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On September 22 2012 10:12 debears wrote:Now for the serious part. Your play has come off weird at the start. Show nested quote + Dandel Ion Austria. September 21 2012 22:57. Posts 1813 PM Profile Quote #
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Yeah, I know rethos looked a bit scummy, but I do think that prior to the whole "I don't give a shit h4h4h4h4"-debacle, he was 100% following the bad-newbie-town semi-lurker path. What part of the debacle are you talking about? Site a specific post please so I know where your reference post begins.
I mean the part where he stops being just bad, and starts being a retard.
Open his filter and start with this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548¤tpage=33#641
Shouldn't be too hard to find.
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Also, some LOGIC about the roleblock and nightkill to start things off:
On September 21 2012 13:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
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If the reasoning behind that is that he is trying to save his strongest town read then it would have gone to either of the 2 confirmed masons. Anyway there are tons of possible explanations of the roleblock and no reason to believe any of more than any other so I'd rather not speculate about it.
SDM probably roleblocked you.
In fact, IF you have been roleblocked, it was SDM.
Reasoning: It was redundant for him to roleblock one of the masons.
You all treat the masons as confirmed town, but they really are not. As long as none of them flip, there will remain some doubt.
And it could possibly surface at a very bad time for town. It would be incredibly stupid for scum to shoot one mason, and leave the other in the game. During Night 1, that is.
I wouldn't exactly call it stupid. Having 2 masons who can privately communicate in the game are more powerful than you think. For instance, although Sharky is not posting much, it is possible him and Sharant are building up a huge case on their own. That is also most likely why SDM would have protected them if he did.
Now the thing is, scum got lucky and hit the jailkeeper, which means they could possibly kill Sharrant and Sharky during the next 2 nightphases.
In another post Show nested quote +I'd also be down for lynching Stutters, Killing or Atreides, but all of them are mostly policy about lurking/non-conributing, and less about actual scumreads.
I do think, however, that getting rid of lurkers one way or the other is absolutely necessary looking towards MYLO/LYLO. If there's only 1 or 2 lurkers, that could be easily solved with a vig shot, but we have 3 (4 counting the late rethos), and possibly no Vig at all. Which sucks. I absolutely hate when people mention vig shots, especially when it comes to lurkers early game. Xatalos did last game and he ended up a mafia. When I was reading over the game, Xatalos' post screamed out mafia, and yours here is similar. It gives me the feeling that you are saying "I'm mafia. Please shot 'X' lurker so that I don't have to worry about you mr. vigilante. We can lynch the lurkers. Mafia in the mid and late game, when they are active, can be deadly and sometimes can't be lynched.
So a bad scum I don't know in a newbie game I didn't play in said something about Vigs during the game.
Now clearly, the most logical thing for you to do is to jump on me (the "easy target") with a horrible association case that you base off a random guy?
Oh wow, if you really think that's scumhunting, then good luck.
Then, about remedy Show nested quote +Now, I don’t know if his post between that was his “better argument”, but it doesn’t look like it to me
(For reference:+ Show Spoiler +)
He keeps promising posts/activity, but you should get what I'm saying by now. Just read through his filter, it's not a long read.
But that’s just side notes. The real issue I have with him is how he “scumhunts”.
He just quotes shit and then slaps a one/twoliner or some random questions onto it. The funny thing is that Rethos did that same thing throughout d1 when I called him out for it. I am assuming you at the least read through your previous identity's filter to know what he said. If not, please look at my argument against him.
What are you trying to say here, hmm?
That rethos behaved just as Remedy did, but for some reason you think Remedy is town(?) and rethos is scum, or what?
It doesn't make sense for you to use this argument, because if you were honest about it, you should have had a town read on rethos too.
Double standard much?
Please elaborate on why you think Remedy is town, and rethos scum. I'm listening.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 19 2012 14:05 debears wrote:Show nested quote + Sharrant Canada. September 19 2012 12:15. Posts 15 PM Profile Quote #
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@Atreides
That was me that mentioned the possibility of them both being masons.
