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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2012 20:23 GMT
#261
People think it will brake the game too much Mattchew >.<
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 17 2012 20:24 GMT
#262
These should be working filter links.

Assuming NBM and AA are smurfing?

+ Show Spoiler +
1 : OpZ
2 : Coagulation
3 : HiroPro
4 : Austinmcc
5 : Strongandbig
6 : Drazerk
7 : Mattchew
8 : Zephridd
9 : Iamperfection
10 : Talismania
11 : Z-Boson
12 : Toadesstern
13 : Acrofales
14 : grush57
15 : Risen
16 : OriginalName
17 : MidnightGladius
18 : risk.nuke
19 : ghost.403
20 : NotBillMurray
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25 : Greymist
26 : Admiral Aardvark
Fe fi fo fum.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
September 17 2012 20:26 GMT
#263
On September 18 2012 05:20 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 05:14 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:09 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:01 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:01 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:56 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:52 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:36 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So, basically Zeph revealed he isn't a Slav. And that he has some super special role. Great, he'll die eventually and he'll give us more information. I don't see why we should kill him first round when we can let him use whatever ability he has, and we'll get to see if mafia kill him, or rb him or w/e. Might as well use his claiming bosnian cop to our advantage instead of wasting our turn potentially killing a cop. So if your voting on him, you should /unvote.

Also, a lot of people are being aFkz0r like me, what do you think on this issue? Greymist you are qt. :D


##unvote
##vote liquid'sheth


At least I know that bosnians are slavs, unlike turks.

@talis
Yes i do believe it was literal.


so... why'd you bring it up? it being the greymist claiming rber thing. what did you want to say about it?


I want to know other people opinions. If they think it was legit. I find it interesting that nobody brought it up.


do you think it's legit?


I think it feels out of place. Like, he didnt need to use it for the post to remain cool.

Also, gotta love this. When i have a slip that is perfectly explained by me being mason, everyone believes im scum. When sheth has a turk exclusive slip, nobody gives a shit.


mmm ok

you opened with wanting to start some discussion because you thoguht you were definitely going to be lynched. so I was trying to discuss but I don't see that topic going anywhere interesting. hypothetical question: you still end up getting lynched. What do you think ends up happening after you flip? where will the thread go from there?

Absolutely shit, because there is zero connections to be made atm. Ill try to post a list of reads pre-flip so that some people realize i am town and it was a mislynch but idk. If people are smart, they lynch sjeth and i can try to check someone .

If im lynched, im pretty sure people will try to create stupid connections between me and someone thinking he is scum and throw a possibly correct lynch(no reason for townies to buddy up, but then no reason for scum either) but at least my own allies are playing it correctly atm.


ok cool. was trying a simple trap on you but you evaded it or are actually bosnian.

anyone besides sheth that's made you raise your eyebrows suspiciously?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
September 17 2012 20:28 GMT
#264
On September 18 2012 05:23 Mattchew wrote:
someone explain to me why we arent all releasing our town "teams" that we cant talk to in any way? seems like this would just force scum into a position of either claiming a team of their own (cause they cant fake town teammates) or claiming to not have a team.



yeah I said this pregame. aside from the fact that it would ruin a lot of the fun of the game and make it really really weird and unpredictable I don't see what's wrong with it.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 17 2012 20:29 GMT
#265
On September 18 2012 05:23 Drazerk wrote:
People think it will brake the game too much Mattchew >.<

well lets break it

Iamperfection, Toadesstern, and risk.nuke are my fellow romanians.

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
September 17 2012 20:31 GMT
#266
im down with breaking the game if my team posts its ok with them
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2012 20:31 GMT
#267
Well to be honest I expected that regardless lol
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2012 20:33 GMT
#268
Same as Coag it makes no difference for mattchew's party since they are all veterans and its the most optimal way to play.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
September 17 2012 20:33 GMT
#269
The following is a bread crumb. don't worry teammates it's not intended for you.

IJRAPFKTSTISLKSITTIABF.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
September 17 2012 20:33 GMT
#270
oh the romanians came out
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 17 2012 20:34 GMT
#271
On September 18 2012 05:26 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 05:20 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:14 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:09 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:01 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:01 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:56 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:52 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:36 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So, basically Zeph revealed he isn't a Slav. And that he has some super special role. Great, he'll die eventually and he'll give us more information. I don't see why we should kill him first round when we can let him use whatever ability he has, and we'll get to see if mafia kill him, or rb him or w/e. Might as well use his claiming bosnian cop to our advantage instead of wasting our turn potentially killing a cop. So if your voting on him, you should /unvote.

