EPTIt's not like I have a townread on you or anything, debears was just worse (way way worse, esp- combined with Atreides)
I'd have liked to lynch debears, but if it ain't gonna happen, it ain't gonna happen.
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Dandel Ion
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It's not like I have a townread on you or anything, debears was just worse (way way worse, esp- combined with Atreides) I'd have liked to lynch debears, but if it ain't gonna happen, it ain't gonna happen. | ||
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Maybe he actually is... The scum is probably just Killing tho. | ||
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##unvote ##vote debears | ||
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On September 26 2012 08:53 thrawn2112 wrote: if there's a roleblocker and I get lynched then please don't roleblock dandel What? | ||
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No power-roles left, and the RB is scum. | ||
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Whatevs | ||
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On September 26 2012 08:57 thrawn2112 wrote: no i'm not. where do you read this stuff... there weren't any potential set ups listed in the op I sometimes use logic. | ||
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Also, I did read up on setups in this mafia wiki thing. | ||
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On September 26 2012 08:58 thrawn2112 wrote: so what jacob? You should have learned from Remedy, because the same applies to you: do that shit not 10 minutes before flip. Try 20 minutes. | ||
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On September 26 2012 09:25 KillingTime wrote: ... For reference my checks were green on debears n1 (framed presumably) and Dandel. So that 2 of Kush/Jacob/Thrawn were scum was obvious. - but I was just too busy too really work out the right answer Why did you not claim? | ||
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On September 26 2012 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote: I dedicate this game to lurkers. On September 26 2012 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote: I dedicate this game to lurkers. On September 26 2012 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote: I dedicate this game to lurkers. | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Thrawn was not scum, but I can call it a non-town read. (btw scumbag thrawn, y u no claim SK) Kush I had a townread on under the assumption he had a brain, but it seems I was wrong. My bad really, I should've known better from our last game... I guess I just got carried away with my associations. | ||
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On September 26 2012 10:07 marvellosity wrote: Going association-crazy is one of the biggest weaknesses of newbie townies. Find one sure-fire scum and then work out any connections with him after he flips. See, the problem was, I was sure debears was scum, but I was also sure thrawn was scum (both with ~equal scumminess), but at the same time, that they couldn't be on the same scumteam. So I just got confused. | ||
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Empty, empty, comfort €: Shit, I can edit now! | ||
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On September 26 2012 12:59 thrawn2112 wrote: lol hapa, by the time I made that case, all town thought I was scum. and the basis of my case was that I'm town so....... dandel lon when I claimed vig did you still think I was sk? Yes, I was pretty sure you were. But it didn't matter, we needed a KP role to still win this, or for people to switch to debears. Both would've been fine. Unfortunately, Killing trusts his DT check blindly, and the rest of town was not even there... On September 26 2012 16:29 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: I think this is pretty spot on. I almost JK you n1. You were townie to me, so good job on that. I still think JK anyone except for Sharrant would be pretty bad. At first I thought Dandel made a decent point for JK thrawn, but now I'm pretty decided it was a weak argument. Still not decided on who the best n1 NK was from scum's perspective. I was pretty sure they'd kill thrawn, Sharrant or me though. Hm, I said that before I knew Sharrant was JK'd, when thrawn was the only one that claimed. But I still think that usually, it would be bad play to JK a mason in that situation. I guess it didn't matter since you can't JK yourself, but I think my logic is solid: Scum won't kill just 1/2 of the masons if there is still a JK/medic in the game. He will camp the confirmed town, forcing scum to shoot relatively blindly for the JK/medic instead of the confirmed town, all the while leaving a confirmed town in the game. Which would usually spell disaster for the scumteam, but the confirmed town this game was Sharky, so in the end, I guess it really didn't matter. But there was no real way for you to know sharky would be useless. I think your decision was wrong. It practically did not matter, because scum shot you (bad luck there), but it COULD have mattered and I stand by my opinion that you did not play your nightaction as well as you could have. Eh, as I said, not really applicable in THIS very game, but remember for the next time you roll JK  | ||
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On September 26 2012 20:13 marvellosity wrote: Thanks go to my co-hosts, and to Hapahauli for providing a large chunk of analysis there, good job. Lots of comments I could make, but for now I disagree strongly with this: I thought his Night 1 JK was absolutely the right action. What happens if mafia actually DO hit Sharrant, and you just let them kill the only useful confirmed townie? There are several threads of this through my own games that I've played here. My first and most 'ouch' memory was from Magic Mini - I had almost singlehandedly pushed through a scum lynch day 2, and then I called out 2 of the remaining 3 scum during Night 2. I was the only viable protection target. Except for the doctor thought "they'll never hit him knowing I'll protect him" and protected some random townie. Mafia took the chance shooting me at night, and town ended up losing the game. Basically protect your assets. Which SDM did. Edit: just while I'm thinking about it, there was also quite a bit of totally incorrect setup speculation going on, about numbers of mafia, SK role, number of blues etc. It seemed to hurt town at some stages because there were incorrect assumptions. Never assume about the setup unless you know for sure. It was okay in THIS game, because there were no townier townies. I'm saying usually scum would avoid hitting just one of the masons (unless they have 2 KP to kill both or something), and if both masons are even approx. equally useful, there's no knowing which one will get hit. I'd have thought that's pretty logical, but apparantly not... | ||
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