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Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 16:27 GMT
#2179
I think that Zealos or BH should be lynched tomorrow. These are the people that have been talked about the most and we should keep the attention on them. Secondary candidates like BM, Palmar, Foolishiness, GGQ should be put aside until we solve the more pressing matters at hand. Right now there is still an incredible lack of focus. People are just spewing out whoever they think is Mafia without regard to what the town thinks.

Tomorrow we should lynch BH. He has been at the forefront of causing chaos and keeping the town derailed. I certainly wouldn't mind Zealos either but with BH we have much more to go off of and he seems like the safest.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 18:50 GMT
#2233
On July 21 2012 03:34 syllogism wrote:
Stop arguing with mafia, in particular Foolishness.

Katina how come you don't want to lynch Foolishness tomorrow?


I never said I didn't. There is obviously more focus on Zealos, BH, and Kurumi at the moment. We have our hands full at the moment with all this other stuff going on in the thread. The town's priority at the moment is Kurumi and Zealos. If the town decides they want to lynch Foolishness tomorrow and cast their votes (and leave them there) I won't object. (I have stated before that I think he's Mafia)

On July 21 2012 03:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 03:34 syllogism wrote:
Stop arguing with mafia, in particular Foolishness.

Katina how come you don't want to lynch Foolishness tomorrow?


Because she's mafia with him.


Hardly.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 23:35 GMT
#2363
On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!

##unvote
##vote: sandroba

Okay, really?

Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 23:47 GMT
#2372
On July 21 2012 08:34 Kurumi wrote:
Katina, mind listing your mafia and town reads?
Im going through your filter and there's a lot of mafia lists but you never seem to call anyone town...
You are trying to control the chaos in the thread, but you simply don't have the presence or authority to do so. Why not pursue it harder? Why not pursue it more gently? Do you really care?
Palmar's RL plan seems genuine and good. That's why I was up for it. His play looks a lot like bored town. He bring info on Q.
He gives a lot of reads, some cases. I just got it how much it sucks that I am alive. It's Day 2 and scum are going to have enough intel to kill good people without them doing any justice. Damn it. You MUST preserve Town's reads.
First Katina's post ticks me off in this moment:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:07 Katina wrote:
Palmar is Mafia: He puts out the idea of a random lynch and tries to convince the town to go with it. Random lynches are a bad idea, yes there are a lot of mafia but there are more townies. There's a higher chance of hitting a townie D1 which I rather not have happen..

Like it's not the case like.. ALWAYS? Her reason to go against RL is pretty much none. Something's wrong here.
Also compare this list:
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On July 18 2012 09:26 Katina wrote:
bugs, you should really know better than to try to switch the vote train off of two people who were discussed at in length. You have caused a shitstorm now, and the votes aren't any better than they were 24 hours ago. The people voting for austin at this point:

supersoft
wherebugsgo
Bill Murray
sandroba
syllogism
risk.nuke
gonzaw


Looks like a pretty good mafia list. I wouldn't mind 4 or 5 of you dying.

To this one: (I'll help)
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On July 19 2012 12:20 Katina wrote:
On July 19 2012 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have had my vote stolen for the entire cycle.

Also I really don't like the idea of not killing kurumi today. The last thing we need to do is give up an easy scum kill.


It doesn't matter if your vote was stolen, just vote.

Why would we give up an easy kill? It will narrow down the scum count, that's what we need to win as town. If Kurumi doesn't die people are just going to derp around and be unfocused because he IS still alive. With him dead that's one less distraction and we can focus on the other scum such as:

Mattchew
Foolishness
Palmar
Blazinghand

Syllogism
Bill Murrary

Even given the first list is based off votes on austin, I wonder why they're not in the second one...


You want my reads? Okay:

Mafia: Foolishness, Mattchew, Palmar, Blazinghand, Syllogirm, BM (as clearly stated) Those reads have no changed.

Town: I have no idea... Once I get a good town read that I'm confident in I will let you know.

I don't care if I don't have the "authority" I'm still going to try anyway instead of sit on my ass and watch the town burn, nor do I care what you think. I check on the thread when I can but there's only so many times I can yell at you guys to try and get it together and be focused so we can kill the Mafia and win this. At this point pursuing it gently is not going to work, no one would listen to me. If I didn't care I wouldn't be making all these points constantly on trying to keep conversation and votes focused.

The first list I posted was off of votes that were casted. I used that as the basis for my Mafia list. I went through and looked at some filters and as the time went and more content was being displayed I came to the conclusion of my present Mafai list. I've explained all my reads: I made a case against Mattchew, Blazinghand is obvious, Palmar hasn't done anything all game (as I've said a few times now), Foolishness is duh, syllogism hasn't done anything but accuse anyone who attacks him, and Foolishness provided a million reasons why Bill Murray is mafia.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 23:49 GMT
#2373
On July 21 2012 08:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!

##unvote
##vote: sandroba

Okay, really?

Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty.


What? No. You're ignoring the possibility of Kurumi flipping scum. If Sandro IS somehow legit, then Zealos is also scum. What is it with you and trying to lynch me in literally every game we play together? ._.

I don't try and lynch you every game. Just the ones where you are Mafia or in some cases third party.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 23:49 GMT
#2374
On July 21 2012 08:36 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!

##unvote
##vote: sandroba

Okay, really?

Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty.

Are you always that aggressive, Katina?

Nope. This is the first time I have been this aggressive but the town is going up in flames and it's horrible.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 23:52 GMT
#2375
On July 21 2012 08:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!

##unvote
##vote: sandroba

Okay, really?

Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty.


I'm inclined to agree, but I REALLY REALLY want to lynch Executives. This inter-office communication bullshit is gonna continue to be convoluted and confusing.

