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On August 28 2012 04:27 Toadesstern wrote: is that an /in? I vote ##Yes, that was an /in. | ||
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On August 30 2012 01:51 BroodKingEXE wrote: Whoever does that would be the most selfless third party player ever XD Bah, I took a bullet for Town in LV! | ||
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On September 02 2012 12:10 Lvdr wrote: I'm talking broad strategy. Maybe its just me, but I trust people a lot more before they have role pms, and I've never played a game like this. Save it. Few are here to talk about it now, and this is a perfectly good policy discussion when the game starts. Yes, you trust people more now, but getting a good read is better than finding the best tactic. | ||
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On September 03 2012 00:51 Rewok wrote: There's a word for arguing for arguments sake but I can't remember it. Anybody want to help me out? No there isn't! + Show Spoiler +  | ||
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Sure, just let me know if you are mafia.  | ||
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On September 04 2012 04:26 strongandbig wrote: wait shit it's my birthday? loooool I forgot edit: ooohhh korean time Congratulations? Game starting now and not tomorrow, got it. | ||
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On September 04 2012 08:22 DoYouHas wrote: I dislike you voting a veteran based on meta. You don´t kill veterans, you wait for them to either 1) crush the scumteam or 2) get shot in the night. If they live too long without doing any good, THEN you maybe consider killing them based on meta. slOosh, my vote is neither stupid nor a throwaway. I have a friend who I consider a better player than me who has told me that getting BM out of the game quickly is always a good thing. It is meta as hell but it isn't stupid. Toad's aggression towards you is completely null. You seem to be playing into your town meta so far, but I really won't know for sure until your first/second case. On September 04 2012 07:49 Miltonkram wrote: Too long, didn´t read. First things first, here is a list of games I've played in and links to my filters from those games. I start all my games with a list like this because it helps me improve. If I'm scum, I have to avoid playing closely to my scum meta. If I'm town, I put pressure on myself to make good reads. The list is spoilered so as not to take up space. + Show Spoiler + NMM XIV: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337671&user=240210 I was a Mafia Goon in this game. NMM XV: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340298&user=240210 I was a Vanilla Townie in this game. NMM XVII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344270&user=240210 I was a Mafia Goon in this game. NMM XVIII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345447&user=240210 I replaced into this game. I was a Vanilla Townie. NMM XIX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=347856&user=240210 I replaced into this game. I was a Vanilla Townie. I Can't Believe It's Not Themed MiniMafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351147&user=240210 I was a Vanilla Townie in this game. I was also in Normal Mini III as a VT, but I replaced in and wasn't able to be very active. I've got to go to work... on Labor Day T.T I'll be back in several hours. Leave me something to come back to. I´m not usually basing my reads upon meta that the player himself provided. On September 04 2012 07:55 BlackMamba24 wrote: What do you mean with the bolded part? It doesn´t make sense to me. My general stance is that every blue should ultimately do what they want. The environment of this game should not be about confirming blues and then doing what they say. Just because someone is innocent does not make them right in their convictions or accusations so it isn't of too much help really except for process of elimination. If a town plan arises I'm not gonna be a part of it but I advice blue players to use their own judgment. Never lynch someone just because they wouldn't claim to the town leader or whatever, that's asinine, asiten, asieleven, asitwelve, etc. Don't bother asking me for my reads because I will never post a list of reads and I hate it when other people post "reads". Thanks. On September 04 2012 08:01 slOosh wrote: What is your problem with Toades? Do you think he´s deliberately disruptive? Well BlackMamba's recent post just shows that people can miss information. My post has already proven itself useful, and your opening post which tries to discredit mine has not. Do you think I'm scum by my first post? | ||
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On September 04 2012 09:07 BlackMamba24 wrote: Sorry, I should have been more specific. I wondered about this phrase:I mean that blues should do what they feel is best with their own judgment and ignore any direction from the "town" On September 04 2012 07:55 BlackMamba24 wrote: Never lynch someone just because they wouldn't claim to the town leader or whatever, that's asinine, asiten, asieleven, asitwelve, etc. | ||