@Kush I agree with you about lurkers at this time. I'm ready to bury the hatchet on both debears and thrawn in order to get rid of one of our hard lurkers. I will be able to post an argument on you and Kush tomorrow, most likely in the morning. In the lurkers, there is one that still has my attention, Rethos. Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 06:33 rethos wrote:
@thrawn2112 since the whole debears affair, your conflict with SDM seemed to have been left in the air. What is your current read about SDM? Do you have any other reads that the town might want to know about? This was his last post. Although he is posting, his posts are not beneficial. Most of the latest ones contain questions. He hasn't directed accusations at anyone. Show nested quote +Why, if he is town, is he trying to convince people he is right? What does that do? How does that help? Is it just bad town play? This is just a sample of what he does. Three questions in a row that he did not post an answer for himself.
Most of his other posts follow a similar format. He just directs the question at someone. I understand the difference in time zones affecting the amount of posts. However, the quality is poor. He isn't taking a stand on anything. Looks like he is trying to look active without provoking anyone. Then, this post + Show Spoiler +On September 22 2012 03:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
Also, please don't just vote me and go brainafk.
Even if I did replace a scum (which I did not blablabla), there's still more scum in this and just going "yep lynch this guy, see you in two days" will not help.
Just saying.
If you want to lynch rethos (aka me), go on ahead, but don't be idiots about it. That's all I will say about the whole rethos matter. I don't like how you are just dismissing the case against Rethos/you. There are clear scumtells in his writing that we can't ignore.
Well guess what, I don't like it either.
But what can I do?
I have no fucking idea what he was thinking or doing. I couldn't even ask him, or talk to him.
So how the fuck should I defend accusations that have nothing to do with me, that I would find scummy myself, and where I have no idea why he did what he did?
Protip: I can't do shit
Which is why I want town to talk about something else. But if you want to call it "sweeping under the rug" and keep trapling on a dead guy with no way to defend himself, go on ahead.
And it's funny you bold a little part of my sentence and ignore the stuff written in the rest of it.
I never told anyone they can't vote for me (like anyone would listen), I only want you to TALK about something different.
Even if I was scum, there'd be two more.
And when I flip green, you see that you're gonna have to find three more.
So I suggest(ed) looking into that. But it seems you are not interested. Why not?
You mention sharky lurking hard in this post (and later ones also), although right before you state that you are 99% sure he is town. Although he may be lurking, he may be privately working with sharrant to catch up. Also, why should we put pressure on a (99% according to you) townie for the sake of making him post? We are pressuring people to get information and correct reads.
Oh wow, way to not read my filter!! Good job!
I was already asked (kinda) about this and answered it. It's true, I'm even linking it, otherwise you might not find it in my massive one-page filter! Here! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548¤tpage=38#749
I am putting pressure on him in a way, yes.
Because he's being SUPER useless while being "confirmed" town. And that makes me mad. Cause if he keeps that up when Sharrant gets shot (and Sharrant WILL get shot soon, since he's the only mason that actually does ANYTHING), it ain't gonna be pretty.
Yet again, same point I've shown from previous posts. You have zoomed in on Remedy as desperation to take the pressure off yourself. You cannot just dismiss the case against rethos/you. You came into the game with immense pressure on you and your response is sweep it under the rug. Rethos had a short filter. Most of the case against him was made after the lynch, which you definitely should have read first thing. You are also making weird statements back and forth on the masons, which are pretty clear by now. Go find the couple of hours before the lynch if you must read it in depth. And finally, the vig shot post...ew.
At this point, you have added to the scumminess of rethos in my eyes
Oh, I know a case exists. But I want you to meditate, find your inner center, and tell me how I should treat the case instead.
And stop being hypocritical about me not reading or whatever - I read the thread, I read all the filters. But you yourself seem to have conveniently skipped over some of my posts (in one case even over the sentence you were quoting from), just to rehash some concerns that have already been answered.
