Bureaucracy Mafia! - Page 14

On October 28 2009 22:51 motbob wrote:

He's being blatantly useless in all his posts, which is what he did when he was mafia. Maybe he does that all the time.

On February 14 2010 15:53 redtooth wrote:
i wish chezinu would be modkilled. don't want to waste a lynch on him but he's like a less funny 0cz3c - useless and distracting.

as for mayors: none of them have presented any reason to vote for them. l10f made what appeared at first to be a troll platform. as of now, neither Ace and L should be trusted too much, especially with the power of mayor.

that would leave citizen but i've yet to see either show any promise in the thread. i keep hearing good things about him but have yet to personally see it (i haven't read through the other mafia game) and the only thing i've seen so far from him is his promise to not trust anyone (duh...).

i would also refrain from pushing for Ver to be mayor and voting for him despite his lack of candidacy. it's not funny and it's really, really not smart.

On March 07 2010 09:12 Ace wrote:
Seriously Chezinu for all the nonsense you talk you'd be the first person I ask someone to shoot. I don't even give a shit if you're a DT you're useless.

On March 07 2010 09:30 Ace wrote:
Well Malongo I clearly agree that Chezinu is one of the most useless players. However we can't just start killing people for that reason because in this format almost everyone can kill. So let's not give people an excuse to be trigger happy ok?

On March 07 2010 10:46 Ace wrote:
@JeeJee: Delay(days) = #of times killed already.

@dozko: It wasn't a crapshoot. Malongo didn't do anything spectacular. Chezinu told on himself like an idiot. Yes Chezinu is fucking useless but that doesn't give Malongo the right to kill him without consulting the town.

On June 23 2010 05:22 Ace wrote:


I don't even mind seeing bandwagons this early since if YellowInk gets lynched and flips town the DT know exactly where to look.

However I do have a problem with bandwagons formed off of stupid logic. Looking at Bill's arguments against YI they are pretty terrible. Saying that since we are out of the RVS (blatantly false), him voting for bumatlarge makes no sense. Doesn't help that him and Chezinu are typing in morse code in the thread when there isn't anything to breadcrumb on Day 1 of this setup. To kick things off I'm voting for them. I want everyone's opinion on this: - Are we voting on the most useless people? Imo we should because inactivity should not be a problem. With the 2 worst players on the same team I view it as getting rid of distractions early.

On June 23 2010 05:26 Ace wrote:


How so. Please give us an actual logical breakdown of how you arrived at this conclusion. Every game you and your ally post nonsense and get away with it because everyone thinks you are useless, ignoring the fact you may be scum.

On July 03 2010 17:28 Ace wrote:
even in a thread about nothing Chezinu is useless

On July 22 2010 02:26 Protactinium wrote:

I can live with this. From my standpoint, I still don't believe there is enough conviction to risk wasting one of our weapons, though I will most likely be voting for a double lynch for Day 4 (voting during the next day).


Pyrr dropped a bomb with this one. Reading through it is very convincing, and given how DarthThienAn has been playing this game ("Chezinu"-style but even more useless) at the very most he is playing very anti-town. I'm tempted to place my vote on him, but as we still have around 11 hours till deadline the fact that DarthThienAn hasn't been able to defend himself means that my vote will be staying upon an abstain now. After all, innocent till proven guilty, right?

Something that should be taken into consideration is the dichotomy of the battle. Still so early on, I don't think it's worth it for Mafia (if Pyrrhuloxia) is indeed so to make such a direct attack, especially since Mafia know that the victim will indubitably flip town-aligned. Of course, that could be WiFOM speaking but it doesn't seem likely. If DarthThienAn is not Mafia, then we probably have a town-on-town fight that the Mafia are either going to slightly help stir on or sit back and enjoy. Make no mistake, DarthThienAn is a strong player. I have read over a few of his past games now and he is quiet coherent and forceful when he wants to be. Hopefully this calling-out will force him to be more of a benefit to the town.

In regards to Subversion: The more I read into it, the more that I think people still accusing Subversion are just looking for an easy target. As Roffles has mentioned, Subversion still seems new to this game, and blunders do occur. If they continue to happen, we can easily hold him accountable for them, and his trail is easy enough to backtrack.

The same holds true with BrownBear. He (conclusively figure out it's a he from reading past games) can be a very well-spoken player, and was very pro-town in the first game he subbed in for, where he got into a bit of a sticky situation with a strategic modkill scenario. He's attempted to make amends for his Day 1 actions, though if his posting slips back into the unacceptable zone he's already on radar.

Chaoser seems to be a separate ticket, though if he is red he is not as strong a threat as DarthThienAn can potentially be. I assume Chaoser's experiment was to get Subversion to claim, though I think at this point we've already had enough soft claiming to get us through.

With all this being said and done, right now it seems like that along with the rest of the town, we're all waiting for DarthThienAn to speak. Hopefully he'll finally calm down and give us some legible answers, and hopefully we'll be able to bring out the great town player in him.

