I'm already accused of being trashy town? Really Kush? Man, you're prejudiced right off the bat. I know you can post while you're at work and stuff, but I can't post in class and I can't post when I'm tutoring people. If you'd like I can sleep-post and it'll be really bad. Sorry if my posts last game weren't up to your posting standard kush.

For the record, I might not post consistently at different times, and maybe I'll push agressively against someone, my reasons will usually be good. I'd ask that people use their own logic after reading my posts, look at the evidence provided and use your logic. Last game we had a lot of people not thinking for themselves, I'll be going to bed soon so don't expect another post from me. I'll probably post in the morning, and I think I'll post before tutoring, but I don't think I'll be posting until maybe this time tomorrow again after that.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 18 2012 18:23 GMT

#163

I like how people keep saying they need to hear more form me when I basically said my posting schedule for today, kind of cracks me up and makes me wonder if people are actually reading others posts, or just skimming them.

So, the first thing I'd like to bring up is that Killingtime said that he doesn't think FoS is good on day one.
So killingtime, how would you get information d1? Would you just lurk in the shadows and look for someone slip up on their own without bring pressured? FOS forces someone to be pressured into giving an answer, the same as voting for someone. If you don't FOS or vote for people oN D!, you're not doing anything to advance town's agenda. So basically what I'm getting at is:

##FOS Killingtime

Hey diude, what're your top 2 scum picks? Who are your top two town reads? Do you have anyone you'd like to look at more?

As far as looking at Debears goes, I think it's a dead end, I'd definitely like to see his response, but I don't think your reasoning was very good kush, you yourself have show how saying something would look from each perspecting, which is exactly what Debears was doing. IN addition, it's an examination of motives, which is important, everyone has a motive.

I don't really have any questions or other comments, I'll let you know if I do. If I missed some questions aimed at me, let me know, I wish there was a better way to look at a filter of posts that mention me, you know?

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 18 2012 18:27 GMT

#165

Hey bro, I asked him some questions, lets let him answer before we form any opinions. IMO it seems that whenever someone defends osmeone before they answer questions relating to an FOS, it gives them some security and takes the pressure off considerably. Without pressure there's no point in doing an FOS.

TBH I think it's kind of funky that you're defending people kush, lets be real here, this is about finding mafia, not making friends

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 18 2012 18:32 GMT

#171

kush bro, it's like you didn't even read my previous post! Are you so set up in defending your mafia friend here that you're willing to look scummy yourself? I took it to mean that there's nothing to be gotten by questioning people, and that the only way to get answers is to vote, and while voting forces a dfense, it doesn't necessarily force someone into giving information, into letting people read them. Voting puts a bit of a different type of pressure on someone than just having a FOS, an FOS isn't necessarily a defense.

This is coming from when I've played IRL mafia, to be frank. When you want to force a defense, you call for a formal, which would be like a vote without actually voting, but when you want to get information you just ask them questions in an imperative way, using FOS increases the imperative nature of the questions.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 18 2012 19:50 GMT

#182

Hey kush, little problem with your scum team, I never defended Thrawn, and I said that I'd like to see what debears replies with, not that he was absolved, just that your reasoning seemed a little sketchy which lead me to believe that for now it was a dead end. I don't (think) either of them have explicitly defended me, I could be wrong though, I didn't check filters since I'm at work right now.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 02:55 GMT

#240

look at my filter, other than saying "I don't think we don't have anything definite yet, lets look at his answers though" I speak nothing about debears or thrawn, no defense. Your scum trio falls apart with me. going to bed, will have more constructive things after sleep.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 20:39 GMT

#363

Super busy today, read most the posts, willing to ##VOTE Sherrant I'll try to post more tonighnt

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 20:54 GMT

#368

It's scummy to reply on my phone and have a busy day? it takes me forever to write a post. sorry I have a life, some days are like that.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 22:27 GMT

#423

Ok, I'm home now.

When I decided to vote sherrant I honestly was just bandwagoning, I couldn't find anyone with a good read other than the lurkers.

For the moment, I'd much rather vote cubu, he doesn't have anything to add and if he does flip mason it confirms our other mason. I was on my phone earlier so I had no way to write a longer more descriptive post. I'm going to go through some filters during night and see if I can come up with some suspicions to start D2 with, presuming I make it through the night.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 22:28 GMT

#425

Hey SDM, voting without explanation, apparently that's scummy right? Care to give one? I mean, that's why you're voting for me right?

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 22:31 GMT

#428

Wow? that post didn't have enough content for you? There's like half an hour before the deadline right? It takes me 2-3 hours to do a good filter readthrough, sorry I can't do that. You seem to be fighting pretty hard for someone who's confirmed town. Care to be more defensive? It doesn't make you look suspicious at all bro.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 22:31 GMT

#430

What? The accusations had already started from kush, go back and read kush's post before my post thrawn.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 22:33 GMT

#431

Thrawn, you wanted to vote cubu because he's a lurker and would prove sharrant is town if he did flip mason, I think that's correct thinkings since cubu certainly isn't helping anyone right now, AND we can't look at his posts and compare them to something in the future if he's suddenly active.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 22:34 GMT

#433

I said most, you have some really good reading comprehension and memoryh sharrant, are you sure you're useful to the town?

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 22:37 GMT

#438

If there's been a change in my meta, think of the fact that last game I was /medic/ not vanilla town. I'm vanilla town this game. Wouldn't you be more apologetic if you had a role, because you're trying to fade into the background? Take into account all the factors here. I only saw your post about killingtime, which has nothing to do with me. This is why I need to read everyone's filter before I give more suspicions.

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 22:40 GMT

#439

It's an observation, sharrant, not a personal attack, you either aren't very good at reading and remembering, OR you're deliberately saying things to get me lynched. I'm saying that I'd like to confirm that you're a mason by lynching cubu, that's helping you, I'm not sure why you're trying to get me lynched if I want to help you.

##UNVOTE
#VOTE CUBU

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 22:43 GMT

#441

Oh, for some reason I thought the day ended at 7pm my time. BST is GMT+2 right?

drazak

United States479 Posts

September 19 2012 23:19 GMT

#454

Obviously, I have many many many hours to devote to things related to mafia, the posts say 1-2 hours a day, I give more like 3-4,and obviously if I had time to read through filters and be less circumspect I would. I have a family life and other things going on, so I can't before deadline. Therefore I'm left with one option which is to say I will post about it D2 morning. I'm willing to look at Killing if other people have stopped on the whole idea of killing a lurker to prove a town. TBH killing a lurker to prove a town is one of the best things that can happen D1, as we have a town to work with D2. That's just my thought on the matter, I haven't really looked at killingtime, and I don't know what his IRL situation is at the moment, so going to bed might be because he has to be up in 4 hours already, staying up another 2-3 would be crazy.