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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 21 2012 21:32 GMT
#2545
On July 22 2012 06:18 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:12 supersoft wrote:
I cannot remember any game i played with GGQ. Can anyone link me one?

GGQ never posts in any of the games he joins, so linking wouldn't do much


okay you help me now.

I have a problem with three things:

1.
On July 22 2012 05:26 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 14:25 Foolishness wrote:
God dammit I was playing league of legends then had to step out quickly. What the heck happened


I never miss lynches if i am awake. It just never happens.

If you really are town, you're doing it wrong man.


Do you buy his story?


2. Palmar defending BH.

On July 17 2012 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh my lord, you're right. Syllo's managed to make several posts without actually comitting to anything at all. I take it all back, he's the scum here. He agrees with Sandro on me, but doesn't do anything about it. He would "like to lynch" probulous, but doesn't vote him.

I've seen the light.

##unvote
##vote: syllogism


die scum



On July 17 2012 01:38 Blazinghand wrote:
NO! NO THIS ONE MAKES SENSE. Just check out his filter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=102651

Ok so he starts off with irrelevant questions that look like pressure but aren't (link), then continues by saying that HE WANTS TO LYNCH PROBULOUS WITHOUT VOTING HIM (link), then states I'm scum but hides behind another dude's case and doesn't vote me! (link).

This is a man with no strong opinions except, apparently, that everyone is scum but he's not voting anyone. Scummy. Scum.


is this excitement fake?

and what about this:

On July 17 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote:
Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom.


does he really think you're scum?

_________________________________________

can both of them be scum?
_________________________________________


3.

On July 22 2012 05:18 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 05:14 supersoft wrote:
yeah sure, i fixed that.

____________________________________


On July 22 2012 04:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:32 Foolishness wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar two proven messenger roles that can target town. One is sum right? Its Chezinu imo imo.

Weren't you just trying to tell us sandroba was scum?


AS usual, not reading the thread. It all revolved around my paranoid belief that sandroba was bussing his teammates and was an executive. This was disproven A) by him messaging me and B) by Kurumi flipping town.

Keep up Foolish, we can't carry you all game. Gonna have to do something bro.

BM has claimed some kind of vote-stealer. The fact that he claims it gives me hope that he's town, because I can see scum wanting to hide that power until necessary (Read: TL Mafia XLVIII). Jackal essentially won the game for us with it after we all mass-scum-claimed. *shrug*

He's calling me scum, but I think he's just misguided. He doesn't believe it strongly enough to push my lynch, and others have expressed at least passing suspicion of me (Mattchew, layabout?, marvellosity). Would scumBM not have pushed my lynch under these conditions if he were "suspicious" of me?




Foolish can you comment on these points on BM I raised?


He refuses to, because he realized he has this exact power on his CEO-powersheet. And now he thinks "what have i done"

Man town's these days are brutal, no wonder so many people ragequit.
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 16:06 Protactinium wrote:
The three executive officers have no innate abilities.


townslip?
he obviously doesnt get what i mean with the CEO-powersheet. Is he CEO and dumb or is this too hard to understand and his reaction a nulltell?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 21 2012 22:06 GMT
#2551
On July 22 2012 07:04 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 07:00 Foolishness wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:56 syllogism wrote:
1. Is the implication of this question that Foolishness knows/thinks BH is mafia (maybe) and thus "stepped out/spent his time rather playing LoL"? I don't believe that he didn't have time to change his vote at some point after promising, so I don't believe his story.

2. Most of the things BH posts feel fake to me, but that's not among the ones I would highlight.

It is conceivable that Palmar thought that I was mafia very early on, but it's pretty much impossible by now unless he hasn't read anything since

They can and I think are both mafia

3. No.

Katina can actually vouch for my absence. Stop nitpicking at retarded things.

Even if that's the case, I don't believe you at no point had a few minutes to spare to move your vote somewhere useful. Yes, I do believe it's possible that you had to "step out" for a while, but before that you were playing LoL and clearly not very interested in helping town.


how can katina do that? is she your girlfriend? ^_^
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 21 2012 22:57 GMT
#2555
On July 22 2012 06:56 syllogism wrote:
It is conceivable that Palmar thought that I was mafia very early on, but it's pretty much impossible by now unless he hasn't read anything since

They can and I think are both mafia


So you think as mafia he thinks you're mafia and he accuses you.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 21 2012 23:07 GMT
#2558
On July 22 2012 08:03 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 07:57 supersoft wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:56 syllogism wrote:
It is conceivable that Palmar thought that I was mafia very early on, but it's pretty much impossible by now unless he hasn't read anything since

They can and I think are both mafia


So you think as mafia he thinks you're mafia and he accuses you.

I said that it's conceivable and would be an attempt to convey to me that he is mafia. It was a random vote and he put 0 effort into actually pushing the point. What a pointless question


alright. One last question. Who would you shoot tonight, as scum?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 21 2012 23:10 GMT
#2560
Do you think i am town?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 21 2012 23:41 GMT
#2563
Katina, is it true that foolish had no time to be around for the day1 lynch?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 21 2012 23:42 GMT
#2564
On July 22 2012 08:41 supersoft wrote:
Katina, is it true that foolish had no time to be around for the day1 lynch?


ah no better don't answer this. It's somehow cheating and I don't really buy it no matter what.
Everyone has a smartphone these days. If you're awake, there is no way you're not avaliable except something really bad happens.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 00:17 GMT
#2573
wooooooooops
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 00:33 GMT
#2584
Palmar and Meapak are the executives. good night.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 07:45 GMT
#2623
On July 22 2012 14:05 slOosh wrote:
Awesome on two counts!

