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On August 25 2012 04:43 Shady Sands wrote: Wait a second. You do a town call on me, knowing full well it's early for a town call, just so you can trap people later, then when no one falls for your trap you turn around and FoS me? This makes a lot of sense. Not. I did an early town call to gauge reactions. At that point there was NO content AT ALL. Somebody has to offer something. Now that there has been actual posting, I find your attacks on Kush suspicious. Therefore, I FOS you. | ||
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For d1 lynch I direct the towns attention to this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=13#253 To have no reads at this point is completely absurd. Also incredibly anti-town. Reeks of mafia playing too safe. Suspecting thrawn for being 'passive' is equally absurd. Thrawn has been active and productive. Not 100% confirmed town, but prolly the closest we have right now. Add in this comedy of a follow-up: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=13#259 Can I just say the entire post sucks? WeeTee says he has no reads and then comes at thrawn with Make a real case for gosh sake, now ur clearly FoSing me for the sake of it You have refused to make a case and then OMGUS'ed someone for actually making a case against you. shady really.. if your intelligent you wouldn't join this bandwagon too This is not even an argument, just an emotional appeal. ##vote: WeeTee | ||
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WeeTee's post before this one is the highest quality one to date, but this post is just more... bad. Why are you piling on to kush (who is maybe the only easier target than you) when we have already decided that he is a poor choice to lynch d1? Your defense is that you are a new player just like kush, so your play has been bad-town instead of scummy, yet you still decide to vote for kush, the person you modeled your defense after. This doesn't read town, this reads mafia starting to struggle coming up to the lynch deadline. | ||
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1. First town read maybe 35% confidence. Partially motivated by an actual read (that was early and incomplete), but much more in order to stimulate discussion. Not really a brillient play because many players are new and couldn't comment on metas, but I was trying. 2. Given that it was early, I basically reserve the right to change my mind. Townies cannot be afraid to share reads because if they change their minds, suddenly they're scummy. 3. I think Dandel may have a point about bringing arguments in from other games. Both me and Shady are in Normal III, and we suspect each other there too  Hard to keep an impartial mind because I see many similar charactaristics across the games. For what its worth I think he's either town in both games or mafia in both games.4. I would argue my FOS has been useful to town, there has been a good amount of discussion and I have been active in that. For example when I FOS'ed you, you hadn't posted much in the way of content -- now I would say you are active in scum hunting and so the FOS was successful. | ||
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I don't like Shady as a d1 lynch for these reasons: 1. I think there is a legit meta case for shady being town. His aggression and tunneling so far does match Newbie Mafia IV where he got mislynched d1 as an overeager townie. 2. He has been active enough that I think that if he is mafia we will be able to catch him later based on stances he has taken. 3. As a general rule, lynching active but contriversial players D1 leads to mislynches. | ||
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There is nothing worse for a town than for it to be afk when the lynch is going down! | ||
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I think we should lynch Dandel Ion Dandel Ion is one of the most experienced players in this game, yet he has also been one of the most lurky. He has offered almost nothing but filler posts to appear active while doing basically no scumhunting. He is much too experienced to be as passive as he has been. The only time he has offered a FOS it has been to lightly suspect me, at a time when it was EXTREMELY safe to do so. Read through his filter: it SCREAMS mafia lurking through D1. He offers just enough content to register as active without really contributing anything to town. I am still suspicious of WeeTee, but I stand by my statement that lynching active but contriversial players D1 typically leads to mislynches. WeeTee could still be bad-townie or desperate-newb mafia, but I do not think he is the best D1 lynch target. Finally, whatever happens town cannot allow there to be a no-lynch. Therefore I implore all townies to ##Vote:Dandel Ion | ||
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At this point I REALLY think Dandel is a much higher quality lynch than WeeTee. WeeTee is playing poorly, But Dandel is playing Scummy. Scummy>bad | ||
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I am also looking askance at kush for not voting at all!! or being in the thread!! As far as I can tell, Shady is MIA as well. | ||
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On August 26 2012 03:52 Dandel Ion wrote: To start things off, responding to lvdr's case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=15#285 This is a flat out lie. I have played a SINGLE game of mafia so far. (not counting the half-day that got restarted) lvdr, shady and mkfuba have all played more games, thrawn just as many. I didn't really push anyone but you yet, since all the "cases" so far were pretty much just screaming "bad newbie" to me, instead of "scum". Then there was you VS Shady, which I consider to have not much to do with this game. Well, since that is the extent of your case, I consider it adressed. Since you all seem to want my reads, here we go. (thoughts on other people coming after this, I'm getting pretty annoyed by the whole OMGOMG I'M WAITING FOR HIS POST, so I just decided to split it up.) WeeTee: The extent of his first ~10 posts was either 1) insulting people, 2) not contributing or 3) both. His last post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579¤tpage=14#266) reads to me like he's just trying to secure a lynch on somebody else, no matter who it is In an earlier post, he FoS'd Alsn for going for the "easy lynch". Behold, just a little later he is doing the SAME thing, to the SAME person. Even though he soft-defended him earlier. The only other thing he has done so far is argue with thrawn. He's not contributing and contradicting his own words. Thus, Weetee is my strongest scum read at the moment I think we can safely bandwagon onto Dandel now. Please lynch I take full responsibility!! First of all, dandel tries to claim my case is mostly about experience or meta reads. Let me be clear: Dandel's filter has HARDCORE LURKING in it. Scummy, mafia, lurking. Second, I think a good case has been laid out for WeeTee being a BAD choice of D1 lynch. Dandel's vote here is essentially 'I pick the more scummy of kush vs. WeeTee.' This also SCREAMS mafia. Also, if you read the end of Newbie III D1 (second time around) you see that Dandel is capable of decisive action towards a quality lynch for town. WeeTee is not a quality lynch! | ||
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