Also, a lot of people are being aFkz0r like me, what do you think on this issue? Greymist you are qt. :D


##unvote
##vote liquid'sheth


At least I know that bosnians are slavs, unlike turks.

@talis
Yes i do believe it was literal.


so... why'd you bring it up? it being the greymist claiming rber thing. what did you want to say about it?


I want to know other people opinions. If they think it was legit. I find it interesting that nobody brought it up.


do you think it's legit?


I think it feels out of place. Like, he didnt need to use it for the post to remain cool.

Also, gotta love this. When i have a slip that is perfectly explained by me being mason, everyone believes im scum. When sheth has a turk exclusive slip, nobody gives a shit.


mmm ok

you opened with wanting to start some discussion because you thoguht you were definitely going to be lynched. so I was trying to discuss but I don't see that topic going anywhere interesting. hypothetical question: you still end up getting lynched. What do you think ends up happening after you flip? where will the thread go from there?

Absolutely shit, because there is zero connections to be made atm. Ill try to post a list of reads pre-flip so that some people realize i am town and it was a mislynch but idk. If people are smart, they lynch sjeth and i can try to check someone .

If im lynched, im pretty sure people will try to create stupid connections between me and someone thinking he is scum and throw a possibly correct lynch(no reason for townies to buddy up, but then no reason for scum either) but at least my own allies are playing it correctly atm.


ok cool. was trying a simple trap on you but you evaded it or are actually bosnian.

anyone besides sheth that's made you raise your eyebrows suspiciously?

Huh. I tried to think, but idk what response would've set out the trap lol.

Anyway, acrofales felt weird early. He was the one to talk about the whole slav thing, yet he was the last to see my "slip".

Also lol mattchew. Your win condition isnt to kill turks, its to outnumber other factions.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 17 2012 20:36 GMT
#272
Not saying I believe Caller was honest here:
On September 15 2012 02:52 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 02:44 talismania wrote:
I'll add a hearty REMOVE KEBAB to my earlier /in...

and a question: Can you make it a rule that you aren't allowed to claim your faction? Otherwise I see this setup just getting flat-out broken by a mass claim from the townies. Turks can't hide among the other factions so they'd be all outed immediately. The game would then be very very weird from there. I mean it would still be playable but you wouldn't have the fun of not knowing if people were defending people because they're allied with them or because they're townies with them or if they're scum with them.

why would i do something like that
i already tested this strat and it results in turk win
see: 1400-1800, European History

With 5 slav factions and turks, it seems like 4/4/4/4/4/6? Unless we've got some lopsided factions.

If turks don't have anything to dick up claiming, then ... you kind of kill the game? We get rid of scum quickly, gamble on which players/factions they NK, and then are stuck playing a game of medics vs. vigis and somehow coming up with lynches for the rest of the game.

Tbh, I'd rather just play it out. The AoE mafia was pretty barren and dead, with it being all town and alliances. Don't terribly want to suck the fun out of this one right off the bat, but if another faction or two claims then I guess we all do.
Fe fi fo fum.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
September 17 2012 20:37 GMT
#273
On September 18 2012 05:34 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 05:26 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:20 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:14 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:09 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:01 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 05:01 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:56 talismania wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:52 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:36 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So, basically Zeph revealed he isn't a Slav. And that he has some super special role. Great, he'll die eventually and he'll give us more information. I don't see why we should kill him first round when we can let him use whatever ability he has, and we'll get to see if mafia kill him, or rb him or w/e. Might as well use his claiming bosnian cop to our advantage instead of wasting our turn potentially killing a cop. So if your voting on him, you should /unvote.

Also, a lot of people are being aFkz0r like me, what do you think on this issue? Greymist you are qt. :D


##unvote
##vote liquid'sheth


At least I know that bosnians are slavs, unlike turks.

@talis
Yes i do believe it was literal.


so... why'd you bring it up? it being the greymist claiming rber thing. what did you want to say about it?


I want to know other people opinions. If they think it was legit. I find it interesting that nobody brought it up.


do you think it's legit?


I think it feels out of place. Like, he didnt need to use it for the post to remain cool.

