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I don't see anything particularly good or bad about his filter. He let himself be drawn into the ottoxlol debacle but a lot of people did; his case on Gravan seems decent; there's some follow-through on it, but then he turns aside to the BKE case. I thought the case on BKE was pretty good as well, so there's nothing wrong with that.
His filter isn't the longest, but neither is mine so I don't think that's a scum tell. There's nothing in there that screams "town" but unless I'm missing something (which is possible on account of it's 7AM and I'm still fucking awake) I don't see anything that would put him higher on my "maybe scum" list than, for example, you or forumite (people who have a certain town meta that they're not playing to) or Z-boson (because of all the things austin pointed out, including his hedging and tentativeness, plus the weird vig-direction focus he's had - which I thought was a shitty breadcrumb, but since Austin turned out to be the vig, turns out to just be weird.)
So sloosh - why do you say I'm dodging? What is there to dodge? All those words up there explained my read, but it's exactly the same as before. If you want me to talk about him, then I assume it's for a reason and you didn't just pick his name out of a hat - but looking at his filter, I don't see what that reason is.
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i had to work the night shift tonight T____T
and since it's the weekend it was the extra long night shift (9PM-7AM) TT____TT
hence all the terrible spelling and capitlaisation i've been using for the past several hours
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On September 11 2012 04:07 Rewok wrote:
I've been wrong every time I voted on my own instinct and right the time I followed Toade so my vote is for Forumite.
##vote: Forumite
I... don't really like this logic. This implies that your own instinct is pointing at someone other than Forumite - who would that be?
That said, some logic I do like is the case on Forumite. It's not just that he's been way less "pro-town" and "invested" than usual this game, although that's the biggest part of the case; but I still think there are some sketchy things in his filter - that first "don't lynch vets" post still rankles considering it came from someone who is pretty vet-ish.
##vote: Forumite
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On September 11 2012 08:57 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2012 03:02 strongandbig wrote:
at least we know bm is town now :p S&B, what were you refering to?
That was a joke. I was referring to the fact that Mattchew said "BM is definitely town" before he died. In actuality, that gives us basically no info because of the wifom principle.
If you're actually interested in my read on BM - I put him in the "probably town" category, but not because of what mattchew said. More because he's been more involved and less shitty-town-atmosphere-promoting than his reputation or other games of his I've seen lead me to expect he would be.
That said, the "I'm town because I read Austin as blue and didn't kill him N1" is a stupid argument and it makes me pretty suspicious of z-boson that he was so pro it.
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I'm voting for maverickx.
Out of the cases so far, the one on him (redone recently by mementoss) has by far the most meat to it.
I don't have a town read on gravan like I do on grush and billmurray, so I'd be willing to consolidate on him, but the case on him just feels too "wtf where is he" without enough "also this is why he's scum."
I think compared to those two, mementoss isn't a great lynch for today since he seems to have started giving a fuck. However, that could just be him being scum and realizing that he has to start giving a fuck or die. But I think mav is the best lynch out of those today.
##vote: maverickx
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Also toad, have you considered Sloosh as one of the assassins when you do your scummy-vet-balance stuff? It would explain why he only started playing for real when he got called out on not playing to his town meta.
Also also, I'd just like to point out how once again you're not including yourself when you do vet-balance stuff. This is like the fourth game I've been in with you where you've done that.
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Yeah I think people shouldn't do things that hurt their team when they're town just because they help their team when they're scum.
but wrt sloosh - you said that BM and I are the assassins, but I'm not a vet either
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We should be killing Mav today.
He hasn't made a real read all game, and now comes out with a town-case on Gravan. We still don't have any scumhunting out of him, and town cases are easy for scum to make. I think he saw the writing on the wall and this is a ploy, and we shouldn't fall for it. It's not a case where the only motive was town; it's also very smart scum play, regardless of Gravan's alignment. A push on Gravan by Mav would just be dismissed, so this is his top option.
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wait whats going on
did you guys lynch me while i was playing dota? lol
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gg i guess
obs qt plz
apologies to my team for my lack of activity. working 11PM to 7AM really fucked with my head
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On September 24 2012 07:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
Reading the scum qt, my mad hatter idea was not that bad actually
As I had suspected, I was gonna get shot anyways. At least my death would confirm toad town/assassin, and in case a medic did indeed save toad, I would have gotten saved.
Your claim was really effective imo. Instead of shooting someone who actually looked townie we shot you to try and get a double kill. You basically managed to confirm toad and to make us use a shot to kill you instead of letting you get lynched.
And for this game - I disagree about the victory feeling hollow. I recognize that my play was terrible but I still feel pretty good right now.
Still pissed at mattchew though. That was just super dumb.
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On September 24 2012 09:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2012 09:46 strongandbig wrote:On September 24 2012 07:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
Reading the scum qt, my mad hatter idea was not that bad actually
As I had suspected, I was gonna get shot anyways. At least my death would confirm toad town/assassin, and in case a medic did indeed save toad, I would have gotten saved. Your claim was really effective imo. Instead of shooting someone who actually looked townie we shot you to try and get a double kill. You basically managed to confirm toad and to make us use a shot to kill you instead of letting you get lynched. And for this game - I disagree about the victory feeling hollow. I recognize that my play was terrible but I still feel pretty good right now. Still pissed at mattchew though. That was just super dumb. TBH I honestly do not feel his claim was "super dumb" as everyone makes it out to be. It was stupid in retrospect but the OP did not indicate that NN were unaware of their alignment and if you read the thread up until I outed him for it no one was attacking him for his claim being fake as hell, but that it was more oddly claimed. Even before Palmar confirmed they did not know their alignment the town should have realized something was amiss when literally no one else claimed NN to verify mattchews claim. That in its own right should have been the proof to get him lynched barring a mod post. Had it not been for a player such as myself, and any other player who has hosted (very few I believe in this game) near no one else thought to even ask so the claim was only bad given that certain people were almost sure to ask questions. For the rest of your team play though I think you guys were slightly too passive and should have exerted a bit more control. You guys could have easily pushed a misslynch onto a few people with a bit of effort and when it came down to the lynch snb died in I have no idea well, how you did. Given that a mafia member was required to get you lynched over a townie you could have coasted safely by never having allinson vote for your death thus auto win the game basically.
lynching me wasn't a team decision or anything. imallinson just did it while I was off playing dota, and I'm still not sure why he did.
and re the fake nosy neighbor claim, claiming like that is "super dumb" in an open setup where it is actually verifiable. If you're going to do it at all it should only be done either in games where self-aware millers are confirmed to exist or in games with a closed setup like deathnote, where I had just done the exact same thing but where I knew that the hosts wouldn't tell anyone how the miller mechanic worked or even whether there was one.
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On September 24 2012 11:19 slOosh wrote:I enjoyed being bulletproof. Please give me more such roles  I also dunno how the SnB lynch went down but that was fun.
at least we only shot you once, unlike toad.
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