EPTgg scib.
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DoYouHas
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gg scib. | ||
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DoYouHas
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First off, what is this crap: On August 14 2012 02:22 Custos Luna wrote: How convenient for the only one to take the time to defend me to die D= Scib was the first (and really only) person to step up and make a case in my defense. He is now dead because of this. Mord is the only active player left who I have been consistently targeting, calling him out as the remaining scum member. Are you really this paranoid/narcissistic to believe that scib getting killed was all about you? It couldn't have been because he was the town leader, the towniest player, or for any of the other numerous reads he had over the course of the game? This is the second time you have done something like this. It is WIFOM and what is worse, this time you are using it in your case against Mord. Add on top of that all the problems I have had with your play so far this game. My initial dislike of CL's first 2 posts. My case against CL. (My theory about prplhz and Forumite both being town was proved wrong, but that doesn't change that CL handed his scum read control of the lynch. Possibly just a mistake, but still bad.) Then risk.nuke's case had 2 things in it that caught my attention. The first is that it is true that CL seemed overly cautious and afraid of firmly taking a side between Forumite and prplhz, even before I pointed out they were tied in votes. Which brings me to CL's morning evaluation. Right here we get CL's opinion that prplhz is a worse lynch than Forumite. But more importantly, look at the function of this post. It attacks the prplhz wagon, proposes Mord as an alternative, and leaves the Forumite wagon fairly untouched, bolstering it if anything. CL has already admitted to a wrong read on prplhz, but that doesn't change that this post fits neatly into scum agenda. For those first 3 reasons I gave, I'm not going to vote CL(yet), I want a response and some debate before I make my final decision. @slOosh & Mord - If you actually are looking to push Shiaopi you need more than 1 contradiction and 1 bad case, those have been everywhere this game. If that was all it took to lynch someone Mord would already be dead. I know that slOosh at least is capable of much better case building than what I just read. Are we all content with HiroPro sitting on the sidelines through N3? He was a top scum connection if prplhz flipped mafia, but now that he has the possibility of being modkilled you all seem content to forget about him. @ Keirathi What are you thinking right now? Which of the 3 wagons (CL, Mord, Shiaopi) has most merit to you? | ||
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DoYouHas
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DoYouHas
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##Vote: risk.nuke | ||
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DoYouHas
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What you SHOULD have done is made note of the possibility and attacked anyone who came after you using the very same WIFOM reasoning we are complaining about you using. | ||
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DoYouHas
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We can't afford this town's general activity level in LYLO. I'm going to be stepping it up today, please do the same. | ||
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DoYouHas
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As for your case slOosh, it has merit. I'll elaborate later, busy atm. | ||
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DoYouHas
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So, if they are not the scum team, that means that one of CL and slOosh is scum. Which makes this lynch on Shiaopi much more likely to be a mislynch. If this line of thinking is accurate then 2/3 of slOosh, CL, and Mord are scum. This is what I want discussed. How likely is a Mord/shiaopi scum team? Because if it isn't likely, then both of you are on the wrong person. I can see the possibility that they have been opposing each other but not actually looking to get each other killed all game for just such a situation as this. But the level of play this game has been pretty low, so I would be surprised if they committed themselves to something like that so early. Thoughts? | ||
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DoYouHas
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It might not be as unlikely as I thought, and it definitely fits my reads. After taking a broader view I don't find that CL's bad play necessarily = scummy play, and I would lynch either shiaopi or Mord before him. And I feel like slOosh has been genuinely scum hunting. ##Vote: ShiaoPi | ||
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DoYouHas
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Sorry for fostering the inactivity this game. I was playing way outside my town meta most of the time and the inactivity helped me hide it. | ||
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DoYouHas
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Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/ryeZJk6AxwZ | ||
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DoYouHas
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Something that I realized might give me away later was the final vote count from day 1. In a situation where votes are on 2 main candidates, mafia almost always split their vote between them. In this case it was only slightly less likely because prplhz was scum so all scum 'might' have piled onto Forumite. But still, as town, I would have held to the vote splitting theory. Here is where it gets a bit tricky. prplhz(5): DYH, After the hit on Keirathi, I was the only one from the original prplhz wagon left alive. All the others were townie. To me, this would have been a major red flag. But you got to give me a little credit for those blue snipes. | ||
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Am I correct in saying what kept people from suspecting me was that case and the fact that I almost got prplhz killed day1? That was an accident btw. I asked him if I could go after him. He said bring it on. Then he almost didn't defend himself. All he had to do was post and my case against him would have been so easy to back off of. But then he didn't start posting and I was stuck bussing him. E: I really lucked out with having slOosh on my team. He is the person I have played the most with, and we have butted heads a few times. He would have called me out on my meta day 1. | ||
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DoYouHas
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Scib hit: We hit you because you were the biggest threat. Nobody was on the right track, but night 2 was going to be our only real chance to kill you (because we figured you were protected N1). The only person with enough influence and momentum to get the thread out of the quagmire it had become was you. And if you happened to make a case against either me or slOosh, or even if you went after someone we didn't want lynched, you had too much town cred to be argued against safely. I had hoped that the mislynch of Forumite would slow you down and keep you from taking control but that wasn't the case. Keirathi hit: You were the only townie left in the game who seemed like you could still be objective with your scum hunting. Hence, the only real threat left. Also, the carelessness of CL and Mord's play along with how they participated in the blue discussion at the beginning had me cross them off the list of possible docs. (At the end of day 1 my blue reads were Marv for watcher, shiaopi/Keirathi/risk for doc.) Shiaopi I figured was less likely that Keirathi because he was not as cautious or as invested. Keirathi was holding himself apart from most of the cases and drama in the thread, coming in with a few self assured comments and a vote here and there. He was clearly invested in keeping the town moving forward, but also avoided drawing attention to himself. After risk died, Keirathi was the clear choice. P.S. You will note that a lot of this isn't in the mafia QT. These were my reasons for each hit, (and I had a pretty large say in it) whether or not I needed to use them to convince slOosh/prplhz. | ||
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