Katina, do you think I'm insane for thinking sandroba is scum? If so, please tell me nicely.


I don't think you are insane for thinking so. Everything is crazy right now but wanting to lynch executives is causing more bad than good. It's impossible to tell and makes the thread go crazy instead of just lynching those who we think are scummy.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 03:46 GMT
#2439
So this is a picture of me after I saw what Kurumi flipped.
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Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 03:56 GMT
#2442
I thought so
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 17:26 GMT
#2467
On July 21 2012 17:36 supersoft wrote:
katina looks pretty cute :-o
she cant be scum.


You're too kind.

Anyways, back to Mafia.

On July 22 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote:
if you can shoot tonight kill foolishness, syllo, katina, BM, zealos etc

I'll be around later


Why do you think I should be shot? You have yet to give any reasons to why you think I'm Mafia. You have done close to nothing this game besides popping in every now and then, and giving a brief hit and run then off again. You know who is known for hit and runs? Mafia, have you not seen the old Mafia movies??. Your uselessness this game has astounded me.

The same goes for Mattchew as well. Lack of contribution or care for find Mafia, close to no reads with almost no explanation or reasoning.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 19:29 GMT
#2489
Lynch those who are scummy. Don't worry about lynching the executives right now. We haven't killed one Mafia yet. Our focus needs to be on that right now. Not making speculations and picking someone we think "could be" a executive. I would imagine that all the minions have the powers anyway since executives have the authority to communicate messages. Wouldn't make sense for them to have anymore powers.

We need to lynch into this group:

Foolishness
Palmar
Mattchew
Blazinghand
Syllogism
BM
All these players are playing poorly this game and aren't playing according to their town Meta's in previous games. All these people are normally focused and organized when they scum hunt. (BM aside) There's gaurenteed Mafia in there, I'm certain of it. Again, don't worry about the executives. Just lynch Mafia, that's all that matters. There's too much worry about the messages being sent amongest the Mafia. As I have said before there is no way to know who's what on the chain of command. So it's pointless and a distraction to be worrying about this.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 19:35 GMT
#2493
On July 22 2012 04:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
You and Foolish have both stated similar aims. :/

All right, that's BH in my opinion, Foolish is right.


Careful, Foolishness is also scum and Palmar is most likely Mafia as well. The last thing we need to do is have the town start thinking that Foolishness isn't Mafia. BH is a good lynch candidate for tomorrow. He has the most against him right now.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 19:36 GMT
#2497
On July 22 2012 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar isn't. He's a gut player. Not saying he doesn't have good reads or rape scums - just saying he doesn't scumhunt methodically that I've seen...just waits for scum to reveal themselves to him and then lynch the piss out of them.

For the record.


That's nice but I still think he's Mafia.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 19:38 GMT
#2501
On July 22 2012 04:36 syllogism wrote:
BH is very likely mafia, but it's laughable to include him on a list of people who you say are "focused and organized" when they scum hunt. No one thinks Foolishness is town, so he clearly should be our lynch tomorrow.

I was using those terms loosely. They all have their different ways of being "focused and organized" when they play. Also they are "consistent and confident"
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 19:52 GMT
#2509
On July 22 2012 04:39 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 04:35 Katina wrote:
On July 22 2012 04:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
You and Foolish have both stated similar aims. :/

All right, that's BH in my opinion, Foolish is right.


Careful, Foolishness is also scum and Palmar is most likely Mafia as well. The last thing we need to do is have the town start thinking that Foolishness isn't Mafia. BH is a good lynch candidate for tomorrow. He has the most against him right now.

Katina you keep complaining that town lacks focus, but you should be pushing Foolishness lynch in every single of your posts. He is a rational, good player so there is no chance whatsoever he is town in this game. The error margin is pretty much 0%. With players like kurumi, zealos, BH there is always a small possibility that they are just playing poorly or trolling, while that's not possible with Foolishness. He should be your strongest read.


I made a post against him on D1 saying that I knew he was Mafia. We have been preoccupied with people like Kurumi and Zealos there hasn't been any time to discuss Foolishness as a lynch candidate for tomorrow. I would me more than happy to lynch him. He's somewhere near the top of my Mafia list in just about all my posts. I have been talking about what's going on in the thread and trying to keep the town focused (I'm aware I don't have the "authortity") but I'm still going to try.

As for BH, I have a pretty good idea between him trolly town play and his Mafia or third party play (which are pretty much the same)
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 19:59 GMT
#2514
On July 22 2012 04:53 Mattchew wrote:
As of this very moment I will be voting between katina rastaban and foolishness tomorrow


No reasons for why you think so? Surprise, Surprise.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 20:03 GMT
#2515
On July 22 2012 04:57 rastaban wrote:
I was snooping through some of the experienced players filters
Syllogism is town it is pretty obvious
Foolishness I'm sorry I doubted you for a bit. I forgot last game we played together mafia's ploy was to get you lynched. I am convinced your town now so let's work together. You are posting just like you did then with distant for poor town play an focusing on finding scum. I like it!

Not sure on ggq yet, time for more research!
Chezinu and sandroba are obviously town.
BM is so different from himself he must be scum.


What?
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 23:39 GMT
#2562
On July 22 2012 08:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 07:55 layabout wrote:
What is all of this about BH that i seem to have missed?


Apparently I'm to be lynched tomorrow rather, than, say, Zealos.

You're scummier.

I'm going to read over some filters. I will be back with hopefully some more reads.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 21 2012 23:48 GMT
#2568
On July 22 2012 08:41 supersoft wrote:
Katina, is it true that foolish had no time to be around for the day1 lynch?


It's true. He stepped out for a bit. It was something that had to be taken care of urgently and quickly. Couldn't really be avoided.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 22 2012 00:24 GMT
#2576
Yep... thoughts so.
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