your case against remedy is just lack of scumhunting right? I think its true that he's all accusation and no argumentation. I want to look onto that more, then ask him to expand on his reasoning for some of.his accusations and see what he comes up with.
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your case against remedy is just lack of scumhunting right? I think its true that he's all accusation and no argumentation. I want to look onto that more, then ask him to expand on his reasoning for some of.his accusations and see what he comes up with. | ||
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1 Remedy's useless vote parked on me d1. Bad town yes, scum no. I don't see the scum motivation behind it, especially since both our bandwagons were town. 2 His comment on my drazak, thrawn, debears scumteam idea. The idea itself was worth nothing.. just something like hmmm here's something to ponder. His comment was similar. It's not like he based any cases on the scumteam idea. Well he doesn't make cases really at all. But yeah I don't consider his comment regarding that scumteam a big tell. | ||
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He gives an excuse for lurking during the next few days, but he also allows himself the possibility of posting (phone posts). ##FOS stutters | ||
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A lot of the cases he has been trying to bandwagon just make no sense to me, and I know other people feel the same. It's like he finds any instance of bad play and tries to turn it into a bandwagon. Look at these two quotes: This regarding my case against him. You either haven't grasped the logic of a lot of my cases (specifically the remedy which till now you'e ignored my request for you to give a read on him) or you're scum. (The only case I didn't understand was the atreides one. Because it was convoluted as fuck.) Are you still high or are you scum? These two quotes, the "or are you scum" quotes I would expect from an aggressive newb, but thrawn's meta is none of those things. @thrawn what is the purpose of these questions? Are they jokes or what? Here is my original case against him with his reply then my reply to his reply. The only feedback I got was from jacob who accused me because I accused thrawn. He didn't even mention the case itself. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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I haven't come into the thread baked saying random shit today.... and I'm not the only one who thinks your insistence on rethos' guilt is crazy. | ||
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I do agree with a lot of your post though. He says rethos follows the bad townie mold, but so does remedy in almost exactly the same way. I think their bad scum hunting is pretty much a null tell on both of them though. It makes sense that a first time player would be bad at scum hunting. He does dismiss the case against rethos, and just basically says well he looked town before that part, then he looked wtf. MOVING ON. I don't know exactly why dandel doesn't think it's worth his time to defend himself. Maybe he feels like his opinion doesn't hold much value on the matter because it's obviously biased. But I also see his point of view that we were in an argument where the same things were being repeated again and again and he didn't think it was productive. Not sure about the vig shot. Is it a bad strategy to save town a lynch by killing a lurker? I haven't really thought but i think it could be a good idea. What if the vig waits till the end to use it but he is killed then it goes to waste? I don't think mentioning that is scummy. | ||
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I am not dead set in this. However, I'm not fucking voting for dandel. ##vote stutters | ||
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Also I don't want to vote for you because I suspect you but I still think there's a good chance you might be town and to lose a town thrawn at this point would be really bad. I want to be more sure of your alignment before I vote for you. | ||
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On September 22 2012 11:02 JacobStrangelove wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok I woke, up. On September 22 2012 00:43 kushm4sta wrote: /Flame on + Show Spoiler + We were town buds last game but this game I don't respect you at all. You are mostly afk basically for the first day. You make posts but they have a sum total of 0 content. You circumlocute, you say some obvious shit. The only thing that is keeping me from suspecting you is the fact that you also made no sense last game. I don't know maybe you should stop playing for a while until you learn the english language? Ouch... you really do take OMGUS to a new level. I am going to wait a minute so I don’t do the same. Yes we were town buddies last game, this is part of the reason I thought you were just acting like your normal self at the start. But you are acting like your normal self + annoyed and angry. You mentioned a test before did it really go that badly? Yes I was mostly afk by my standards, but my standards were still posting more than most people while busy with assignments. Why would I try to post as much as I can? If I were mafia I would have remained low key. Also part of the reason I messed up was because I am committed to this game. Even when I was completely exhausted(and frustrated) I make several posts because I wanted to be in this game (although I was tired to the point where I was miss reading stuff) That tired as mafia I would never post in this thread it would be insane. I am going to ignore the part about making no sense last game and needing to learn English as that will only get me angry. My point is you seem to be far more emotional and frustrated without reason... Thrawn might be scum, but the fact is you were pushing on someone who also had the potential to be the best poster (with our two confirmed town afk) However incase you are town it would be detrimental to lose you (same with thrawn) so I will move onto the lurkers. I have to admit Thawns logic isn’t completely easy to follow sometimes and his case on atreides did seem odd. But I will update my thoughts on the Daniel Ion case Rethos was scummy before he lied scummier after lying and almost impossible to read after he is gone... One thing I will say is Thrawn and kush are going in circles... Daniel points this out however at the same time he tries to get the focus off that onto his remedy case. On September 22 2012 06:15 Dandel Ion wrote: This isn't constructive. Talk about something else pls. Like my Remedy case. I like my Remedy case. Who else likes my Remedy case? Who doesn't like my Remedy case? Pls include reasons. While I will talk about this it is just something that stood out. I could have confirmation bias though. Also while with reason he goes on Remedy that was also the biggest bandwagon before he was underfire. However onto remedy. Yes he sheeps onto bad plans especially ones that would get multiple town killed. He also wasn’t around in a crucial time and comes in 9 min late(I am paraphrasing some of what