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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 07:32 GMT
#3329
damn telephone.

meapak do it now. i bet you claim vt :-D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 07:33 GMT
#3330
GUYS i mistyped that. i already corrected myself. no mass roleclaim. no lynch based on roles.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 07:36 GMT
#3332
good. if you think i am now afraid that you're medic, you're wrong :D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 07:45 GMT
#3334
we have a case. If you read the thread, you will find it.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 07:54 GMT
#3336
hey! It's not my fault that we ended up on 2 different teams to consecutive games. :D
Seriously Meapak, you're the realistic lynchtarget today.

It's nothing personal Meapak, it's purely business.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 07:59 GMT
#3337
On July 25 2012 16:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 16:45 supersoft wrote:
we have a case. If you read the thread, you will find it.

lol.

You're a good player supersoft but your weakness is that you sometimes get hopelessly arrogant. You don't have a case, I'm not getting lynched.

Moving on how about we hear from you on who you'd realistically like to lynch today.


btw. You're a good player, too. But i couldn't see that this game. That's one main allegation.
You're not town, simply because you didn't reach your own standart.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 08:14 GMT
#3340
On July 25 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:21 HiroPro wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:18 supersoft wrote:
We are not lynching Zealos tomorrow. We lynch Meapak


Explain the case to me then please.

He has been very passive and his behavior near day 1 lynch deadline was quite suspicious. First he wanted to switch from BH to Gonzaw because mattchew's vote was "stuck" on gonzaw. He also stated that he was fine with lynching either BH or Gonzaw and cites Sandroba's support being one of his reasons for support gonzaw lynch. However, after the no-lynch he started the blame game in a very noncommittal manner, vaguely alluding to people responsible for the gonzaw wagon when BH and austin wagons were "well established". Now, who is responsible for Gonzaw wagon? Sandroba and Probulous, the former who is considered nearly confirmed town by this point! He also says people who "threw their vote away" are also under scrutiny, but they certainly didn't come under any scrutiny from Mr. Meapak.

It's also worth nothing that Meapak hadn't voted at all until he showed up 45 minutes before the lynch when BH wagon was the dominant one. He had to vote, so he pretty much had no choice but to vote BH at the time.

It doesn't get much more passive than this:

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:01 HiroPro wrote:
MZ, you think Zealos is scum?

I do actually. He came in, was under some pressure, and then promptly checked out once he was safe. To me that's always extremely scummy. If you were a serious lynch target you had better work your ass off to give town reason to keep you around next time. Zealos hasn't done that.


Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:
I think Zealos is scum! The literal non-thread-reading and utter garbage that tries to look town but isn't makes him like my #1 scumread.

Well that's nice to know, I'd appreciate if you wrote out a case. You're lucky to not be dying today so I think you should make some serious contributions to give people reasons to rethink their position on you.


At the time Meapak is still sure that BH is mafia (though for some reason he writes a case on Rastaban instaed), but right after saying he thinks Zealos is mafia he weakly asks BH to write a case on Zealos.

Now he, just like Palmar was, is barely posting and doesn't seem to care at all.


On July 25 2012 06:32 marvellosity wrote:
Oki doki, here are my thoughts (so you can hold me accountable, VE )

Meapak_Ziph: Yeah, there's a high likelihood he's scum. syllogism pre-empted what I was going to say about him a couple of pages ago:

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:21 HiroPro wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:18 supersoft wrote:
We are not lynching Zealos tomorrow. We lynch Meapak


Explain the case to me then please.

He has been very passive and his behavior near day 1 lynch deadline was quite suspicious. First he wanted to switch from BH to Gonzaw because mattchew's vote was "stuck" on gonzaw. He also stated that he was fine with lynching either BH or Gonzaw and cites Sandroba's support being one of his reasons for support gonzaw lynch. However, after the no-lynch he started the blame game in a very noncommittal manner, vaguely alluding to people responsible for the gonzaw wagon when BH and austin wagons were "well established". Now, who is responsible for Gonzaw wagon? Sandroba and Probulous, the former who is considered nearly confirmed town by this point! He also says people who "threw their vote away" are also under scrutiny, but they certainly didn't come under any scrutiny from Mr. Meapak.

It's also worth nothing that Meapak hadn't voted at all until he showed up 45 minutes before the lynch when BH wagon was the dominant one. He had to vote, so he pretty much had no choice but to vote BH at the time.