You even mention the mason thing, which was a stupid misunderstanding that thrawn STILL pointed out AFTER I ALREADY explained it without anyone even asking. Okay, okay, maybe a mistake by him (though scum thrawn is looking more likely by the minute), but WHY do you feel the need to bring that up again?
This sentence alone makes me think you're just trying to appear like you're "scumhunting", when you actually don't*. So you call my post "weird" to discredit me.
*This is not just about this one sentence, you whole "case" is rehashed garbage you could've answered yourself if you actually read through the thread/my filter to really scumhunt, instead of picking a few posts out of context, ingoring the explainations I already gave, etc.
Your only original contribution is the assosiation "case" with Xathalos. And that is so fucking horrible it gives me the worst nightmares (good thing I just woke up)
But at least I can give you the good news! Remedy is no longer my top scumread! It's you! You win! Yaaaaay!
##vote debears
Disclaimer: I'd still be up for lynching remedy/stutters/insert-lurker-here too.
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Why is everyone* so focused on SK?
It's not even sure there is one (in fact, it's more likely there is not), and even if there is, finding him is almost the same as scumhunting, he just has no teammates to either give him away or protect him.
You can worry about the SK when people keep dying and you already got 2 scum, but the way this game is going, you're not gonna have even a single scum anytime soon.
Pls go back to looking for scum, instead of speculating about SK.
Thx.
*slight exaggeration
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On September 23 2012 00:15 RemedySC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 00:42 RemedySC wrote:
That is assuming Thrawn is town. If he was mafia, a town would roleblock him so he couldn't perform a night action.
Why are you defending him with bad logic? Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 01:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Disclaimer: I am not done with reading the thread and respective filters
Right now, I have deep suspicions of Remedy. No sure if they will stand, but I think they may.
I'd also be down for lynching Stutters, Killing or Atreides, but all of them are mostly policy about lurking/non-conributing, and less about actual scumreads.
I do think, however, that getting rid of lurkers one way or the other is absolutely necessary looking towards MYLO/LYLO. If there's only 1 or 2 lurkers, that could be easily solved with a vig shot, but we have 3 (4 counting the late rethos), and possibly no Vig at all. Which sucks.
I need to look more into debears, so I'd like to withhold judgement for now, but I'll bring him up if I see something suspicious.
Sorry to be "that guy", but I'll come back to this later. Dandel, you posted this 28 minutes after I called you out for bad logic. Previous to this you only mentioned me because there was a mistake in someone calling me Regent. You never responded to my question and are instead trying to get the attention off yourself. Did I hit a nerve? You seem to really want me gone now. My posts may be shitty and lack content, but i have always been pro-town. I could have easily gone after drazak or Cubu Day 1, but instead I refused to vote on Cubu, and I didn't know what to think on the Drazak situation. That is why I didn't post with 45 minutes remaining day 1. I didn't think i could say anything that would make a difference when Lynch time was so close.
What? lol
Are you trying to make this personal?
If so, you're not doing a good job of it.
I got suspicious of you when I saw how distracting and disruptive you were in the beginning, without contributing. That was before you made your weird posts where you clearly didn't (want to) understand what was actually going on.
Were you trying to hit a nerve? Cause you didn't. Maybe you're frustrated because of that now?
And "shitty" and "no-content" is not pro-town, no matter what you tell yourself.
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Eh, if that's going to be the wagon, so be it.
##unvote
##vote stutters
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wtf
I've said multiple times that I was willing to lynch Stutters too, what more do you need?
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On September 23 2012 01:21 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 00:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
Eh, if that's going to be the wagon, so be it.
##unvote
##vote stutters Who would you rather the wagon be? I see you come into the thread with a scumread that other people thought was scummy at the time, (most especially myself) debears attacks you and you immediately go after him even to the point of voting for him. Then two people go for stutters and it's time to change your vote to stutters? Is debears still your top read? Don't you even want to try to see if you can push your case?
