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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#1294
Dropbear, did you read my case on Mattchew?
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 14:37 GMT
#1306
Dropbear, its important to realize that Matt didn't go all out to push gonzaw until I pointed out how it was weird that he wasn't.

There is a difference, its definitely there.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 14:51 GMT
#1313
also how are people ignoring the part of my case where Mattchew talks about his read on Risen?

--read on Risen is based largely on consistency and logic
--is Risen still displaying consistency and logic Mattchew?
--not exactly, but that doesnt change my read in any way

wtf????
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 14:58 GMT
#1316
nope, here's what you said

On July 19 2012 07:16 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 07:04 s0Lstice wrote:
On July 17 2012 11:04 Mattchew wrote:
I just read Risen's entire filter, and couldn't find any inconsistencies or holes in logic. Even his read on me I can't really argue with. I haven't been as active as I should this game and while I don't think I have tried to fly under the radar, I could see where one may draw that conclusion.

His reads are constantly evolving and changing more WAY more than when I played with him as scum, and he basically started and got Vivax lynched. While I didn't agree with the lynch + Show Spoiler +
On July 13 2012 03:27 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 03:23 marvellosity wrote:
What do you see in Vivax that makes you think he might be town?

his effort and his not giving a fuck style

he didn't push it in a scummy way. Late voters of Vivax should actually be looked at more strongly.

This leads me to my next scum candidate.

Gonzaw.

I was waiting to push this until Talis flipped because A. I wanted to see if he was scum and B. I wanted to keep the conversation on Talis.

I will make my case before deadline tomorrow. I have a lot of it mapped out in my head just not written down yet and I want to keep up with the fast pace of Bureaurcracy Mafia tonight


Is this statement still true Mattchew?

Not exactly, because of his gonzaw play which I don't fully understand, but I don't think that changes my read on him in anyway


not changing in any way means....not changing in any way. I don't think there's much wiggle room there.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 15:52 GMT
#1325
sciberbia I don't see how that couldn't be two scummers talking to eachother.

mattchew- I still find things about gonzaw that are scummy. I am much more confident in my read on you though, and I don't think it's likely that you are partners.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 15:55 GMT
#1326
also, concerning Tali's treatment of gonzaw...consider this

scum Talis is doing what he can to avoid the attention of the most active and verbose town player in the thread.

it's the exact opposite of why some people believe Dropbear is town....he didn't mind holding gonzaw's nose to the grind-stone
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 17:40 GMT
#1361
Except you barely talked to s&b all day. You said it was because you were avoiding attention from him.

So which is it?
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 18:11 GMT
#1373
On July 20 2012 02:35 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 02:31 Keirathi wrote:
Basically what I'm saying is that if they DO have a roleblocker, they have no reason to ever kill you. If they have a framer, they don't have much reason to kill you tonight unless gonzaw is scum since you already made it clear you plan to investigate him when I die.

Lol wtf is this? If you're town you're doing a horrible job defending yourself. If they have rb I claim rb'd and get lynched tomorrow to confirm. If they have framer he better do a good job of guessing bc a smart cop will place his investigations where they aren't expected when there's a possible framer. Night one I almost literally threw a dart at a board of people to determine my check. If there is a framer and they want to let me live he and I will be doing the dance of wifom.


The bolded is you saying that during N1, you chose almost at random who to check.

Now look at this:

On July 18 2012 09:31 s0Lstice wrote:
cool

##unvote

while I think about that one. I went through your day one filter and saw pretty much nothing on s&b. this is your last post before the day post:

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 06:32 Risen wrote:
If I die, be suspicious of anyone who hard defended Vivax. No one should have felt he was towny (only scum would be defending him hard because they're the ones who KNOW he's town, like I did with VE day 1 of my last scum game. Gave me town cred up the wazoo yo), and be even more wary of anyone who was hard defending him and ended up on him instead of DropBear. Day post in 30 mins.


in fact you called a lot of people scummy, but never him


On July 18 2012 09:44 Risen wrote:
Yup I've been focusing on not being shot, but with mason claim (provided it isn't you or s&b) we pretty much have this game in the bag. Not sure how that makes you unvote gonzaw, though, unless you think the scum team is s&b and I, in which case that's quite the about face. Regardless, I think you have to lynch gonzaw or me today. I'll flip cop and then you lynch gonzaw or you lynch gonzaw and he flips either town or scum, if scum I die at night b/c scum can't afford me checking around and if town it's pretty WIFOM on whether scum lets me live another night so I get lynched the next night.


Either you made your decision on who to check day 1, and didn't speak to him for fear of getting shot, or you decided at random on N1 to s&b, which you are asserting now.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 18:19 GMT
#1380
I want to lynch you Matt. I've made a case, and pushed people, but they don't agree. Oh well for now.

If it's not you then I'd be cool with killing Risen. The more Risen talks, the worse his cop claim looks. Do you want to kill Risen?

ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 18:30 GMT
#1387
Did nobody else consider the fact that Marv could have been RB'ed + NK'd on night 1? happens all the time
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 18:43 GMT
#1389
I could be wrong, but I believe if he is killed as a vig his shot will still go through despite his NK?

Marv brought up vig shots a few times, so they would have reason to suspect him for being a vig.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 18:51 GMT
#1393
s&b, did you go look at LVI yet and look at Matt's town play there?
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 20:43 GMT
#1410
It is not too late to lynch mattchew gentlemen. A lot has been said on his scumminess. I strongly recommend that we go this direction.

Its getting close though, we need a lynch.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#1415
@sciberbia

I will only vote for gonzaw if it's between that and a no-lynch
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 20:52 GMT
#1416
s&b, this is the second time I'm asking you this, did you go read LVI where Mattchew is town like I asked you to?
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 21:15 GMT
#1423
S&b, scib, keir

Are you guys really that averse to a mattchew lynch? There is nothing scummy in his play that has been pointed out that would draw your vote, especisally considering how split we are?
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 21:18 GMT
#1426
Sorry Keir I'm on my phone. Just saw it
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 21:27 GMT
#1431
Keir your vote would give us 4. I'd ask you to do so now
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 21:31 GMT
#1433
Risen are you ready to vote mattchew?
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 19 2012 21:44 GMT
#1463
I'm feeling really good about this. That was some titanic resistance to get to 5 votes.
ATOBTTR
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