On September 07 2012 04:09 Ange777 wrote:
What feels wrong? The case on Risen? Or Risen's defense?
What feels wrong? The case on Risen? Or Risen's defense?
I'm very interested in this too and you should write this in your next post thank you.
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On September 07 2012 04:09 Ange777 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 07 2012 03:03 marvellosity wrote: ##unvote no particular explanation right now than something feels wrong. What feels wrong? The case on Risen? Or Risen's defense? I'm very interested in this too and you should write this in your next post thank you. | ||
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marvellosity points out that Risen does a scumslip. This scumslip isn't just for Risen though, it also implicates marvellosity as well. Bussing requires two scum, not one. marvellosity realizes that if Risen is lynched it is only a matter of time before someone figures this out and so he backs off. His backing off is also weird, it's allegedly because the lynch gained momentum but he doesn't say this before he is called out, he just says "I have my reasons but I'm not going to explain" and then the explanation is like, 10 words long. I don't like this one bit and I'd rather lynch Risen and then we can talk about marvellosity tomorrow. ##Vote Risen | ||
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On September 07 2012 05:08 Ange777 wrote: I can't say that a Risen+marv scum team has not crossed my mind but your post does not explain your weird vote switch from Risen to Keir. You can't seriously believe that putting the vote on Keir had more impact. Risen wasn't getting lynched at that point and Keirathi was to get something else going and he was looking dodgy too, I already expressed my suspicions of him in the thread. I read some of his other games then and this appears to be how he's playing all the time so not as worried anymore. | ||
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The reason I voted for him in the first place stands. I don't believe that you can have a clear scum read 3 posts into the game. Risen seemed anxious that no one was talking in the thread after his initial post and then when I immediately after asked him a simple question about his vote for me, he spent 10 minutes writing a 6 line response. This seems too carefully thought through if the case is just a "joke vote" to get things rolling. The guy was actually trying to write a real case 3 posts into the game and I don't believe this. Then later he tries to back down on that by saying it was obvious that his case was a joke. Then why did he not act as if it was a joke? It seems like he was just trying to downplay it because it was getting him into trouble. I pretty much think that this is enough, conflicting motives for actions is a clear sign of scum because scum never have any motive other than "Man, I better write some shit so they don't yell at me for lurking". Later he tries to back down even more by saying that he never actually thought I was scum, but townies don't lie and everything in his behavior said that he thought I was scum. There is no reason ever that a townie would make that much of an effort trying to make it seem like he thought I was scum unless he really did think that, there's no guaranteed benefit but there are potential disasters just waiting to happen. Townies don't do stuff like that. I also found this post very interesting. For a guy who has a 5 page filter in a 17 page game, he never asked who Quatol was even though he was "having a seizure". This is really weird because townies usually just shoot from the hip and ask whatever questions but even though he seems like he's saying what's on his mind, he actually isn't. Why is he even so nervous about Quatol? It's some dude writing whatever on another user, I knew that marvellosity is cohosting with Palmar whose smurf Quatol is so I don't know but I think townies would mostly feel annoyed that someone is making the thread harder to read by posting on another account. Risen is nervous which is something scum are but townies aren't. I think a lot of his posting seems nervous but this is a really good example of it. Why apologize? Scum apologizes but townies are like "get out, i'm the towniest townie in town just by how green my pm is". I trust my early reads because they are usually what I have the most luck with and I'm pretty sure that Risen is the best lynch for today. Also if you are some kind of blue it's probably time to claim. | ||
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Can you answer my question and tell me why you thought Risen was scum? I don't even get why you ignored it the first time but I'm sure you have a good reason for that. | ||
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On September 09 2012 03:43 Ange777 wrote: @prplhz: What do you think about Zeph? I'm not really all that worried about him right now. I'm more worried about Bluelightz. This game he was the only one to go against the Risen lynch (besides Risen himself). The last game I remember Bluelightz going against the "mainstream" lynch was Wheel of Fortune Mafia. In that game Bluelightz made a ton of cases on other people because he thought that zentor was town and that it was a mislynch. Everybody agreed that Bluelightz played really well post game, he even got a mention from Radfield in the Mafia Awards thread. This is how "moved" Bluelightz is from a mislynch that he didn't like this game: On September 08 2012 01:04 Bluelightz wrote: I'm gonna vote v7, because he's the most scummy candidate I have for now (Between Zeph/Risen who I believe both or townie, or my slight marv read that hinges on who get's killed day 2), and that, he hasn't talked about anything else BUT Risen. ##Vote: vaderseven (Also, I sadly can't be there for the deadline, unless I wake up early.) Next post after deadline: On September 08 2012 11:34 Bluelightz wrote: Well, my read was right. This doesn't look like the townie Bluelightz at all, it looks like a guy who doesn't give a shit at all and that's very unlike Bluelightz. I don't like Ange777 either, in the filters I read she was posting text wall after text wall exposing scum and apparently also carrying her team to victory. I don't see any of that here. There is prodding and there is poking but there's no whacking with a big stick but I'm less sure about this. Bluelightz is looking really bad. | ||
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"that's bluelightz for you" no it isn't, this isn't bluelightz. marv tell me why you like bluelightz and why you don't like zeph. | ||
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Dirkzor why do you think that Bluelightz is town? | ||
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bluelightz has actively not given given a shit about this game and that's way scummier | ||
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I can get on board this lynch, thought he was kind of weird day1 and with no counter claim yet it looks like Zephirdd is actually a cop. I have no idea why people are hating on the Bluelightz lynch so much though. | ||
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I thought about voting with my case but that was during the night so I didn't and I just never came around to it during the day because who gives a shit. No one. I think marvellosity was being really merciful when he described this thought process of yours as "a bit of a stretch". | ||
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