Yes, I'd rather have debears as a wagon.
But I understand that nobody will latch onto any of my wagons currently.
Last time I pushed a case of mine, debears called me scum for it.
Now now, I DO think that debears is scum, but I don't see a better fate for any of my cases as long as I live.
My plan right now is to set it up so that you will look back at my cases after I flip green and go all "oh he was green maybe I should actually read what he writes instead of jumping to stupid conclusions first"
So I currently hope that you won't just ignore my posts after I get lynched, and look at the people I make cases on. That's kind of a far-fetched assuption, given that town doesn't seem to give a shit about winning, but I care about meeting my wincon, so I'm going to do my best to meet my wincon.
"You" meaning all of town, not thrawn specifically.
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On September 23 2012 01:21 debears wrote:@Dandel + Show Spoiler + Dandel Ion Austria. September 22 2012 20:00. Posts 1815 PM Profile Quote # filter On September 22 2012 10:12 debears wrote: Now for the serious part. Your play has come off weird at the start. Show nested quote + What part of the debacle are you talking about? Site a specific post please so I know where your reference post begins. I mean the part where he stops being just bad, and starts being a retard. Open his filter and start with this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548¤tpage=33#641Shouldn't be too hard to find. Alright. Thanks for the clarification. It seems to me that, in that post that you are claiming the start of his "I don't give a shit" parade, he did still care. He made a lot of short posts before that, and then comes in with a longer post when we suddenly say that we should focus on lurkers. + Show Spoiler +So a bad scum I don't know in a newbie game I didn't play in said something about Vigs during the game.
Now clearly, the most logical thing for you to do is to jump on me (the "easy target") with a horrible association case that you base off a random guy?
Oh wow, if you really think that's scumhunting, then good luck. You come into a game past the d1 lynch, have to catch up on a lot of posts, then have a good enough read of the situation to call out who we should vig shot? It's not an association case. It's a read that I have incorporated into my play based on my observations from last game. In fact, most of my reads are based off of other games, guides, and such. Wouldn't that be logical instead of saying, oh it happened last game, it won't happen again. I bring up Xatalos to remind the other guys who did play last game of it. + Show Spoiler +What are you trying to say here, hmm?
That rethos behaved just as Remedy did, but for some reason you think Remedy is town(?) and rethos is scum, or what?
It doesn't make sense for you to use this argument, because if you were honest about it, you should have had a town read on rethos too.
Double standard much?
Lol. Blatant lie. I have NEVER said remedy is town. I have put little focus on him, seeing as thrawn and others are looking into him. Instead, I have seen you and Atreides saying stuff that calls immediate attention. I made the same argument against killing. + Show Spoiler +On September 21 2012 06:43 debears wrote:This is really annoying....There are so many questions right now and a bunch of lurkers/semi-lurkers not around to answer. @KillingTime + Show Spoiler +On September 21 2012 04:11 KillingTime wrote:
I have had an awful irl afternoon so I haven't had a chance to read much in detail in this thread except the mason confirms.
ofc that means Sharrant is effectivley a confirmed towny (and the new guy too I guess). Scumhunting I want/need to look closely tonight/tomorrow at debears's posting from before and after flip and see if my scumread on him still holds.RemedySC's
play has also been super lurky from what I can see and has dropped off the radar. His play reminds me of imcasey in the last game, making a single weak case and then shutting up. Hopefully we don't lose two players overnight. You have dropped off the radar other than 1 post after night saying that you hope we don't lost anyone. Also, the only "cases" you have made are against cubu and me. Cubu's case wasn't anything new. He was lurking hardcore. Not much to add. Then, in your case against me, you gave weak reasons, voted for me with weak reasons, and even said this: Show nested quote +As
far as "My" case (not really "my" case - but my vote) on Debears goes I still prefer him slightly over sharrant. So you haven't actually made a case against me. And the one against Cubu had nothing to explain behind it. Do you have a genuine read to contribute to us? I am looking into remedy. And I happened to find you on him along with jacob and thrawn. Still, your post came before thrawn sent out his 2 larger ones with the case against remedy. However, that does not excuse your justification for your suspicion Same reasoning as I made against you. So why are you putting words in my mouth? Here's a quote on earlier. Show nested quote + debears United States. September 22 2012 09:10. Posts 35 PM Profile Quote Edit #
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It's not that I don't acknowledge that stutters has been lurking. It's just that its useless to spread my focus on you, Remedy, Rethos, KillingTime, and Stutters. I picked the two most scummy looking: you and Atreides. And now I am examining you in closer detail. Just beca.use you don't say someone is scum doesn't mean you don't have a scum read on them. Show nested quote +
And it's funny you bold a little part of my sentence and ignore the stuff written in the rest of it.
