EPTi thought it was fishy
im willing to vote him with you, supersoft
if you killed Foolishness, you need to vote him
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i thought it was fishy im willing to vote him with you, supersoft if you killed Foolishness, you need to vote him | ||
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nuke... kingmaker... 2 vigs? not buying it. | ||
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HiroPro is right, man I'm not going to bed until the mod comes around, and I see if Sloosh has any "other" abilities I have a suspicion I'm about to see a scum ability :p | ||
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On July 22 2012 21:39 supersoft wrote: lol you're right. I made so many mistakes already. I shouldn't have counterclaimed instantly. I should have waited and ask him some things. If he's scum faking it, no counterclaim would have been unexpected. No; I disagree I like that you counterclaimed instantly We are in my comfort zone, now. You waiting and asking him things, in this case, was unnecessary it would help if this was most mafia forums, but on TL people are usually above average intelligence, if not genius We will be able to deduce what happened... like foolishness said, he understands why people have been ragequitting lately, because the quality of TL town has gone up soooo much from when I was playing a few years ago, and it was a laughingstock, and worse than mafiascum's by far. That is not the case now. You grilling might be necessary on EM for cred., might buy you a few votes on some other forums, but on TL I just don't see a need... Linguistically, your claim was short, and to the point. Considering the TIMING of it, and you asking Katina questions about Foolishness (why was Katina defending Foolishness...?*).../tangent you look really good from the exchange. You were definitely all over suspiciousness of him, and I don't blame you - I was suspicious of him myself - to the point I forced him to create a substantial case against me... but, like i said, the TIMING of your suspiciousness into the vig shot right after you were questioning about him? It just looks really good on you You are right in that we have given Sloosh a valuable deflection opportunity, but he is definitely on my short list after that claim tl;dr: I don't feel like it was bad play whatsoever given the caliber of the game we are in *this whole incident makes me suspect VE and Katina way more (VE I have had some misgivings about, and the BH thing could be a bus) If Katina flips scum, it is likely she had possible mafia interaction regarding Foolishness with VE, but it would go against the original meta-feel I have, and I'm rarely wrong about her. If Katina is town, I feel like VE is town - which is more likely - given the kingmaker shit. Could Katina have been buddied by VE scum? doubtful, but possible. I don't think it's a bus. BM - town PR supersoft - town PR VE - town PR/civilian Katina - town PR/civilian syllogism - helpful leaning town rastaban - meta leaning town want to lynch: palmar, GGQ, sloosh Palmar - seems popular, trust syllogism/marvel/whoevers meta they brought up Have seen a way more active Palmar as town Activity is fairly null, though lets you have a pretty good case, because it is not completely null. Mafia definitely are less active, and lurk more, but there are exceptions. GGQ - how is this guy not modkilled yet? Might be a waste of a lynch, but barring some weird mechanic, I doubt we will be forced to dirty our fingers. If he comes back, isn't modkilled, and continues to not contribute... yeah. In his defense, to play the devil's advocate, His d1 vote on BH looks good, and is the only reason (besides potential modkill [obvious]) that I didn't steal his vote Sloosh - doubt his claim, counterclaimed by SS, and SS didn't NEED to CC -at all-. On July 22 2012 21:42 HiroPro wrote: Bill, do you see any ability that they have - not just in-thread/day abilities? only in thread/day ones, yeah On July 22 2012 21:43 VisceraEyes wrote: I guess the question is: why didn't either of you shoot Kurumi N1? We wasted our D2 lynch because of you guys, you WERE under specific orders to open fire. ##Unvote: Chezinu ##Vote: Palmar Sup bro? Suuuuup? I'm doing a little rereading over the course of today Aside from myself and Probulous I seem to recall others unwilling to lynch BH D1 when gonzaw and he were on the block. I'm going back and specifically rereading that portion of the game to see if there's anything there...the Chairman of the Board knew BH would flip scum. Why do you ask dear? ill speak up here i had not one but TWO votes on BH at certain points to ensure a lynch furthermore, given foolishness pushing me so hard, my slot is looking pretty good  to top it off, i have claimed an ability I KNOW is typically a scum ability im not wifoming | ||
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I also tried to lynch the other guy who was up for it (was it gonzaw?) I would have been campaigning in the thread had I even known it was majority at the time foolishness only switched to saying he wanted to lynch BH because he was being pressure by you so hard. That was a good job by you. He wanted to lynch BH? Only because you defended me so well, and the thread wasn't going with him as per his "case" on me. Why should I get in your way? You had a great lynch on BH, you had a good defense of me to Foolishness, and you LITERALLY ASKED HIM WHO HE WANTED TO LYNCH MORE, ME OR BH Yeah, your slot is looking great, too | ||
