have to do is make sure less of you get lynched than other factions get NK+lynched before all the turks die. Seems pretty easy as it looks like we have 5 turks left to kill (assuming 6 at the start and Zephir a turk) and Tali is completely right in that they should be a priority until they are all dead. That gives you plenty of time to vig hit other factions with your own paramilitary dude, while deterring any nightly hits yourselves because of the claim. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 19 2012 22:44 Acrofales wrote: 1. My wincon requires my faction to outnumber other slav factions, which includes Romanians. I cannot expect NKs on you, so yes, policy lynching romanians suits my wincon. 2. HOWEVER, the primary part of my wincon requires me to kill Turks. That is what I am focusing on. That means that Mattchew's claim was a good claim. It makes it incredibly unlikely that any Turk or vigi will target you. That means that Mattchew made all 4 of you NK-proof and now all you have to do is make sure less of you get lynched than other factions get NK+lynched before all the turks die. Seems pretty easy as it looks like we have 5 turks left to kill (assuming 6 at the start and Zephir a turk) and Tali is completely right in that they should be a priority until they are all dead. That gives you plenty of time to vig hit other factions with your own paramilitary dude, while deterring any nightly hits yourselves because of the claim. You know what Matts claim primarily does? It let's you know how many of us are still alive and wether or not we can win the game and if we're about to win the game who you need to lynch to make sure it's not happening. That's the reason we can't win anymore because you know about wether or not we're going to win BEFOREHAND and therefore you can just not let us win and lynch us instead of mafia. I don't care when you're going to lynch us just stop whining about how unfair it is that we're vets and we're in such an advantageous position because we can't win unless we ALONE hold more than 50% of the votes and can decide the lynch on our own, which is very unlikely to ever happen. If that's not happening you can just lynch us before we're able to win the game and we'll never ever get into a spot where we can actually not lose. Even if that were to happen you'd still have mafia KP + a potential town vigs to reduce us to less than 51% of total votes though as already mentioned it's not like that's ever going to happen because that'd be a situation like: 4 romanians vs 2 mafia vs 1 not romanian. That's the only situation in which we can possibly win. Noones retarded enough to let us into that position so stop whining about how unfair this is and how awesome of an position we're in. We're not. We've lost the game and from my buddies posting habbits I'm pretty sure they're not playing the game either so do whatever you feel like doing, noone cares about it. | ||
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