Also, gotta love this. When i have a slip that is perfectly explained by me being mason, everyone believes im scum. When sheth has a turk exclusive slip, nobody gives a shit.


mmm ok

you opened with wanting to start some discussion because you thoguht you were definitely going to be lynched. so I was trying to discuss but I don't see that topic going anywhere interesting. hypothetical question: you still end up getting lynched. What do you think ends up happening after you flip? where will the thread go from there?

Absolutely shit, because there is zero connections to be made atm. Ill try to post a list of reads pre-flip so that some people realize i am town and it was a mislynch but idk. If people are smart, they lynch sjeth and i can try to check someone .

If im lynched, im pretty sure people will try to create stupid connections between me and someone thinking he is scum and throw a possibly correct lynch(no reason for townies to buddy up, but then no reason for scum either) but at least my own allies are playing it correctly atm.


ok cool. was trying a simple trap on you but you evaded it or are actually bosnian.

anyone besides sheth that's made you raise your eyebrows suspiciously?

Huh. I tried to think, but idk what response would've set out the trap lol.

Anyway, acrofales felt weird early. He was the one to talk about the whole slav thing, yet he was the last to see my "slip".

Also lol mattchew. Your win condition isnt to kill turks, its to outnumber other factions.


What? I dunno what you got if you really are bosnian but it seems pretty obvious to me that all the slavs have two wincons, first to outlast the turks and second to have more of their faction alive I guess when the turks all die.

the trap was to see if you were unaware the bosnians not only checked red, but also flipped red. it seemed implicit in your answer that you did know that, so you avoided it.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 17 2012 20:41 GMT
#274
The unique wincon is to outnumber other factions when the turks die. I can see people holding on a turk lynch in order to kill someone else, which explains kurumi's post.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
September 17 2012 20:46 GMT
#275
Mattchew...
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
September 17 2012 20:46 GMT
#276
On September 18 2012 05:33 Drazerk wrote:
Same as Coag it makes no difference for mattchew's party since they are all veterans and its the most optimal way to play.


this is very true. I kind of feel we should all come out since now romanians have guaranteed that all NKs will hit the slavs they need to outnumber. might as well even the playing field and at least find out who the turks are.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 17 2012 20:47 GMT
#277
On September 18 2012 05:46 risk.nuke wrote:
Mattchew...

hi there !
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18371 Posts
September 17 2012 20:48 GMT
#278
On September 18 2012 05:36 austinmcc wrote:
Not saying I believe Caller was honest here:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 02:52 Caller wrote:
On September 15 2012 02:44 talismania wrote:
I'll add a hearty REMOVE KEBAB to my earlier /in...

and a question: Can you make it a rule that you aren't allowed to claim your faction? Otherwise I see this setup just getting flat-out broken by a mass claim from the townies. Turks can't hide among the other factions so they'd be all outed immediately. The game would then be very very weird from there. I mean it would still be playable but you wouldn't have the fun of not knowing if people were defending people because they're allied with them or because they're townies with them or if they're scum with them.

why would i do something like that
i already tested this strat and it results in turk win
see: 1400-1800, European History

With 5 slav factions and turks, it seems like 4/4/4/4/4/6? Unless we've got some lopsided factions.

If turks don't have anything to dick up claiming, then ... you kind of kill the game? We get rid of scum quickly, gamble on which players/factions they NK, and then are stuck playing a game of medics vs. vigis and somehow coming up with lynches for the rest of the game.

Tbh, I'd rather just play it out. The AoE mafia was pretty barren and dead, with it being all town and alliances. Don't terribly want to suck the fun out of this one right off the bat, but if another faction or two claims then I guess we all do.

That is one reason I don't want to claim. In gambling only the bank wins. I prefer to keep my cards close to my chest. This has a second reason as well: in a Caller game there are bound to be all kinds of unusual roles. I prefer not to give people on other factions info for that reason as well.

Also, while I think you're probably right on the numbers, HRM had some pretty lopsided factions, so I wouldn't put too much stock in Caller games being balanced.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
September 17 2012 20:49 GMT
#279
I guess only problem is if there are equal number of bosnians and turks, in which case turks claim bosnians and so forth. If the numbers are unequal, then turks have a lot to risk by when and how many members they claim. hmm

yes, I think if we mass claim bosnians should go next. very interesting.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 17 2012 20:52 GMT
#280
I'm pretty sure turks outnumber us. We are four. Also I wont out my teammates if they dont want to.
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