thrawn wrote) However one hole I found in his case so far is ________________________________________ On September 21 2012 09:42 RemedySC wrote: Okay, I don't think mafia got lucky in killing a blue. Looks like other than the Sharrant read, Sonic's biggest read was Atreides-, Debears, and Killing. All three have had good arguments made against them. Possibly they they thought Sonic might have more info. ________________________________________ Remedy this post sets off my scum alarms. I son't have any evidence (and neither do you) why mafia would have killed sonic other than that he was really townish and I don't think anyone suspected him. So when you start talking about how they might have killed him because of his reads it just makes me think there's some manipulation going on behind his nightkill and your post. Now you seemed to miss this On September 21 2012 09:44 RemedySC wrote: EBWOP - I mean I think Mafia got lucky that Sonic was a blue. Still suspicious but not as suspicious, also here On September 21 2012 13:01 RemedySC wrote: You know, I could see sonic role blocking you. His power also allows him to save someone, if his strongest town read was you, then he would use it on you. He could have been trying to make thrawn look less like town, because if mafia did block him (and he didn’t lie about it) then thrawn is more likely to be town. On September 21 2012 14:43 RemedySC wrote: Just re-read this post and want to address it. I acknowledged an idea, that is all. Nothing ever came of it afterwards. He draws attention to an idea but nothing happens with it (because no town jumps on?) In other words I do think regent looks scummy. So does now Daniel ion though. Who looks worse? Rethos made a very impressive slip though, but should we give Daniel the time for him to convince him he is town? However now I move onto stutters. Twice consistently he comes in after someone calls him out. Three posts in what 48 hours? I have posted cases about him in the past for not lurking when he said he had time ect… and he sheeps onto drazak along with most people though. It’s a pity it’s harder to find stuff with him because he has lurked so much. I know there is something else I was going to say but I forgot… On September 22 2012 04:00 thrawn2112 wrote: Lol in my first mafia game as town I got really baked and then I lurked in the thread taking notes and making theories. I took a nap, woke up and proceeded to make the mother of all scummy-sounding posting sprees. So if you're town then my advice is: don't play this game high, don't even read the thread. So you believe the boredom claim no matter if he is town or scum right? Is there a reason for you doubting he's scum or is it just a gut feeling? Yeah don’t get baked, don’t work on 4 hours sleep, and don’t get drunk. *goes to get drunk* ![]() I said it before and I will say it again. The measure of a lurker is not his post count, it's not his word count. It's matter of contribution to the scumhunt. Jacob is an active lurker, and that reeks of scum. Can anyone even remember a stance jacob has taken? Remedy, killing, stutters, atreides, I can remember something about all of them without even looking at their filter. Jacob has been all about the bandwagon, and the half hearted accusations. This is the second post against me.. where is the vote? Not even a fucking FOS. Why would I try to post as much as I can? If I were mafia I would have remained low key. Also part of the reason I messed up was because I am committed to this game. Even when I was completely exhausted(and frustrated) I make several posts because I wanted to be in this game (although I was tired to the point where I was miss reading stuff) That tired as mafia I would never post in this thread it would be insane. No one is even accusing you, yet you feel the need to defend yourself. Your defense of yourself for no reason paraphrased: you missed things in the thread because you were tired, and this proves you aren't mafia because mafia would never post when they are tired. That would be "INSANE." Not really. Especially if they weren't under any town pressure like you. And you saying it would be insane just seems like you are exaggerating an untrue argument to make yourself look more town. However incase you are town it would be detrimental to lose you (same with thrawn) so I will move onto the lurkers. @jacob So according to this statement, we shouldn't be scumhunting active people? In the next part of the post he casts suspicion on dandel for trying to get people to focus on remedy. But the suspicion is so soooo slight. Read the part where he suspects dandel for shifting focus to remedy. His suspicion has the force of a feather. Then he suspects remedy, yes the same remedy he chides dandel for investigating. In other words I do think regent looks scummy. So does now Daniel ion though. Who looks worse? Rethos made a very impressive slip though, but should we give Daniel the time for him to convince him he is town? However now I move onto stutters. Here is my jacob impersonation: This guys kinda scummy, so is this guy. Who is scummier? Should we let them convince us who is scummier? Well this well is dry time to move on. So far he has made no definitive statements, and he's already moved on to his 4th suspicion, stutters. And here he reiterates the scumminess of stutters afk timings. To accuse stutters right now makes sense, but it is also safe as fuck. Everyone is suspicious of stutters. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have 1 game experience with jacob, and he can be hard to understand. But this is the same jacob as in last game. I don't know who obsed last game but killing you were there till the end. Do you concur? | ||
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Why is it a sure thing that 1 scum voted for drazak? How sure are we about the sharrant mason claim actually? I know before I said blah blah 100% why are we even talking about it, but recently i've been thinking. I only thought it was very unlikely they were scum because of the risk. Then their towniness was confirmed by the chat log timestamps. Does it actually confirm them because I pretty much just saw the timestamps and took other people's word for it without even looking at them. | ||
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Why are you focusing on that phrase I said like 2 days ago and how would it make me scum? To all the other thrawn suspectors, and it seems like there are more now, why would scum thrawn go through the trouble of doing the timestamp analysis? No one likes my case against Jacob??? i thought it was really good wtf | ||
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There is always at least 1 scum voting for the bandwagon. Bandwagon 2-6 one of those are usually scum. That leaves me thrawn and stutter. I know im town. At the moment I think thrawn is probably town. No one is biting on my jacob case. Screw you guys because I think he is scummy as fuck. So I'm changing my vote for stutters. Mostly I want to make him the main bandwagon so we can avoid this retarded dandel lynch. ##unvote ##vote stutters | ||
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