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On August 27 2012 14:37 Lvdr wrote:
4. He never referenced any IRL issues that limited his posting D1. Its not hard to say "excuse my low amount of posts, IRL issues." Replacement only came up after the lynch which makes it implausible for explaining the d1 lurkiness.
Kid, let me walk you through my filter. You're clearly not able to read it yourself. A fact that I suspected ever since you posted your "case".
Pregame: I'm-gonna-be-at-work post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=4#62
First ingame post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=5#86
As I stated before the game I'm at work right now, so I will just post my thoughts on policy for now:
more:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=14#265
I will be gone for the next few hours too - I didn't have time to read the thread yet, so I can't really comment right now.
I will be back (well) before the deadline.
Sorry
"well" is in brackets because 3-4 hours might not seem like "well before" to other people. I come back and suddenly there's a case against me.
And now people say "hurp durp he didn't say anything until a case was made against him."
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The post you wanted, apologizing for not being active, that I supposedly didn't write: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=15#297
Okay, I'm here and going to post my current opinions.
Sorry I was pretty busy the last days, I would have liked to be more active too.
Bigger post coming soon(tm)
And as I said, I think it'd be redundant to get me replaced, since the replacement will get lynched within ~10 hours now. But other people seemed to want me to try. Don't know why they did.
This is gonna be my last post (very last, probably) because I'm not gonna be here at fliptime.
So since I'll have to vote somebody, I'll vote Lvdr. For not being able to read. And for making up shit all the damn time.
##vote Lvdr
Pz out.
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On August 29 2012 09:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
obs qt?
Everyone go over to Newbie 26.
I'm glad town won but honestly it felt very anticlimatic. I sorta expected something like this because of the two scum setup. I was secretly hoping that dandel would go green just because it would make for a longer and more interesting game.
Dandel after D1 I was still not sure that you'd be a good lynch. What changed that was your posts during N1. Gobalt did a similar thing at the end of the last newbie game... you say "I don't have time for this and idc about the game anymore" but then you say you still aren't going to quit. That absolutely sounds like a scum who's given up but still thins they can win. Then I pressured you to quite, and you said you would do so. But then during D2 all of the sudden you still haven't dropped out and are making a case againt lvdr but say you aren't going to post again? It looked exactly similar to gobalt's tactics during nmmxxiv and it was really the only good reason I had for thinking you were scum.
Lvdr: When you first brought up your case against dandel I actually agreed with it. But then dandel pointed out that you had lied about him being extremely experienced, and I began to think about all the other mistakes and lies you had made throughout the game. Like in almost every one of your cases there was a blatant misrepresentation or factual error and it was hard to ignore those.
mkfuba: I thought if dandel flipped green then you were probably scum. I guess I just don't like your hesitant playstyle. The way you responded after me making a case against you convinced me you were town. You defended my accusations and then made a good case against shady, that seemed to be a very townie thing to do.
weetee: dude you gave me every reason possible to vote for you. wth wouldn't you answer my simple question about lvdr?
kush: you should leave emotion out of your posts. you gonna play in newbie 26?
alsn: sorry you had to go you seemed smart from the posts you were able to give. lol I was actually expecting myself to be the NK
spag: at one point I thought you might be scum but it was your huge ass posts during D1 that convinced me otherwise
shady: bro wtf. Right when i was finally willing to consider that you weren't town the whole thing between you and lvdr happened and I was convinced that you two truly were just townies pissed at each other. So good acting/trolling/whatever
No I knew I was dead. No point replacing somebody in, in that situation imo.
For the record, I did still officially ask for a replacement, because in the off chance I was NOT lynched day 2, I'd still have needed a replacement.
I'm kinda mad about how day 1 happened, btw. Everyone jumps me for "lurking" when I specifically said that I was gonna be absent for a large part of the day, and then everybody ignores how Lvdr's 'case' is just a bunch of lies and bullshit.
I don't understand it.
I'm also pretty certain my posts would have been almost exactly the same if I was town - the only real difference is that I wouldn't have gotten a replacement, and instead asked for a modkill (aka, just not voting). Since that'd be better for town in that situation, no day wasted on the lynch and all.
My activity wouldn't have changed, work is still a shit, GW2 is still out, and I would have been mad enough at town/lvdr for being morons (imo) to not post.
But yeah, this game was over with the day 1 lynch. In hindsight, I should've yelled at Shady in all caps to bus me instantly, but I still thought the situation salvagable.
I did not expect people to buy Lvdr's case, ever. Serious overestimation on my part.
Also, I'm sorry for screwing Shady over. He was playing pretty well.
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On August 29 2012 10:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
my reasoning was that if you were town you would have still tried to scumhunt even if you knew you were going to die
something just didn't seem right
I know myself very well, and I wouldn't have.
Because fuck that.
Also, I am/was a serious GW addict and I need my fix.
I know what it'd look like, but I promise you I wouldn't have done shit anymore. I would've thought "this town can lose for all I care".
Not saying that that's ALWAYS what I'd do, but if I have ~2 hours of free time a day at max, I'd rather spend it with something fun, instead of answering lvdr and getting ignored, just so he can make random shit up a few hours later.
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On August 29 2012 10:32 Shady Sands wrote:
If there's anything that kind of bothers me about this game, it's being told by Dandel midway through N1 that I was getting a new scum team member, then not hearing a peep about that for the next 48 hours. That really threw me for a loop as I had no way to coordinate a bus or do anything D2.
As I said, I PM'd ghost for one.
He said something about asking somebody, and I never heard anything again. Not like it would've mattered if somebody else went to the chopping block for me.
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On August 29 2012 10:35 Hapahauli wrote:@ Dandel Ion:Well it isn't so much about what you would or wouldn't do as town - it's about this game and what you should have done to keep yourself alive as mafia, no? While I didn't think you were scummy at all D1, you needed to do more to get yourself out of the lynch on D2. You could have been much more proactive in your defense and probably could have gotten Lvdr lynched if you tried harder. Show nested quote +This is gonna be my last post (very last, probably) because I'm not gonna be here at fliptime.
So since I'll have to vote somebody, I'll vote Lvdr. For not being able to read. And for making up shit all the damn time.
##vote Lvdr Certainly you could do much better than the above to push a lynch, no? I actually find it hard to believe you'd post something like this as town, having played with you in XXIII.
I don't think I could have, realistically.
I could have thrown down a larger, better-worded post, yes. But I wouldn't have been able to do anything else, no follow-ups, nothing. I am convinced it would've never been enough to get an actual lynch off on Lvdr.
Not enough time, and it sucked. Majorly. But eh, what can you do....
€: Nvm at you too, then
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@Spaghetti:
You actually were my #1 cop read.
But Shady thought it was Alsn, and I thought it'd be better to NK Alsn anyways, since you kinda didn't do anything.
imo lynching dangerous players > trying to snipe blues that are not really dangerous. (hence why we didn't kill kush)
Also, I couldn't be sure if there even WAS a cop.
So it was Alsn.
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