It doesn't get much more passive than this:

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:01 HiroPro wrote:
MZ, you think Zealos is scum?

I do actually. He came in, was under some pressure, and then promptly checked out once he was safe. To me that's always extremely scummy. If you were a serious lynch target you had better work your ass off to give town reason to keep you around next time. Zealos hasn't done that.


Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:
I think Zealos is scum! The literal non-thread-reading and utter garbage that tries to look town but isn't makes him like my #1 scumread.

Well that's nice to know, I'd appreciate if you wrote out a case. You're lucky to not be dying today so I think you should make some serious contributions to give people reasons to rethink their position on you.


At the time Meapak is still sure that BH is mafia (though for some reason he writes a case on Rastaban instaed), but right after saying he thinks Zealos is mafia he weakly asks BH to write a case on Zealos.

Now he, just like Palmar was, is barely posting and doesn't seem to care at all.


Passivity is the name of the game. I have two recent memories of Meapak playing town, that is Liar mafia and LV. In Liar Mafia Meapak was a central figure, being a part of the meapak/gonzaw/ET town circle. More pertinently, in LV he believed he had found scum in VisceraEyes, and what did he do? He made a big case and then relentlessly pushed VE until he got his lynch. We have none of this here. Here he has 'found scum' in rastaban and makes a case. Except he never pushes anyone to lynch rastaban, even though he pops up on occasion to go "yeah rastaban is still scum" and the like. Meapak is uninvested and scum.


On July 22 2012 09:25 Katina wrote:
Meapak: Picks on easy targets for the most part. The only one he hard pushs is rastaban who hasn't been too active this game. He makes for an easy target. Meapak continues to push rastaban when it's clear that no one is going to go for it. His Mafia list is pretty meh, As I said the only hard read he has been pushing is rastaban to try and make it look like he's scum hunting so he doesn't draw too much suspicion.


if you somehow didn't catch it, meapak :-D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 08:21 GMT
#3342
Second allegation:

Gamebalance and math:
alive:

11. Supersoft town
15. syllogism town
7. VisceraEyes killed scum very unlikely scum when Prob is scum
10. Meapak_Ziphh
8. Bill Murray townread (can't be executive)
18. Chezinu town
4. Probulous killed scum very unlikely scum when VE is scum

dead
25. RebirthofLegend town
19. Kurumi town
13. Wherebugsgo town
3. Sandroba town
16. GGQ town
26. Palmar scum
6. Foolishness scum


Third allegation:

you have no abilitys. We have 2 executives missing. Foolishness CEO flip indicates, that good players are in key positions.


Fourth allegation:

Foolishness refused to mention you, even though you were discussed day1.
Syllo attacked you day1 and got attacked by foolish and palmar.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 08:48 GMT
#3348
On July 25 2012 17:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
sigh I guess I better do this one real quick as well.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 17:21 supersoft wrote:
Second allegation:

Gamebalance and math:
alive:

11. Supersoft town
15. syllogism town
7. VisceraEyes killed scum very unlikely scum when Prob is scum
10. Meapak_Ziphh
8. Bill Murray townread (can't be executive)
18. Chezinu town
4. Probulous killed scum very unlikely scum when VE is scum

dead
25. RebirthofLegend town
19. Kurumi town
13. Wherebugsgo town
3. Sandroba town
16. GGQ town
26. Palmar scum
6. Foolishness scum

Setup speculation=bullshit

Third allegation:

you have no abilitys. We have 2 executives missing. Foolishness CEO flip indicates, that good players are in key positions.

Setup speculation=bullshit

Fourth allegation:

Foolishness refused to mention you, even though you were discussed day1.
Syllo attacked you day1 and got attacked by foolish and palmar.

