EPTNow you say this: "my role PM says that rolechecks on me before half the players in the game are dead will return detective and after that point they will return suspicious detective."
You're lying.
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HiroPro
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Now you say this: "my role PM says that rolechecks on me before half the players in the game are dead will return detective and after that point they will return suspicious detective." You're lying. | ||
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On September 02 2012 00:33 Node wrote: So you're saying it is possible for a check to return Suspicious Detective? Yes. My checks return either Detective or Suspicious Detective. | ||
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HiroPro
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On September 02 2012 00:34 Risen wrote: If you had claimed everything you're now saying at the start maybe it would be believable. Saying it AFTER being called out and AFTER seeing what Palmar flipped seems disingenuous. This so much. I also think it really unlikely that s&b would have started speculating about how certain people's checks may return guilty, certain people's checks innocent if his role was real. If he really was just about keeping it simple he would have just said "sometimes I'm a miller, sometimes i'm not". | ||
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HiroPro
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I speculate that there are different types of DT check in this game and I am only a miller to some of them - maybe L has special DT powers, and one of their advantages is that they are immune to some or all millers? | ||
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HiroPro
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On September 02 2012 02:01 strongandbig wrote: How about this - we kill ghost today because he's scum. Hiro or some other DT checks me tonight. I come back town and we realize I'm telling the truth? No 1. You're lying scum 2. I wasn't given a check today to waste on you. 3. I'm probably getting shot tomorrow. | ||
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HiroPro
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On September 02 2012 08:10 Shady Sands wrote: After reading through the thread, here are my thoughts. On SnB: I would suggest the cop check him. Hunting someone off a single claim like that as opposed to actual scummy behavior is a null tell, in my opinion, especially given that this game has rules so different from a normal mafia game. Heck, I'm not even sure about how the whole "suspicious detective" and "right arm detective" mechanic is supposed to work. It could be entirely possible that SnB got a different miller subtype than what Palmar got, or that Palmar was a traitor and not a miller, or he was a townie that was set up by a Mafia Framer with delayed flip. On September 02 2012 05:41 HiroPro wrote: No 1. You're lying scum 2. I wasn't given a check today to waste on you. 3. I'm probably getting shot tomorrow. Hi, please read the thread before you say stuff like this. There are no framers - and that part (Mafia Framer with delayed flip) makes no sense at all. Palmar was definitely not a traitor - his role PM was the VT PM (he's a miller). Suspicious detective is the equivalent of a guilty. I don't have a check to use today and I am probably not going to live long enough to give out a check which I would have to make tomorrow. It is not just the role itself- the big thing is the fact that he lied about what his role claim was in the opening post that was dedicated solely to explaining his role.... | ||
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On September 02 2012 10:53 MrZentor wrote: Na, I don't think scum knew he was the traitor. No I don't think so either. But they would have thought he was town and that's where it gets interesting. | ||
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HiroPro
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On September 02 2012 11:05 Node wrote: I disagree strongly. I think s&b's claim was made at least partially to alert scum that he was a traitor. Put yourself in Kira's position -- you're probably aware that you have at least one supporter hidden among the detectives. Who looks most likely? I'd have to imagine it's the person who claims they're going to start appearing red at some point to checks. Hm that makes sense. | ||
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HiroPro
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It's pretty simple: on day 1, Mr. Zentor actually tried to argue that Palmar was scum. He wasn't Risen, who simply disliked Palmar. His reasons were complete nonsense - Palmar is scum because he claimed VT and is trolling. On September 01 2012 05:56 MrZentor wrote: Let's assume that you, the reader, are a vanilla town. (If you're mafia say "I am not mafia in your next post.") Good. You just got your pm from Zephirdd. It's says that you're a detective, in green, so it's obvious that you're just a vanilla town. Why would you ever post in that in the thread? One of the many uses of the vanilla town is to act like a meat shield for the blues. You want scum to think you're blue. You want them to kill you instead of killing a blue. Now you're scum. Zephirdd has given you the information that the vanilla townsperson is a "detective". Now all you have to do is to allude to being a detective in the thread of free town cred. (yayyyy!!) So why did Palmar say what he said? And why is he acting so ignorant? On day 2, Zentor initially votes for s&b after several votes have been cast (myself, marv, Node). However, later when it looks like ghost might be a possibility (after Shady voted for ghost), Zentor switches votes onto ghost with reasoning that basically says "s&b's play too illogical to be scum". But what's missing? Any reason for lynching ghost. Let's lynch obvious scum. Let's kill Zentor. ##Vote MrZentor | ||
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HiroPro
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On September 03 2012 03:42 marvellosity wrote: Hiro - to the bit I bolded: ironic, isn't it? I don't get it. | ||
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On September 03 2012 04:27 ghost_403 wrote: Hey Zentor, why am I scum again? Looking through your filter, I can't find a good reason, other than I voted to lynch my lmfao | ||
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HiroPro
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On September 03 2012 05:00 marvellosity wrote: Hiro/hopeless/fuba, what do you make of ghost? I don't think he's scum. His responses to the stuff against him seem fine to me. We've had similar reads and reasoning on some players (Shady, fuba,) even though I've never mentioned any of it in thread. His reasoning seems ok. | ||
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HiroPro
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But the thing is he still hasn't actually given any damn reasons for ghost or Risen being scum. Beyond this.... My theory that totally makes sense. Ghost-Scum Risen-Scum that knows SnB is traitor, so he kills SnB the traitor, instead of Ghost his scum buddy. (SnB didn't know who the kira was, but Risen knew SnB was the traitor) So that's two confirmed scum. Like at this point I get the feeling that Zentor is just going "Hey if I play like complete scum, maybe they'll leave me alone". | ||
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HiroPro
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I have a red check on Risen. We lynch him ##Vote Risen | ||
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