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going to bed | ||
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On July 23 2012 00:48 Protactinium wrote: We PMed him. He will be modkilled if he doesn't post in the next 24 hours. thanks... i wouldn't normally do this, and i haven't ever done it, but i saw talk of him recently (in the thread), and realized (i was analyzing his meta) he hadn't posted since the teens of july | ||
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honestly, at this point, there is nothing stopping us from going ahead and doing it however, role =/= alignment, and i doubt there are townies at all furthermore, my role = typical scum role, so confirmation bias in that regards is out | ||
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On July 21 2012 01:22 Q-bert-Z wrote: Am I missing something or did Mr Murray say that he also steals the power of the person he votes for? If so, that makes him more or less a role - checker... Why not have him steal sandroba's vote, and see if he gets a messaging power? Or does that not count as a thread action? (Which, now that I think about it, seems likely) BM, what kind of information do you receive when you steal someone's power? How do you know what power they have? I haven't gotten to find that out yet. I'd imagine something like this [logout] : Bill Murray [1 NEW PM] "OH JOY" "You now have the ability #Daykill/Execute/BangBang" "HOLY MOTHER OF AFSDAJHAKL" | ||
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sorry for multiple posting; just want to get that out there | ||
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On July 23 2012 06:50 Probulous wrote: Really guys. I said why I chose VE. I said we will listen to him because he was going to lynch someone. It was a crumb. looked to see if this was edited | ||
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On July 23 2012 08:06 Q-bert-Z wrote: Good day, fellow workers, I see you have fared quite well in my absence. You are to be commended. As Mr. Murray said, my vote has been stolen. It seems we have a mass of claims. Very interesting, everyone wants to take credit for killing of The "meany head" Fool. To be honest, I don't blame them, I would want to participate in that glorious act too, so that I may also be recorded in the annals of the Kings of Chez, as the man who helped bring down the pillar of injustice! But alas, I fear I can claim no such act. Of course, not everyone could have killed The Fool, so we must be careful to weed out those who would use this to further their own bureaucratic goals... I must admit that I am a little confused. Did the Risky Nuke actually claim to have shot The Fool also? Or was he just being silly. As I was reading through the newspaper the other day, I realized that i had locked my keys in my car, and when I went to go get them, I accidentally bumped my head on the glass of the car door. It hurt a lot, but suddenly I realized something! If The Fool was the CEO, and knew that when he died people would look at who he pressured, what would he do? Would he live up to his name, or would he set up fake reads??? Was his pressure in the past present a defense for the present future? Was he pressuring people in the present future by defending them in the past present? Chezinu! What is your council? Regardless, it would seem that things for the Brown Revolution are coming along swimmingly, but we still need your help, Minonz! You must Revolt for us to begin the earnest Rebuilding! Revolt against your overlords! Your CEO has been removed, quickly, now while they are still unorganized! You and Chezinu are crazy. I'm just going to get that out of the way! Your posting has been very protown. I stole your vote more on the hope that you were town, had an ability, and were going to be absent. Not all lurking makes me look at someone as scum, which is why I didn't straight up FoS you other than for your inactivity. The fact that you are lurking actively appeases me, coupled with, to reiterate, your proper posting. I like your appeal to Chezinu here. He is someone who remains from a town circle the mafia have been picking off. He really needs protection. Considering Foolishness FoSed me, I NEED PROTECTION in all likelihood. My ability can catch people lying very easily. Foolishness set up a "case" on me that he faked to get me out of the way. He had seen I had made a few one liners trying to see if anyone wanted to lynch him... and a lot of people did. I have a way to get people to listen to me as scum more than town Noone is listening to me this game, because I'm not surefire bussing; I'm poking around in the dark My girlfriend is coming over, so I will be out tonight for a bit. | ||
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On July 23 2012 12:18 Probulous wrote:  it was from my phone if that means anything.it was the fact there were line(s) underneath like this | ||
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hats off, left-handed | ||
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