I am a Crazed Employee - basically a delayed 1 shot vig, and I targetted Foolishness last night. As you know I've been spending a majority of my time figuring him out and was wavering because he had a good case on BM which I agree with, yet chose to do exactly that a case on BM. I was torn on trying to figure out meta and trusting people's reads, but VE's grilling brought out cold hard, in-thread contradictions that I understand and trust.

Probulous I'm assuming is some sort of kingmaker (?) - and he made VE king to lynch BH. Prob has also said that Chezinu is some sort of rolecop:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 10:47 Probulous wrote:
Time to read that Ole foolish filter. I don't think Chez is scum. He worked out my role but never outed it. I think he can check the names of roles because he correctly emphasised the first three letters of mine to me and only me.

Prob is it clear from your role name what your ability is? Because from a minion perspective, the knowledge of someone's role is hard to use - even if you knew someone was blue you can only submit the name to CEO kill list, and outting something like that isn't a town thing to do in the first place. But I also thought he was some sort of messenger role?

Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 03:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:20 Palmar wrote:
I haven't caught up since last night. Did Chez ever claim messenger role?

The way Chez does, yes. And he sent me a message so...

I forgot who said it (was quite recently) that scum and town may have mirror/similar abilities. Sandroba was a clear instance of a town messenger - use ability to find out scum. Chezinu or whoever is sending seems like they are sending messages of confusion (house of Chezinu etc.). In any case I still have to do more rereading & filtering in light of the new information influx.

Lastly, I think that the traitorous employee should claim. As I understand it it's like a self-aware miller who wins with town but numbers count with scum. Since mafia have to kill all town they are torn having a "confirmed town" alive and wasting their 1 KP on a useless kill (doesn't count to their wincon), and have lost their means of instantly killing him, plus the possible additional benefits of seeing scum strategies and redacted knowledge through outed PMs can be huge.



You didn't kill foolishness.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 10:12 GMT
#2628
yes i shot foolishness and i am the towndreamflower.
However it's possible, that be both shot him. vigs dont get their bullets back when 2 shot the same target.
But I still don't buy it.
He didn't shoot foolishness.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 10:32 GMT
#2630
yes. his claim looks extremely fake. i bet crazed employee is his fake-PM.
All scummembers have a fakePM i bet his is that crazed employee.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 11:14 GMT
#2634
Original Message From Protactinium:
Nope

Show nested quote +
Original Message From supersoft:

hey one question: if 2 vigs shoot one target, does the vig, who sent in his shot later, get is bullet back


because my counterclaim doesn't confirm him as scum.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 11:30 GMT
#2638
On July 22 2012 20:24 Bill Murray wrote:
but, yeah, i'm stealing sloosh's vote, and seeing if he has any unused powers i can use (then we'll know he's lying)


i agree with that.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#2640
On July 22 2012 21:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 19:12 supersoft wrote:
yes i shot foolishness and i am the towndreamflower.
However it's possible, that be both shot him. vigs dont get their bullets back when 2 shot the same target.
But I still don't buy it.
He didn't shoot foolishness.


why would he claim if he knew he was going to get counter-claimed? he would want some kinda 1 for 1??


the question is, did he know that you don't get your bullets back. I posted it earlier, but more like a question.
if you know that, it's no 1v1.
The problem I have with him, is the way he claimes his shot.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 12:22 GMT
#2643
i have one shot and i die if i hit a townie. look at BHs PM. Mine is pretty similar.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 12:34 GMT
#2646
by the way. If sloosh already targeted foolishness night1. He must claim his shot before the end of night2.
I waited until 5 minutes before the end of n2 to send my shot in. What an idiot if he's town.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 12:36 GMT
#2648
So he's a vig that can shoot from night 2 on? mhm sure. This role fits perfectly into the setup. Who else has an ability you can only use from night2 onwards?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 12:39 GMT
#2652
lol you're right. I made so many mistakes already. I shouldn't have counterclaimed instantly. I should have waited and ask him some things. If he's scum faking it, no counterclaim would have been unexpected.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 22 2012 12:45 GMT
#2656
On July 22 2012 21:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I guess the question is: why didn't either of you shoot Kurumi N1? We wasted our D2 lynch because of you guys, you WERE under specific orders to open fire.

##Unvote: Chezinu
##Vote: Palmar


Sup bro? Suuuuup?

I'm doing a little rereading over the course of today

Aside from myself and Probulous I seem to recall others unwilling to lynch BH D1 when gonzaw and he were on the block. I'm going back and specifically rereading that portion of the game to see if there's anything there...the Chairman of the Board knew BH would flip scum.

Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 10:25 Katina wrote:
VE, what is your role?


Why do you ask dear?


2 reasons:

1. My shot is more valuable than a lynch. I shot foolishness, the CEO.

2. I die if i hit a townie.
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