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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 19:55 GMT
#328
@Lvdr

Just wanna let you know that I am still considering changing my vote but I need to hear from more people first. You think the WeeTee vote is based on poor play and I disagree. If a WeeTee lynch isn't possible then I will go for Dandel.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 20:00 GMT
#331
On August 26 2012 04:58 Lvdr wrote:
Also, I am still super disappointed that people are just missing at the key lynch time.


Yeah i'm kinda irritated at shady, he was super active then goes afk from the thread.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 20:10 GMT
#337
On August 26 2012 05:08 Lvdr wrote:
GUYS WE MUST AVOID A NO-LYNCH!!

I agree but I'm gonna give it more time to hopefully hear from other players.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 20:34 GMT
#357
Vote count?

WeeTee is still my strongest scumread. Those of you that think lvdr is trying to avoid a vote for weetee should consider voting for WeeTee. WeeTee still hasn't given his read on lvdr and he's been the most noncommittal about everything else.

If WeeTee gets lynched and flips red then it's very likely that lvdr is also red. WeeTee being scum would indicate that WT/lvdr are protecting each other.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 20:37 GMT
#361
On August 26 2012 05:30 Lvdr wrote:
@Thrawn You hold the lynch in your hand.


Recent posts from shady are making me doubt your case against Dandel. In light of that I'd rather have a no-lynch than lynching someone I don't think is scum.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 20:39 GMT
#364
On August 26 2012 05:36 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 05:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
Vote count?

WeeTee is still my strongest scumread. Those of you that think lvdr is trying to avoid a vote for weetee should consider voting for WeeTee. WeeTee still hasn't given his read on lvdr and he's been the most noncommittal about everything else.

If WeeTee gets lynched and flips red then it's very likely that lvdr is also red. WeeTee being scum would indicate that WT/lvdr are protecting each other.


I don't want to waste my vote, and my prior read on WeeTee still stands. I'll hammer him if you're still not sold on Lvdr.


My strongest scumread remains at WeeTee.

Where the fuck did all the other players go
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 20:42 GMT
#367
On August 26 2012 05:40 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 05:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
On August 26 2012 05:36 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 26 2012 05:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
Vote count?

WeeTee is still my strongest scumread. Those of you that think lvdr is trying to avoid a vote for weetee should consider voting for WeeTee. WeeTee still hasn't given his read on lvdr and he's been the most noncommittal about everything else.

If WeeTee gets lynched and flips red then it's very likely that lvdr is also red. WeeTee being scum would indicate that WT/lvdr are protecting each other.


I don't want to waste my vote, and my prior read on WeeTee still stands. I'll hammer him if you're still not sold on Lvdr.


My strongest scumread remains at WeeTee.

Where the fuck did all the other players go


If Mkfuba doesn't vote WeeTee nobody gets lynched. And shouldn't WeeTee be in this thread?

Your candidate is lvdr who has less votes than WeeTee.

This is really frustrating... it's hard to come to a consensus when less than half the town is posting.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 20:52 GMT
#382
fucking majority lynch

time to go get high
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 20:54 GMT
#385
On August 26 2012 05:53 mkfuba07 wrote:
I'm gonna go to a sweetcorn festival, but getting high sounds like a good time too.


I imagine they'd go together pretty well
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 25 2012 21:24 GMT
#401
gonna watch sci channel and sleep so goodbye for now. last few hours have been mentally exhausting to say the least.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 05:48 GMT
#417
On August 25 2012 02:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 01:43 mkfuba07 wrote:
I'll be honest here and say that I'm actually inclined to believe kush. His play has been consistently bad, while I feel a newbie scum would have been far more variant. He would also have another person to discuss his play with, instead of having to hear from us how poorly he's been playing. He seems more 'alone' than a scum would be, if that makes sense.

That actually is a decent point.
But I'm not so sure that him being "alone" is necessarily a town tell either, the way his case was going for the most part whould most likely discourage scum-partners to defend him too much - it's even more probable that he is subtly bussing him, rather than defending.

But this is all pretty WIFOM. As it stands, your point, while a good one, looks like a straight-up null-tell to me. But I understand if you see it as a town-tell..

I also think that kush was playing "bad town" rather than scum for the most part.
But I will reserve judgement on him, no matter which way, until he explains why he was claiming JK there.
I really don't get it, and as I said, it's not very believable imo.


Dandel this post doesn't make very much sense. After reading that post I have absolutely no idea what read you were giving on kush. You use as you said, arguments that are "all pretty WIFOM" and assign a null tell to mkfuba's point about kush seeming to be alone. Then you say you "think that kush was playing "bad town" rather than scum for the most part." And then you say that his JK claim is "not very believable." So which is it? You say you will reserve judgement on him till he explains his JK claim but I think it's perfectly obvious why both a scum or town kush would roleclaim. Newb-town kush would do it out of desperation, and scum kush would do it as a scare tactic to avoid getting lynched. I don't see why you would need to see his explanation for why he claimed blue before you can give a read on him.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 08:32 GMT
#419
Well it seems like shady and lvdr are incredibly pissed at each other. I sense a lot of tension between them and that strikes me as townish behavior because I don't think scum would bus each other as hard as they are doing. Shady looks more townish than lvdr, because lvdr has made quite a few posts based on inaccuracies and he's backtracked on his words a few times. However lvdr has given acceptable town motivations for a lot of his posts so I'm gonna say that they are both town and they need to calm the fuck down.