I never told anyone they can't vote for me (like anyone would listen), I only want you to TALK about something different.
Even if I was scum, there'd be two more.
And when I flip green, you see that you're gonna have to find three more.
So I suggest(ed) looking into that. But it seems you are not interested. Why not?
Yet, again. I have talked about others. I've talked about KillingTime, although he is off my radar atm, and Atreides besides you. Yet you say I am not looking into possible scum and I'm not talking about something different. Another lie. See a trend in this? Show nested quote +Oh wow, way to not read my filter!! Good job! I was already asked (kinda) about this and answered it. It's true, I'm even linking it, otherwise you might not find it in my massive one-page filter! Here! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548¤tpage=38#749I am putting pressure on him in a way, yes. Because he's being SUPER useless while being "confirmed" town. And that makes me mad. Cause if he keeps that up when Sharrant gets shot (and Sharrant WILL get shot soon, since he's the only mason that actually does ANYTHING), it ain't gonna be pretty. Your point about Sharrant being shot and him being useless is valid if him and sharrant aren't talking, which is a big assumption. Maybe sharky hasn't posted much so that he can focus on reading the thread a few times to get an accurate read of the situation, so he doesn't end up making piss poor reads and lie. I understand you wanting to be active. Show nested quote +Oh, I know a case exists. But I want you to meditate, find your inner center, and tell me how I should treat the case instead.
And stop being hypocritical about me not reading or whatever - I read the thread, I read all the filters. But you yourself seem to have conveniently skipped over some of my posts (in one case even over the sentence you were quoting from), just to rehash some concerns that have already been answered.
You even mention the mason thing, which was a stupid misunderstanding that thrawn STILL pointed out AFTER I ALREADY explained it without anyone even asking. Okay, okay, maybe a mistake by him (though scum thrawn is looking more likely by the minute), but WHY do you feel the need to bring that up again?
This sentence alone makes me think you're just trying to appear like you're "scumhunting", when you actually don't*. So you call my post "weird" to discredit me. I brought it up because you brought sharky's lurking up when, 1. He's a mason and can talk privately with sharrant 2. You're only case is against remedy, who is trying to make a case against you, and me, when I am making a case against you. Oh, and about your remedy case Show nested quote +*This is not just about this one sentence, your whole "case" is rehashed garbage you could've answered yourself if you actually read through the thread/my filter to really scumhunt, instead of picking a few posts out of context, ingoring the explainations I already gave, etc. "rehashed garbage". Hmmm when you're main arguments against me and him are that we don't "scumhunt". I believe Thrawn already addressed that part of the remedy case. And maybe if you read more into my argument, you could have seen my stuff added in with the "rehashed garbage" Show nested quote +Your only original contribution is the assosiation "case" with Xathalos. And that is so fucking horrible it gives me the worst nightmares (good thing I just woke up)
Even if that was the truth about this last post, I now have an even better contribution with this post. Show nested quote +But at least I can give you the good news! Remedy is no longer my top scumread! It's you! You win! Yaaaaay!
##vote debears
Disclaimer: I'd still be up for lynching remedy/stutters/insert-lurker-here too.
