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marvellosity
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My vote is on Zeph, what do you want to know? vader looks bad for reasons BL stated. BL looks bad but that's BL for you. It's entirely unsurprising to me that he would not have a proper scumread to vote on day 1 - see my meta analysis of him in NMM3, i.e where he produced a spreadsheet of near-universal townreads when in line for the (mis)lynch I was leading on him at the time. Back to Zeph for a moment, he rolled scum in Mad Men, NMM2, and PTP3... from my perspective it makes sense that he's not able to give this game his all. I know when I've rolled scum a couple of times in succession it drains me. If he's town, I would have expected him to be eager to get stuck into playing town this game. | ||
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prplhz, Ange made some good points on Zeph, but I can reform them and pretend it's me if it makes you feel better? I've mentioned it before, but I find his "chronological" question on Risen's read on you to be quite out of place. Already explained my thoughts on BL. If you don't agree with me, be specific. | ||
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keep squirming | ||
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your whole case was either WIFOM or creating some mystical narrative that doesn't exist. There's very little for me to say about it. | ||
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On September 10 2012 14:02 Keirathi wrote: About marv: I'll give you that his lack of cases is disconcerting (which I already pointed out to him, but he didn't respond), and reading back through DFMM, I didn't realize just how much less information he has been forthcoming with in this game compared to that one (IE, he had large posts explaining his thought process/rationale/opinions on the major cases). Also, he dropped his case on me extremely easily (pressure vote?), and mildly buddied me. However, like I also mentioned, he does have a few posts that feel distinctly townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16154605 for one. As scum, why wouldn't he just let it ride that my post said I felt like he was distancing himself from the Risen wagon by unvoting? Also, his interactions with Risen feel different than his interactions with his "scum reads" in NMM3 and DN. Here, he was pretty "bulldog"-y. Like he was trying to keep Risen posting so that he could feel Risen out. In NMM3 and DN, he was using his arguments to convince everyone else, rather than starting a shouting match to convince himself. Conclusion: I'm always extremely paranoid of marv. He's certainly good enough as scum to be scary, and generally is more open and forthcoming about his reasoning as town. I'm not sure I have a firm grasp on how to read him though. I've spent a huge amount of time talking with him on IRC about strategy, past games, how he plays, how I play, etc etc. I feel like I have a decent idea of how he thinks, but the converse side of that is that he has a decent grasp on how I think as well, and is certainly smart enough to potentially use that to manipulate me if he was scum. Basically, I'm suspicious of him, but I don't think he is the best option for today's lynch. This is it, people are always terrified I'm scum, and people get suspicious of me. Keirathi, you should know very well I drop cases easily as town. s0lstice in Not Themed and Custos Luna in Dwarf, I both dropped extremely quickly. People bang on about cases - if people wanna do meta, then LOOK at my filter in say Mad Men. I didn't make a case on Zeph there at all, just went along with a redcheck (in comparison, look at how I did NOT vote for previous red check, talis). Then I voted VE on a paragraph and I only made my big case on JingleHell because town would'n't do what I wanted when I just told them to. | ||
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if you're town and this is true, you should hang your head in shame for being an awful player. jesus christ. | ||
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On September 10 2012 19:33 marvellosity wrote: if you're town and this is true, you should hang your head in shame for being an awful player. jesus christ. I mean come on, read some filters and get a lead. It's not acceptable in any way. | ||
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why are you surprised he would misrepresent you as well? | ||
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On September 10 2012 20:38 Bluelightz wrote: On Marv, as Keirathi (?) is as well, I'm extremely paranoid of him, he didn't die n1 is NMM2, he didn't die n1 here, he was scum in NMM2, I think he might be scum here too (I'll look over his defence for a more solid read). Zeph should have a field day with these 'slips'. I was scum in NMM THREE and didn't die, obviously. I was town in NMM2 where BL was scum himself and did not have me nightkilled. | ||
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On September 10 2012 20:23 prplhz wrote: I don't really like this Zephirdd lynch and I have no idea how so many people can think that Bluelightz looks townie. Dirkzor why do you think that Bluelightz is town? What makes you think Zeph is town? | ||
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On September 10 2012 20:53 prplhz wrote: not much really but i think that the case i wrote on bluelightz is ten times better i don't even understand the case on zeph people are wrong all the time but that doesn't make them scum bluelightz has actively not given given a shit about this game and that's way scummier do you not know how BL plays or something? Go away and read his filter in NMM3 and tell me he looked like he gave a shit about the game there. Do that and come back to me. | ||
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On September 10 2012 20:54 Bluelightz wrote: Oh shit what was the latest game we played together? Says in that post. So tell me, BL, why are you a fan of lynching me based on the fact I am alive when as scum you left me alive all game in NMM2? | ||
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On September 10 2012 22:36 Bluelightz wrote: I think the question just got herpa derpa because I forgot it was NMMIII where you were scum No, I am talking about NMM2. I NMM2 you were scum, I was town, and your scumteam left me alive for the whole game. So why are you pushing suspicion on me being alive here, when YOU YOURSELF left me alive as scum before? Answer the god damn question. | ||
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On September 10 2012 23:05 Quatol wrote: such a squirmy little scum you are, Zephirdd On September 10 2012 23:06 Quatol wrote: In that case you must think I have been the most useful in the game, logically. Correct? | ||
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On August 11 2012 00:31 marvellosity wrote: does anyone think Zeph is town and if so why? On August 11 2012 02:05 marvellosity wrote: why do you think zeph is town, talis? On August 11 2012 05:56 marvellosity wrote: i wanna lynch zeph ##Vote: Zephirdd On August 13 2012 03:02 marvellosity wrote: VE - finally gonna call scum on him. Now is the time to tell people he masoned me yesterday. I saw no effort from him to discern my alignment whatsoever. Further, I pointed out (in my filter) his lie to do with slOosh's perception of him. Also in his filter he says "I only ignore people when I'm scum" and he ignored talis re: Zephirdd multiple times (he said in private that this was "spite" - don't buy it). Generally I think talis' case is pretty strong. Kinda most noteworthy to me - VE has been playing in a much more constructive, "townie" manner recently. In this game he seems to have completely reverted to his old ways which suggest scum. For example the bit that talis pointed out - "you'll regret this folly tonight, medics will be all over this shit" is just batshit crazy and not recent town VE. ##Vote: VisceraEyes On August 15 2012 10:09 marvellosity wrote: okay, so let's kill JingleHell now ##Vote: JingleHell On August 15 2012 10:13 marvellosity wrote: read page 85 and tell me he's town On August 15 2012 10:30 marvellosity wrote: goddamnit why are you so bad | ||
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On September 10 2012 23:28 Zephirdd wrote: The only time you vote for me is when CountDropula claims a redcheck on me. In fact, without his redcheck, NOBODY would lynch me that game. You don't have to create an analysis when you got a redcheck. yeah, and there was a redcheck on talis too who I totally wasn't voting. What does that suggest to you? | ||
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