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On September 04 2012 09:12 Mattchew wrote: Why would you claim this? You eliminated yourself as a possible blue from scums list of townies, and it´s not like you doing this eliminates you as a scum suspect. If someone see you visiting a player who dies the we´re lynching you anyway. I am a nosy neighbor. Anyone else with this role should insta-claim as well. The reason people policy lynch people like BM and Grush is because they get by into later in the game because they are unreadable. This is because they barely actually play the game and if you end up in lylo with one of them left, you've basically already lost. I completely understand anyone wanting to policy lynch them, but we should also not allow them to be off the hook for some sort of scum read during the day. That being said, I remember thinking to myself that I don't hate BM's play in the last few games I have been in with him. I do not want to policy lynch today. | ||
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On September 04 2012 09:42 BlackMamba24 wrote: It sounded weird. It´s common for the voteleader to be lynched unless he claims (convincingly). What is there to explain? There's a difference between lynching someone for not backing themselves up after they're caught lying or whatever and lynching someone because they don't trust the town circle. | ||
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On September 04 2012 09:43 Mattchew wrote: Lying to town as a blue is a bad idea. If you fakeclaim nosy neighbor to fool scum, then you risk getting lynched by town. You are still going to draw a few trackers during the first few nights, just to make sure that you are really visiting people at random with no effect, so because of this you might actually be hurting town by distracting blues. Because there is no town benefit to me hiding this information. and for all everyone knows I could be a blue role trying to avoid being incorrectly tracked as well if I get tracked to a dead person atleast there will be something to think about before mislynching me | ||
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You were reacting very strongly to a random vote coming right at the beginning of the game. | ||
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On September 04 2012 10:00 Z-BosoN wrote: Yes, all nightactions, including mafia nightkills, can be detected by watchers and trackers. Hello folks ^^ I would appreciate it if someone could clear some things up, since I've never played in this setup yet. Right now I've noticed this new mechanic: visiting someone. A nosy neighbor will randomly visit someone. This will be caught up by the town watcher and/or tracker. Now what I don't understand: if a medic saves someone, or if a roleblocker blocks some, or if a Suicide Bomber plants a bomb somewhere, or if a goon tks someone, will they also "visit" this person? I´ve never seen you before. Have you been on TL-mafia long? What do you think about the game so far? | ||
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For now: ##Vote: Mattchew He´s a scummy liar and I´m 100% behind BC for calling him out. | ||
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Why do people fakevote, then say "lol, I never really voted!" It´s irritating. Making a vote in this thread might not count but I think it´s bad form. Similarly it´s bad to stealthvote in the other thread without confirming it here. If you want to pressurevote, do it for real. @BM On September 05 2012 05:57 Bill Murray wrote: I don´t get it. Matt was looking very strange for claiming when there was no benefit in claiming. I was talking to him to try and get a better read. Yes, if Matt was blue then I might have exposed him, but I wasn´t worried about that, I was thinking Matt was either NN or scum. check this scummy post from forumite 1) misreads the setup 2) attacks him with a smirk for the claim, which looks scummy as shit 3) takes the visiting thing a step further, saying "if they die" which clears a ton of scum roles... forumite is scum with a role FoS: Forumite With Matt looking more and more scummy, do you still accuse me of fishing for his role? Your FoS seem to rely on Matt being a townie, which he´s probably not. On September 05 2012 09:48 Rewok wrote: One lynch at a time. Once Matt is dead, we shut up during the night, and then try to figure out what his flip means tomorrow. We can´t lynch more than one target at a time, so we lynch the scummiest one and worry about finding the rest of the scumteam later. Been keeping up my reading. Here's how the situation seems to me: We're voting Mattchew today. Pretty much no getting out of that. If he turns up scum, Ottox and a few others could be on the chopping block. If he's town, we've got a whole new set of reads. But it seems to me that our whole strategy hinges on how Mattchew turns up after he's killed. Is there any way we can get another read / another kill set up for D1? One which doesn't hinge on Mattchew's alignment? I'm asking because you guys are way more familiar with the way TL mafia runs. | ||
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