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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
You're saying that the mafia, instead of simply having two of their members pretend to be convinced that you were scum from the cases on you, decided to kill the traitor. Make no mistake, the mafia could have easily gotten you lynched, but they decided to kill a traitor instead. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
Not actually convinced Zentor is scum yet, brb. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 03 2012 05:00 marvellosity wrote: Hiro/hopeless/fuba, what do you make of ghost? I don't think he's scum. His responses to the stuff against him seem fine to me. We've had similar reads and reasoning on some players (Shady, fuba,) even though I've never mentioned any of it in thread. His reasoning seems ok. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 03 2012 05:14 HiroPro wrote: I don't think he's scum. His responses to the stuff against him seem fine to me. We've had similar reads and reasoning on some players (Shady, fuba,) even though I've never mentioned any of it in thread. His reasoning seems ok. alright. From his defence quite a bit of it comes down to his activity. gonna go over it and see if i'm ok with that. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
As you were. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
Two things that seemed strange after reading marv's post: 1) This is regarding #2. Ghost says that he didn't see the need to rehash his suspicions because they were the same as Hiro's. I accept this. However, the fact that he wasn't satisfied when Hiro was and provided no alternate reasoning against which MMToss could defend himself makes me suspicious. I see this as scummy. At the same time, I provided less room for MMToss to defend himself, though I didn't really claim to have had solid reasons for voting for him. 2) Regarding #4: Ghost's explanation resonates with me. I had such feelings about MMToss D1 and voted based on it. His D2 vote was more legitimate than my D1 vote. I only find it strange that he would say that his suspicions were confirmed without having stated those suspicions beforehand. Personally, I only reiterate that I had a certain read if I mentioned having that read beforehand. It may just be a playstyle difference. I'm not sure if I'd consider it a scumtell. It feels hypocritical to vote for ghost based on reasoning that could apply to me as well, but there are some subtle differences. At the moment I would be willing to vote for him, but I want to take a look at a few other people - Mr.Z, Risen, Hopeless, and Node for the sake of transparency - before placing my vote. My last two scumreads flipped town today, so I need to broaden my search. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 03 2012 05:32 ghost_403 wrote: Marv, I'm having a hell of a time trying to read Zentor. What do you think about him? After all, you've caught him as scum before. I'm just not sure. His play is scummy by any standards, but it's Zentor. When I caught him (and let him go) in NMM2 or whatever game it was, it's because I caught him in a trap and he squirmed like scum. Here there's just been downright bad play. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
##Vote: Risen | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
But the thing is he still hasn't actually given any damn reasons for ghost or Risen being scum. Beyond this.... My theory that totally makes sense. Ghost-Scum Risen-Scum that knows SnB is traitor, so he kills SnB the traitor, instead of Ghost his scum buddy. (SnB didn't know who the kira was, but Risen knew SnB was the traitor) So that's two confirmed scum. Like at this point I get the feeling that Zentor is just going "Hey if I play like complete scum, maybe they'll leave me alone". | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
##Vote: MrZentor | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
MrZentor(4) - HiroPro, Hopeless1der, Risen, marvellosity Ghost_403(0) - Risen(1) - MrZentor 4 out of 8 players voting Deadline is at [unparsable timestamp format] The International 2 is awesome | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
I'm a vanilla town. c: Anyways, I have to go, and I won't be back, so I hope you guys see that Risen is scum. Cya! | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
##vote MrZentor | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
##Vote MrZentor He votes almost arbitrarily for any of the potential lynch candidates with little reasoning and just about no support when his vote is questioned. I was going between MrZentor, ghost, and Node. My suspicion of Node stemed from his absence D1, his infrequent posting, and one of his comments that I had misunderstood. I do believe he could be contributing more, so some suspicion remains, but what he's said while here sounds reasonable. The fact that the 2 people in the game that I currently have a pretty good town read on are voting him too certainly helps. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
MrZentor(6)- HiroPro, Hopeless1der, Risen, marvellosity, Node, mkfuba07 Ghost_4030) - Risen(1) - MrZentor Currently MrZentor is set to be lynched! Not voting: ghost_403 Deadline is at 02:30 GMT (+00:00)! About 3 hours left to vote! Reminder: Voting is NOT mandatory and you cannot vote for yourself! Turn into The International 2 now! It's fucking amazing and we are not even in the grand finals! | ||
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