Newbie Mini Mafia XXI - Page 2

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:05 GMT

#293

wait what?
how is it mathematically sound to just lynch someone because you think their "active lurking" is an attitude that hurts town (explain how i am doing this)
there are 12 people and you want to use the first lynch to get rid of me for sure on a petty basis

honestly mafia is laughing at you

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:05 GMT

#294

ebwop after my 4th line: even if im town

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:07 GMT

#297

whats funny about it

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:08 GMT

#299

On July 17 2012 06:06 drwiggl3s wrote:

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What makes you think that he isn't Mafia himself?

i think hes just a really aggressive (too much so, to be honest) player im not convinced in anyway that he's either alignment

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:26 GMT

#303

well if everyones in agreement that somehow im being a bad townie i guess ill just wait and see if anyone else says anything before votes are done
because in my eyes all ive done is maintain a disinclination to accuse people due to a lack of information

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:37 GMT

#306

i think the difference is you're comparing separate games of the same person, whereas iamperfection was trying to make connections between completely different player pools

jesus im defending someone's accusation against me

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:37 GMT

#307

by the by that also applies to jinglehell's reasoning as to why i should be lynched

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:45 GMT

#312

On July 17 2012 06:41 Hapahauli wrote:
EBWOP: Oh shucks, calgar beat me to it.

didnt i beat both of you to it

well looks like mufaa is also convinced that my active lurking is a scumtell
despite the fact that i already said i dont suspect anyone
and again i dont see a reason to bandwagon me for not being careful with accusations

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:45 GMT

#313

ebwop: for being careful

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 21:50 GMT

#318

i've said it over and over all ive done is tell people that i dont accuse anyone as of yet
still dont see how that convinces anyone that im playing against town

and i already said people need to generally post more (i myself was trying to do this but didn't want to lie to do so i just said what i thought about people's accusations)

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 22:05 GMT

#321

yeah i dont see the need to put the effort into quoting each argument and pointing exactly where somebody is trying to make an accusation out of thin air when if people just looked at them they would realize there is statistically an 8/11 chance that whoever they're accusing is town because their argument was empty to begin with, in that people just pick out innocuous tidbits of a post and try to make it seem like something a mafia would say (sometimes even extrapolating to create an even less believable post, you being the repeat offender of this one)

On July 17 2012 06:48 calgar wrote:

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Our advice seems to be falling on deaf ears, here. Why don't you read my summary of iamperfection again, I think it was very suspicious and poorly written post on his part (and his only one, to boot).

? i was wrong in my response to evulrabbitz or what is this about?

also when was i non-commital in any of my posts
is there no such thing as being committed to not agreeing with you?
also how does that mean i'm never going to agree with anyone, i just don't see enough information yet because literally nothings happened and everyone in the game is pulling things out of nowhere

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 22:10 GMT

#324

On July 17 2012 06:48 calgar wrote:
You say you don't suspect anyone but it doesn't seem like you're even trying, either. You aren't helping town out at all so town is naturally going to be suspicious.

and somehow you and everyone else are helping town by "contributing" the exact same argument against me repeatedly?
people just need to post more and stop wasting their time bandwagoning me

if i saw an argument i agreed with i would say so
and if i identified to myself a scumtell i would say so
but neither of those happened and i didnt want to be inactive

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 22:14 GMT

#327

how is there even such a thing as mafia "generally" act this way because if that were true a mafia would never act that way

you guys find it really hard to believe that a townie wouldn't want to attract attention until he found more evidence or made some kind of actual connection between nights and days

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 22:17 GMT

#328

On July 17 2012 07:13 Obvious.660 wrote:
JingleHell removes his vote and puts it to tube, who has been posting a great deal but without any meaningful content except to say that he has formed (read: shared) no opinions whatsoever except that our arguments have not been compelling. If tube is town, he's weak town and a liability later in the game. If tube is mafia, he's not doing enough to defend himself and take the FOS off of himself. JingleHell's vote is smart and it's not wasted if he doesn't change it, unless tube's participation becomes more town-friendly.

How is it not fallacious to assume that someone who doesn't hold a strong opinion on day one will never contribute later?

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 22:30 GMT

#332

On July 17 2012 07:12 calgar wrote:

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No, you were right. I was just suggesting that since you had no suspicions you could see what you thought about mine. As a way to try and become a more active participant. Also, your posts are slightly difficult to understand because of awkward formatting. Could you try using sentences and punctuation?

Yeah I agree his argument had bad logic but again I think he's just making accusations out of nothing, like this segment for example:

You are by far looking the more sucpicious right now. The accusation on tube is telling to me. After the heat on you it seems you like you know want to set up a policy of lynching lurker or people that do one liners. Instead of drving the attention on one person it appears to me you are trying to get us looking at a whole group in order to confuse the town

I don't necessarily read such an argument as a scumtell because it could also just as easily be his candid attempt at scumhunting. Fact of the matter is, there's virtually no way to tell for something like this.

Also, if you think putting words into people's mouths is suspicious, take a look at JingleHell's early posts against me that sparked the entire bandwagon. He does it multiple times by saying that I basically said so and so and therefore was clearly playing against town.

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 22:38 GMT

#337

On July 17 2012 07:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm done with tube. This is going around in circles and wasting time. His current approach to responding is making my head hurt.

It's going in circles because all of you said the same thing over and over without explaining, which led me to say the same thing over and over until obvious.660 made this post:

On July 17 2012 07:26 Obvious.660 wrote:

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You need to share what you know and what you believe. It's important because if you are town and get randomly chosen (assuming no better target exists for mafia) tonight and die, you have contributed nothing of value and we will never really know why you were chosen.

Maybe they got tired of reading your posts.
Maybe they want to use you as a vehicle of suspicion on others who had formed opinions against you or defended you.

Bottom line - having no opinion is not playing town-safe, especially when you are in the spotlight.

Form an opinion, roll with it, see what information it can get you. Don't sit on the sideline and let everyone else do the work. Doesn't seem like a fun way to play the game, honestly.

actually giving me a reason to do things differently.

However, to respond to you, Obvious, isn't it obvious that nobody knows anything yet. Even if I had a role I haven't gotten to use it so I can't say anything quite for sure. My strongest opinion is that people who have very few to no posts should be the ones under heaviest suspicion.

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 22:43 GMT

#339

I can't tell if you're being serious but ask an admin or something I don't even know what coaches do and none have contacted me.

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United States1475 Posts

July 16 2012 23:09 GMT

#343

..wow
Yeah, I almost always skip punctuation and capitalization for the sake of time on the Internet, but to denounce it as unfathomable that I change that so as to be taken more seriously while I'm being bandwagoned is a pretty terrible read.

Going from no periods to periods on the suggestion of another player isn't a "Total 180", it just means I realized that some people would be more inclined to read my posts if I started formatting.
Again, ask an admin if I was coached or anything of the sort.