Way to OMGUS worse than kush. Oh and when did you make a case against stutters? I thought you knew how to scumhunt, since you're telling other people how to *drops the microphone emphatically*
The "town(?)" was intentionally selected as an expression because you seemed to imply that you think Remedy is town, in contrast to rethos.
Pls answer my question: Do you think Remedy is scum?
I NEVER, even remotely called for a vig shot on anyone.
The ONLY thing I said was that it's a valid strategy for lurkers to be dispatched by Vigs.
I even said, in the same post, that it doesn't apply to this particular game, because everyone and their mother lurks here.
You are making up points and putting words in my mouth. You are blatantly lying.
Keep it up, you gonna look real good for doing that in a few hours.
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On September 23 2012 02:28 Sharrant wrote:
Wait. So, someone you think is scum called you scum, so you're not going to do anything? Am I clear on that?
Someone you called scum, called you scum, so you don't want to make any more cases in case someone calls you scum, you're just going to wait until deadline and be lynched? I can't tell if you're gambling on sympathy to not get voted up, or if you're sincere and really hurt by debears saying you're scum. The latter means you're the thinnest skinned individual in the world, and that's a one in six billion chance.
Is this directed towards me?
If so, I don't really get what you're trying to say.
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On September 23 2012 02:43 Sharrant wrote:Yes. That is directed towards you. Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 02:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
But I understand that nobody will latch onto any of my wagons currently.
Last time I pushed a case of mine, debears called me scum for it.
Now now, I DO think that debears is scum, but I don't see a better fate for any of my cases as long as I live.
My plan right now is to set it up so that you will look back at my cases after I flip green and go all "oh he was green maybe I should actually read what he writes instead of jumping to stupid conclusions first"
So I currently hope that you won't just ignore my posts after I get lynched, and look at the people I make cases on. That's kind of a far-fetched assuption, given that town doesn't seem to give a shit about winning, but I care about meeting my wincon, so I'm going to do my best to meet my wincon.
"You" meaning all of town, not thrawn specifically. What the fuck is that? Honestly. I was going to bold the important parts, but it's all so... what the fuck? You pushed a case. Debears called you scum. You think debears is scum. But "I don't see a better fate for any of my cases as long as I live". So what? I told you to convince me that you're town, Rethos left you in a hole and you're digging it deeper. You say you're trying to meet your win condition. How exactly? Let's say you're town, you're willfully getting lynched. You're not trying to convince anyone, you've apparently given up on scumhunting in the hopes that your reads are then taken more seriously when you die. So you want the town to be down another town member on the second day, and then another at night. So you're perfectly fine with 4 town deaths in a row. How is that trying to meet your win condition unless you're not town. Let's say you're mafia. You're pretty sure you're found out, but you don't want to give out any potential information on your scumbuddies so you clam up, so that you go down without revealing anyone else. One of those sounds a lot more likely with everything you've said. You're not doing yourself any favours. Trying to make yourself a martyr as town ISN'T GOING TO HELP. So make some cases, and then you might not be the one lynched, and you might actually get that scum kill you were looking for.
I'm not exactly fine with it.
But I knew full well that it was very likely to happen when I replaced in.
I would like to make many many more cases, but since Remedy and debears are my highest scumreads (tip: I already made cases on them, and other people did too) and stutters (my #3 scumread) is impossible to make a case on because he doesn't post, I don't have any cases now.
About Killing and Atreides, all of importance has been said imo, and Kush already made a good case on Jacob, which made me reevaluate my read on him (Jacob that is)
I can't just wizzard more cases out of thin air, and I'm not going to make a case on people I don't think are scum.
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Also, Remedy never even answered my case (or any other current suspicions against him), even though we know he's here.
Remedy, where you at?
Care to post?
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On September 23 2012 06:31 debears wrote:@Dandel + Show Spoiler +The "town(?)" was intentionally selected as an expression because you seemed to imply that you think Remedy is town, in contrast to rethos.
