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how much time do you think Keir and Milton spent in your filter this game? that was all wasted time | ||
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On July 21 2012 06:33 gonzaw wrote: Yeah, that was basically what made me doubt my read on him IF YOU GUYS HAD JUST READ MY NOVELS YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT! >_> fixed that for you ;D i kid i kid | ||
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On July 21 2012 06:49 sciberbia wrote: I was really impressed that you guys lynched Mattchew on D3 with me and s&b (arguably two most townie-looking) both arguing vehemently in favor of gonzaw instead. well done! I liked the town atmosphere in general. Good contributions from all over. We took turns being right and leading the town in the right direction. It felt chaotic but our endpoint was usually good. Matt's bus helped a lot too | ||
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On July 21 2012 06:58 sciberbia wrote: Especially as I've been talking to myself since austin died LOL sciberbia, what is your read on Milton it's largely the same as yours, sciberbia | ||
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good job town | ||
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I'm looking forward to your write-up. I'd like to know what was wrong with the analysis for both sciberbia's case on Talis, and my case on Mattchew. I've already learned one thing that was wrong with my case on Mattchew, but I'll keep it to myself until after I see the write-up. | ||
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I still think town did (comparatively) a pretty good job here overall, considering the town play I see in other games around here (LVI comes to mind). Much love to my newbie brethren <3 | ||
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My example will be this post: On July 13 2012 05:15 gonzaw wrote: Disclamer: This is the "list" of scummy guys I'm not that comfortable lynching and I'd like people's opinions on them (I think it's likely there is at least 1 scum in here...hell maybe all are scum >_>) About DropBear: I already posted what I think of him: + Show Spoiler [Thoughts on DropBear] + On July 13 2012 04:27 gonzaw wrote: The thing is his behaviour struck me as odd, and I wanted to "get the ball rolling" to see what happened.. Apparently nobody even commented on it, which was what I was expecting to. I was not confident in Dropbear being scum, but I got a feeling he could. Him later just discrediting my FoS, and general aggressiveness doesn't make me very comfortable FoSing him, since it's always more likely townies that do such thing; although I'm still wary of him buddying up to marv there and jumping on the Vivax bandwagon. *sigh* However that's not decisive evidence, yet he's still one of my candidates for scum. I'll reread some stuff and respond to other stuff later (just want to have the unvote right now so I don't have a vote and another one later, and so this post isn't huge) ##Unvote: DropBear About Risen: I already posted why this was weird. He came out of nowhere just to defend himself against me, but doesn't say anything at all about it, just posted a very apparent tautology without saying anything. Another thing I found weird was: He voted Vivax (I assume) because he didn't state why he voted S&B all of a sudden. However, in that 2nd post of his, Vivax already had 2 votes (marv+Dropbear) and Vivax already explained why he voted/unvoted S&B.....yet he doesn't comment anything about it. If he's town, he knows his vote is the most important thing he has (unless he's Awesome Vigilante with Homing Heat-seeking missiles that 100% target scum), so one would think he'd pay attention to things regarding the guy he's voting. Him softly-accusing Dropbear without actually taking a stance in the subject here: And his seemingly apologetic post here (that again is just an excuse for him not to do anything) Make me suspicious of him However, his "kind" attitude and way he's posting make me wary. Like, the way he posts is very weird and would certainly call people's attention....but isn't it too obvious perhaps? Like, it seems he doesn't really care how people see him, which doesn't make me that confident in thinking he's scum. But meh, I'd appreciate people's thoughts on him About Milkton: This post seems fluffy as fuck, specially the 1st part. The "list of game I've played" is filler as well, it doesn't add anything else to the game Even after posting that he doesn't do anything later (is he still "busy" or something?) However it's his first fucking post so it's not like we can get a meaningful read out of it Well fuck, another wall of text  So....I'll try to keep things a little bit separate and post my actual "scum reads" in the next post (it's just S&B+austin+Keirathi anyways....yeah SPOILERS whatever). The portion on Risen, you cite some posts and explain how you think they are weird. As I'm reading along, I'm processing your indictment of him, matching it to my own thoughts. Then I get to the bolded portion, and I see you don't really have any convictions on this at all. I had a lot of problems with this posting style...it's like a stream of consciousness. You open the brain valve and spill a bunch of stuff out and then turn it off X minutes later and hit post. The result is you present a lot of ideas, many of which you counter by yourself, finished off by a conclusion that has lost all meaning because it has no foundation to stand on. That back and forth you do with yourself needs to happen in your head. You need to arrive at a single endpoint prior to posting, and present evidence that supports it. If you can't do this, then you probably shouldn't be writing a wall of text on this player at this time. The more I saw you doing this, the more I wanted to tune you out. I really had to force myself to grind through your stuff to find where you stood on things. I seriously love your effort though...if you could find a way that works for you to narrow your posting down such that is concise and representative of your strongest convictions, then it would both make it easier for people to read you, and make it easier for town to get some use out of your best reads. | ||
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Just pointing things out is not enough, you need to justify why those things were worth pointing out in the first place. You need to tie them together into some form of final interpretation. Taking a stance on something with sound reasoning and good word economy is a good way to get people to listen to you. People will continue to listen to you even if you change your mind, provided you can explain/it is clear why you are doing so. This is a lot better than presenting two conflicting lines of thought and coming out on the other side totally luke-warm. Posts like the one I highlighted on day 1 set the tone for how people are going to gauge what you have to say. If you are presenting big blocks of 'I don't know,' they may be inclined to read you until they have a town read they are reasonably sure of and then mostly tune you out, or worse, they will begin to suspect you. This is what I feel happened this game. Your posts remained lengthy, but you took firmer stances as the game went on. By that point though, people either thought you were scum, or thought this was more of the same. I'm no guru by any means, so take this with a grain of salt of course. Also I hope you don't view this as me trying to debase you Hopefully some of my thoughts are constructive for you. I have plenty to learn from this game myself. | ||
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