This proves what? This logic is retarded. Foolishness was a CEO and Palmar was a goon. There's literally no way for them to have planned that. Also foolishness never mentioned a lot of people lol, that's a dumb point


You gotta do better than this supersoft.


i could add some colors to make the design more appealing...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 08:55 GMT
#3350
gonzaw should roleclaim as well.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 09:35 GMT
#3354
gonzaw is no thread compared to meapak. if we let him get away like that today we give town a wrong signal. and if we dont survive until tomorrow, he might use this to his advantage and to cast doubt. we have to get rid of him as long as we're still alive.
i am not at all disagreeing with a gonzawlynch, but i think he can wait since he has no pull at all.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 09:36 GMT
#3355
On July 25 2012 18:35 supersoft wrote:
gonzaw is no threat*** compared to meapak. if we let him get away like that today we give town a wrong signal. and if we dont survive until tomorrow, he might use this to his advantage and to cast doubt. we have to get rid of him as long as we're still alive.
i am not at all disagreeing with a gonzawlynch, but i think he can wait since he has no pull at all.


***fixd
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 10:05 GMT
#3362
On July 25 2012 18:52 risk.nuke wrote:
Supersoft what kind of argument is that? Kill MZ because if every sensible person dies he's going to manipulate the town if he's scum. What's with the damn unwillingness to lynch actuall scum. We got people I've felt like nearly everyone agrees are scummy, like zealous or rastaban but somehow they don't die.

I'm going to vote Zealous now and everyone who's interested in killing scum should join in.
##Vote Zealous


that's not the reason why i want to lynch him.
that's the reason why i want to lynch him first.

Why I want to lynch him can be found here:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2012 16:59 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 16:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 25 2012 16:45 supersoft wrote:
we have a case. If you read the thread, you will find it.

lol.

You're a good player supersoft but your weakness is that you sometimes get hopelessly arrogant. You don't have a case, I'm not getting lynched.

Moving on how about we hear from you on who you'd realistically like to lynch today.


btw. You're a good player, too. But i couldn't see that this game. That's one main allegation.
You're not town, simply because you didn't reach your own standart.


On July 25 2012 17:14 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:21 HiroPro wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:18 supersoft wrote:
We are not lynching Zealos tomorrow. We lynch Meapak


Explain the case to me then please.

He has been very passive and his behavior near day 1 lynch deadline was quite suspicious. First he wanted to switch from BH to Gonzaw because mattchew's vote was "stuck" on gonzaw. He also stated that he was fine with lynching either BH or Gonzaw and cites Sandroba's support being one of his reasons for support gonzaw lynch. However, after the no-lynch he started the blame game in a very noncommittal manner, vaguely alluding to people responsible for the gonzaw wagon when BH and austin wagons were "well established". Now, who is responsible for Gonzaw wagon? Sandroba and Probulous, the former who is considered nearly confirmed town by this point! He also says people who "threw their vote away" are also under scrutiny, but they certainly didn't come under any scrutiny from Mr. Meapak.

It's also worth nothing that Meapak hadn't voted at all until he showed up 45 minutes before the lynch when BH wagon was the dominant one. He had to vote, so he pretty much had no choice but to vote BH at the time.

It doesn't get much more passive than this:

On July 20 2012 04:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:01 HiroPro wrote:
MZ, you think Zealos is scum?

I do actually. He came in, was under some pressure, and then promptly checked out once he was safe. To me that's always extremely scummy. If you were a serious lynch target you had better work your ass off to give town reason to keep you around next time. Zealos hasn't done that.


On July 20 2012 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:
I think Zealos is scum! The literal non-thread-reading and utter garbage that tries to look town but isn't makes him like my #1 scumread.

Well that's nice to know, I'd appreciate if you wrote out a case. You're lucky to not be dying today so I think you should make some serious contributions to give people reasons to rethink their position on you.


At the time Meapak is still sure that BH is mafia (though for some reason he writes a case on Rastaban instaed), but right after saying he thinks Zealos is mafia he weakly asks BH to write a case on Zealos.

Now he, just like Palmar was, is barely posting and doesn't seem to care at all.


Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 06:32 marvellosity wrote:
Oki doki, here are my thoughts (so you can hold me accountable, VE )

Meapak_Ziph: Yeah, there's a high likelihood he's scum. syllogism pre-empted what I was going to say about him a couple of pages ago:

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:21 HiroPro wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:18 supersoft wrote:
We are not lynching Zealos tomorrow. We lynch Meapak


Explain the case to me then please.