Pls answer my question: Do you think Remedy is scum?
I NEVER, even remotely called for a vig shot on anyone.
The ONLY thing I said was that it's a valid strategy for lurkers to be dispatched by Vigs.
I even said, in the same post, that it doesn't apply to this particular game, because everyone and their mother lurks here.
You are making up points and putting words in my mouth. You are blatantly lying.
Keep it up, you gonna look real good for doing that in a few hours. Show nested quote +I'd also be down for lynching Stutters, Killing or Atreides, but all of them are mostly policy about lurking/non-conributing, and less about actual scumreads.
I do think, however, that getting rid of lurkers one way or the other is absolutely necessary looking towards MYLO/LYLO. If there's only 1 or 2 lurkers, that could be easily solved with a vig shot, but we have 3 (4 counting the late rethos), and possibly no Vig at all . Which sucks. I was looking back at your vig shot argument ( which is the only argument you actually refuted in my long ass case) and saw some extra stuff. You said that if there are only 1 or 2 lurkers, they can be "easily solved with a vig shot". Although you do say there are 3 or 4, why can't one of the 3/4 be "easily solved" with a shot also? If it is "absolutely necessary" to rid of lurkers towards mylo/lylo, why wouldn't you want them out of the way sooner? Also, you bring up the argument that we "possibly have no Vig at all". THEN WHY DID YOU BRING IT UP OUT OF NOWHERE????? You must have been actively thinking of there being a vig in the game to suddenly post about it. Who usually does that? Mafia? Town? Finally, you say that you'd be down for lynching stutters ( who you voted for despite the argument "being less about scumreads") while you have a scum read on me...an apparently strong one at that. + Show Spoiler +But at least I can give you the good news! Remedy is no longer my top scumread! It's you! You win! Yaaaaay!
##vote debears Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 00:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
Eh, if that's going to be the wagon, so be it.
##unvote
##vote stutters Oh yeah. This "makes me think you're just trying to appear like you're "scumhunting", when you actually don't", good reasoning.
Answer:
Do you think Remedy is scum?
Or do you think Remedy is town?
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Hm, Ninja'd
Well, I think Remedy is scum.
I even made a case on him, so pls no hate for voteswitching, kk?
##unvote
##vote Remedy
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Why do you think you NEED an argument?
Interesting wording you have there.
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For the record, currently my biggest scumread is actually debears.
But that might not matter, because the flip could change that easily.
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I prefer lynching Remedy.
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Well, Cubu didn't get modkilled either.
Might be another replacement.
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On September 23 2012 07:40 Atreides- wrote:
ugghhh
Stutters is a bad vote, right now I don't feel comfortable lynching him without him posting more. I think that his lurking is him genuinely being busy rather than intentional (due to his lurking last game. he once went 2-3 days without a post).
After my last post I would have felt strong about voting thrawn, I think I made a good case against him but it was pretty much swept under the rug. Seems like I'm alone here, and there's no chance of him getting votes. However at the very least I suggest looking into my post and his filter...being active doesn't make you town.
Dandel doesn't come off as scummy to me yet, and I posted earlier why I didn't buy the case against rethos. He's open to lynching debears, stutters, remedy, and possibly another lurker. Meaning if he's mafia it's less likely for these others to be mafia as well.
Remedy...I think he's a last resort lynch at best. I can't make any reads off him. His activity is in line with what he said his work schedule would be. His posts are too short, he votes without explanation, and his arguments don't make much sense...but I have trouble differentiating this between mafia and confused town.
So thrawn is the only one you want to lynch...
Come on, there are three scum in the game. Sit down and share some reads with your brothels brothers.
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Or if you defended yourself earlier than 10 minutes before the lynch.
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On September 23 2012 09:05 Atreides- wrote:
So it looks like 3 town and 6 mafia still alive? Not including the possibility of SK
I know that was most likely a typo, but it really does look like that.
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Alright I'm off to tha bed.
have fun in the meantime.
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EPT