Dandel lon barely avoided being lynched yesterday so I'm gonna focus on him right now. It's very suspicious that he almost got lynched and then a townie got lynched instead... so I'm going to read through the posts made during the last few hours of D1.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 08:53 GMT
#420
As far as night actions go, whoever is cop should investigate Dandel lon. There is no framer or miller in this game so you won't have to worry about getting an incorrect read. Obviously you shouldn't roleclaim cop this early on so keep it to yourself... I think an investigation on Dandel will give you the most useful information you could get at this point.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 11:29 GMT
#427
On August 26 2012 20:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
Meh.
Work just cut into my freetime like knife into butter.
I didn't know it would, or I wouldn't have signed up in the first place. But now I'm here.

I'll have about ~2 hours of time today in the evening. And probably the same amount for the rest of the week.
Not that I expect this time will help any, with how it looks. So I'm just gonna play GW2 for most of that. I'd much rather do that anyways. If my best fucking efforts to still be active despite everything are still not enough, no need to bother.

Usually the sensible thing would be getting replaced I guess, but the replacement would just get lynched day 2 too, so no need to bother, hm?

A dick move?
Yeah. But I don't care anymore.


So what are you going to do? This statement...

On August 26 2012 20:22 Dandel Ion wrote:usually the sensible thing would be getting replaced I guess, but the replacement would just get lynched day 2 too, so no need to bother, hm?

...makes it look like you are going to stay in the game. But if you don't care about the game, then why would you remain in it? If you truly don't want to play anymore then you should drop out and ask for a replacement.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 12:10 GMT
#436
Now that Dandel is going to be replaced what does everyone think about him being a D2 lynch target? Whoever the replacement is, I don't think we should ask them to defend anything that Dandel said earlier in the thread. The replacement should only be held accountable for his/her posts. I say each person should evaluate Dandel's posts and form a read on them and then leave his case at that for the time being. (my read is scummy) But until the replacement has a chance to post and scumhunt we shouldn't go for a lynch on them unless their N1/D2 actions are scummy.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 12:35 GMT
#438
On August 26 2012 21:33 Spaghetticus wrote:
My thoughts on it are that I would much prefer a lynch on Shady, as although I am suspicious of Dandel, this recent lack of interest is either a very good self bus play, or genuine disinterest, which I would not expect from a scum player.


Is your case the same or do you have anything else to add because I wasn't convinced by your original case.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 13:23 GMT
#443
On August 26 2012 22:05 kushm4sta wrote:That is why people should decide who I RB. They can pick the least scummy person to minimize the chance that it will be my "scumbuddy."

It wouldn't be absolute proof. You could always get roleblocked by mafia and then your roleblock wouldn't go through.
Is that what would happen? If player A submits a roleblock on player B and player B submits a roleblock on player C will player C be roleblocked?

On August 26 2012 22:05 kushm4sta wrote:@thrawn You have actually been riding shady's dick quite hard this game. I'm not saying it makes you suspicious but maybe you are putting too much stock in his meta.

I'm extremely familiar with shady's super aggressive and nit-picky town play. I was tunneled by him so hard in newbie game 24 that I ended up voting for him thinking that "no way a town player would be like this" and he ended up flipping green. I'll go through his filter again and see if his actions appear scum/town motivated.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 13:59 GMT
#445
On August 26 2012 22:53 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 22:23 thrawn2112 wrote:
It wouldn't be absolute proof. You could always get roleblocked by mafia and then your roleblock wouldn't go through


Oh no. I reread the rules. The scum RB is just going to RB me, so my RB isn't going to go through. I did not realize this.


It's hypothetical scenarios like that which makes your jk claim kinda silly to think about. You would do better to show that you are town by scumhunting. I see right now that you are most suspicious of shady and I'm about to post on that so let me know what you think of my upcoming post.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 14:01 GMT
#446
I'm gonna stick with my town read on shady. In the cases against him (mostly spag's) he is mainly accused of picking apart statements to try and throw suspicion around. He does indeed nitpick a lot, but the only times when the nitpicks seemed like they could have been scum motivated were at the beginning of the game when there wasn't anything to talk about except lurker policy. As I read through his filter his questions became more and more indicative of somebody who is scumhunting rather than someone who is trying to generate pointless suspicion. Makes sense.... the level of controversy slowly builds as the game progresses so constant aggressive questioning will look scummy at first when there is no controversy.

He did change his votes around during the last half of D1 but his overall motives were consistent and transparent. For example, he agreed with my case against WeeTee and said he would consider WeeTee as a 2nd candidate before most other people had done so. He was one of the first to commit to that (backup WeeTee plan) and he followed through on it. He has maintained his other suspicions (against kush and lvdr) very consistently while continuing to scumhunt.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 26 2012 16:25 GMT
#449
On a side note, cop please don't roleclaim. It's way too early in the game to even consider doing that. Breadcrumb your night checks or something to be revealed at a later date.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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