whoa. I didn't even know we were from Liquidia.

Anyway, is there something subtle in there which determines JieXian's role? We kinda know he was the tracker but shouldn't it say so?

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 01:14 GMT

#823

Really nice going with the role playing thing by the way, really makes it more interesting.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 01:24 GMT

#825

Ah. Yes. I am the detective. Forgot about that.

Apparently, the blood of Bassinspace runs red.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 01:25 GMT

#826

##vote BassinSpace

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 01:27 GMT

#832

Yes I realize that. He is either miller or scum.

And as I asked before. Do the miller flip vanilla townie and miller when killed?

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 01:37 GMT

#839

Oh man I asked that question like a jackass. It should have been vanilla townie or miller. Anyway, we got the answer.

Building a case against BassInSpace is pointless. It will all come down to WIFOM. There is probably nothing that can stop us from lynching him. He will die either today or tomorrow. If it's because he is scum or he is very unlucky, that is what we are about to find out. Not lynching him now would be stupid.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 01:55 GMT

#844

Well then. Suppose BassInSpace is dead and he flips vanilla townie. Who is the scummiest?

I mean. We must lynch Bass either this night or the next.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 02:09 GMT

#847

I will be dead next night =(

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 02:39 GMT

#852

I don't see how a miller would cause more distraction later on in the game, as only the detective and the tracker are distracted by the miller. One of those two is dead and the other (me) will be dead by dawn of the next day.

However. I will vote for Bass. 50% are great odds to be honest. Making a case for someone who acts scummy is not remotely as viable as those odds.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 11:35 GMT

#876

I honestly don't see how it was idiotic to investigate Bass. Oh well, that's for post game discussion.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 12:38 GMT

#878

What I am "basically saying" is that any case against you and any case for you will come down to WIFOM. There is no way to prove that you are townie without saying "He might be acting to seem townie" just as there is no way to prove you are scum.

What we do know is that you are either miller or scum.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 15:16 GMT

#880

BassInSpace. As it is now I simply cannot trust anything you say or any case you make. It is too dangerous.

The fact that you even think your votes is of more value to the town than a confirmed townies view is ridiculous. The town has such and advantage the vote doesn't really matter; What matters now is confirming people's roles so their words gain credibility.

If you try to convince me to lynch someone other than you now (which is to some degree understandable) all I will see is potential misleading. If you make your cases against who you think is suspicious and, if lynched, flip green, they all know that the information you have provided is 100% town-aligned.

I don't choose who to investigate by chance. I chose you because all trough this game you have been trying to make a case against Mackin but when the voting is due you jump onto the most voted person (granted you did have to chose between Lazer and Hopeless, but the concept still stands). I found that somewhat scummy and decided to investigate.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 15:25 GMT

#881

Evul, JieXian is saying that the logical choice for you if you are scum and Lazer is town was to vote for Hopeless because if you hadn't and Lazer flipped green, you would have looked quite scummy, and not only would Hopeless have had a high chance of being lynched the next day anyway, you would also be compromised and under heavy scrutiny.

Here is you saying that the only logical choice for a scum would be to jump on the Hopeless buss.

I don't say this makes you scum; I am saying that you voting for Hopeless doesn't clear you, and I am saying it with your words.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 15:47 GMT

#884

everyone who voted Lazer is either dead or confirmed town.

I actually didn't know that. Either way:

It is from perfect context. When we vote for who to lynch, every vote is deciding. It doesn't matter if it's the last or if it's the first, they both matter the same.

For the other reasons I mentioned which you discarded I will keep my vote on you.

Evulrabbitz

Sweden134 Posts

July 11 2012 21:26 GMT

#902

This is very scummy. You are trying to downplay the fact that we have misslynched Release and was about to misslynch Zen_Man. Will this be your argument when Bass flips miller aswell?

He clearly states what happened, how can that be downplaying it?

This check was not useless. If someone would flip miller, we can just auto-lynch Bass. But that will not happend as Bass is miller.

What if the miller flips too late? Keep in mind Jingle said the same about Hopeless. Hapa was very convinced Jingle was Mafia. We all said the same about Release (As YourHarry pointed out).

He never said it was useless, he said that because there is a miller the validity of investigation has been compromised; As in it might not be entirely true.

All you said in that post was plain bullshit.

Anyway. I don't side with Harry, nor do I side with Bass. I believe that keeping BassInSpace alive is not crucial for town victory. What you do need is town-aligned information and viewpoints. Now, if BassInSpace makes his cases; "Who would he lynch first? Next? etc", you still have his viewpoints. If we then lynch him we either get a Mafia and win the game or get a valid source of information there is no need to distrust.