He has been very passive and his behavior near day 1 lynch deadline was quite suspicious. First he wanted to switch from BH to Gonzaw because mattchew's vote was "stuck" on gonzaw. He also stated that he was fine with lynching either BH or Gonzaw and cites Sandroba's support being one of his reasons for support gonzaw lynch. However, after the no-lynch he started the blame game in a very noncommittal manner, vaguely alluding to people responsible for the gonzaw wagon when BH and austin wagons were "well established". Now, who is responsible for Gonzaw wagon? Sandroba and Probulous, the former who is considered nearly confirmed town by this point! He also says people who "threw their vote away" are also under scrutiny, but they certainly didn't come under any scrutiny from Mr. Meapak.

It's also worth nothing that Meapak hadn't voted at all until he showed up 45 minutes before the lynch when BH wagon was the dominant one. He had to vote, so he pretty much had no choice but to vote BH at the time.

It doesn't get much more passive than this:

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:01 HiroPro wrote:
MZ, you think Zealos is scum?

I do actually. He came in, was under some pressure, and then promptly checked out once he was safe. To me that's always extremely scummy. If you were a serious lynch target you had better work your ass off to give town reason to keep you around next time. Zealos hasn't done that.


Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:
I think Zealos is scum! The literal non-thread-reading and utter garbage that tries to look town but isn't makes him like my #1 scumread.

Well that's nice to know, I'd appreciate if you wrote out a case. You're lucky to not be dying today so I think you should make some serious contributions to give people reasons to rethink their position on you.


At the time Meapak is still sure that BH is mafia (though for some reason he writes a case on Rastaban instaed), but right after saying he thinks Zealos is mafia he weakly asks BH to write a case on Zealos.

Now he, just like Palmar was, is barely posting and doesn't seem to care at all.


Passivity is the name of the game. I have two recent memories of Meapak playing town, that is Liar mafia and LV. In Liar Mafia Meapak was a central figure, being a part of the meapak/gonzaw/ET town circle. More pertinently, in LV he believed he had found scum in VisceraEyes, and what did he do? He made a big case and then relentlessly pushed VE until he got his lynch. We have none of this here. Here he has 'found scum' in rastaban and makes a case. Except he never pushes anyone to lynch rastaban, even though he pops up on occasion to go "yeah rastaban is still scum" and the like. Meapak is uninvested and scum.


Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:25 Katina wrote:
Meapak: Picks on easy targets for the most part. The only one he hard pushs is rastaban who hasn't been too active this game. He makes for an easy target. Meapak continues to push rastaban when it's clear that no one is going to go for it. His Mafia list is pretty meh, As I said the only hard read he has been pushing is rastaban to try and make it look like he's scum hunting so he doesn't draw too much suspicion.


if you somehow didn't catch it, meapak :-D


On July 25 2012 17:21 supersoft wrote:
Second allegation:

Gamebalance and math:
alive:

11. Supersoft town
15. syllogism town
7. VisceraEyes killed scum very unlikely scum when Prob is scum
10. Meapak_Ziphh
8. Bill Murray townread (can't be executive)
18. Chezinu town
4. Probulous killed scum very unlikely scum when VE is scum

dead
25. RebirthofLegend town
19. Kurumi town
13. Wherebugsgo town
3. Sandroba town
16. GGQ town
26. Palmar scum
6. Foolishness scum


Third allegation:

you have no abilitys. We have 2 executives missing. Foolishness CEO flip indicates, that good players are in key positions.


Fourth allegation:

Foolishness refused to mention you, even though you were discussed day1.
Syllo attacked you day1 and got attacked by foolish and palmar.

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 10:44 GMT
#3364
Suicidal Salaryman: (Dreamflower)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 10:45 GMT
#3365
we have not the same names as our scum counterparts...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 10:57 GMT
#3369
chez also claims to have the same name as sandroba in this PM viscera posted...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 11:18 GMT
#3372
VE and mattchew move your votes to meapak or gonzaw.
todays lynch is between these two.

the gonzawcase is also rocksolid.
@marvel, I really am wondering what further reasoning you're expecting from syllo. Read through his filter...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 12:14 GMT
#3380
you can decide between mz and gonzaw.
i propose that everyone decides between these two persons in the next 10 hours.
after that the votes from the one who got a lesser amount of votes have to be moved to the other guy.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 12:16 GMT
#3381
i don't care that much tbh, since both are very very likely scum.
however mz is slightly scummier in my eyes.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 25 2012 12:58 GMT
#3383
lay your vote down now. all of you.
mz or gonzaw. no zealos or chezinu or whatever
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