For now, since I am heading out for the day I will once again

##Vote abstain

as a placeholder. I will most definitely return before deadline and will change my vote to DarthThienAn, but at this point I'm unwilling to vote for Subversion or BrownBear. Chaoser, too, can wait for a later day, and we will pressure him to post better.

People that need to post more: tree.hugger, Divinek, lakrismamma, SouthRawrea, ~OpZ~, BloodyC0bbler, d3_crescentia, Tricode, and zeks.

I am just going through the player roster thinking "who haven't I seen on the thread" in a while, so this list may be subjectively based upon my memory. For the most part though, I think this is correct. Don't let inactivity hurt us, town. Just because we're embroiled in this current situation it doesn't mean we let potential Mafia just sit back and do nothing.

On August 10 2010 06:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Your vote for BM is a bad choice in comparison to YoungMini. YoungMini is a better target, but Chezinu is better. Arguably Foolishness.

Bad choice IMO. Bill's stopped his random spam, and just because VM (BC) and chezinu have banter doesn't mean they are active. They are posting, yes, but completely useless information. I would prefer if you changed your vote onto someone who would provide us more information, like Foolishness or Chezinu. It would be in the whole towns best interest.

On April 21 2011 00:08 Rean wrote:


Blabla, loose words and vague promises. In the end it's every man for himself, you'll help people as long as you need them and then stab them in the back, just like everyone else here.

While your ability does mess with our own voting, I think you're more useful for now, if only to mess with enemy voting. The only truly useless ability I see here is Chezinu's as a PM circle is useless. Everything that has to be said can be said in the thread, no need for a PM circle.

For me right now, this is how our tribe looks:

1.) Chaoser: Confirmed non-SK, has been nothing but helpful to the team, devoting himself to make sure we all stay alive and well. No chance in hell anyone is voting him off.
2.) Rean: the same except for the non-sk part, which is unlikely because Chaoser is the only one that has a shelter from me and he's fine. I've been entirely pro-team so far and as long as we're still together i'll remain to be. I'm not going to make false promises of friendship when it comes to the 6 person endgame because I know very well in the end it's every man for himself. I have been brutally honest about what I think and what i'm going to do and i'll remain that way.
3.) Mr. Wiggles: Has been pro-team so far. Could be the serial killer of course but not very likely. Not really worth voting off as his ability is somewhat useful for now.
4.) Chezinu: ability is useless. PM has no real use in this game, and Chezinu realises that himself and has decided to just hunt for clues instead. Would be the no-brainer goto vote if it wasn't for our latest member:
5.) Coagulation: absolutely useless. Has been on our team for one day and immediatly went off and traded all his food from scavenging with Bum from another team WITHOUT EVEN ATTEMPTING TO DISCUSS THIS, despite that he should've at the very least just made the trade with me instead.

My vote is on Coagulation for now but if you trust him to not be useless luggage after tonight then I'm willing to vote off Chezinu instead.

On May 17 2011 06:36 KillerSOS wrote:



And people call my posts useless.

On July 15 2011 12:19 sandroba wrote:
Chezinu is scum. There are two different kinds of trolling by chezinu. The completely useless one, when he only posts unhelpfull funny nonsense (see PYPI) and the one which he actively looks for mafia in a troll like fashion (see CCM and that other old game he was DT, forgot which).
This game it's pretty obvious which one that is.
Now let's look at chez actions: He claimed to have started the wagon against nisani, but that is false and an atempt to buy cred. I made the analysis and voted for him first. He then unvoted nisani out of the blue when he was close to getting lynched, possibly lynching Radfield. Radfield is very likely not scum, by occam's razor.

On August 24 2011 12:51 Kavdragon wrote:
Firstly, playing Chezinu was the funnest thing I've done in mafia in a LONG time, and if I didn't know people would hate me for it, I'd play that way every game. I was actually thinking of requesting his personality before the game, but decided against it. Turns out it didn't matter.

Second, I think that Chez has somehow done the impossible and built up a meta that makes him completely useless. I mean, even if he's being useful, and helping, nobody pays attention to him. I said so many things and tried to help in so many ways but people immediately dismissed my posts because they were in a "Chez" voice.

As far as my invention goes, I talked to Sandroba extensively about who I should give it to. He was of course the perfect man to plan with, since I could tell him about my power (not allowed to do it in thread), and because he would know who everyone is. I was hesitant about giving it to him for many reasons, but I trusted that he had a plan, and I was stupid to think that the mafia wouldn't realize how broken his role was, and RB him from then on. I wish I had put in a mechanic that would have allowed him to pass it on to someone else.

I'm not entirely sure how the bomberman works, but giving someone who has been talking about his insanity all the time the key word "insane" was so sure of a shot to kill me, I'm not sure why it wasn't just a day vig.

I did actually think that Aidnai was mafia, but that was just me being a idiot and making assumptions I shouldn't have made. I'll try to learn from that.