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On July 07 2012 02:27 MrZentor wrote: Marvellosity, if prphlz were dead, who would you kill? Yo if you're town don't ask questions like this, they're fucking loaded. At this stage in the game setting up flips like that is really bad. I agree with killing prplhz, it's unacceptable for him to crap up the thread and then decry two players for basically the exact same thing. I recall him doing this as town before and having it fail spectacularly, so I think the only reason he would ever go back to this style is if he were scum. (or that he had contracted amnesia...but I think being scum is the simpler explanation here) ##vote prplhz | ||
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On July 07 2012 08:09 slOosh wrote: ? I support a prplhz lynch as of now if that is what you are asking, and will move it for the lynch should the time comes. Yet day is still less than half over and I anticipate much activity this saturday. As an aside there is no need to crap on MrZentor. Rather, you should be figuring out with me if he is either trying to deflect a lynch or if he genuinely thinks that Sinensis is much scummier. On that note, MrZentor how does Sinensis alone earn a mention, and subsequent vote, when I see several other players who would fit the bill of "cautious" or "afraid to post"? This is a horrendous post solely because it is not accompanied with a vote. You say you're for a prplhz lynch now and "should the time come" (wtf does that mean) but don't accompany it with a vote. You know better than most that the way to solidify a read or push is to put a vote along with it and you haven't done that. You're scum. | ||
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If you want sinensis to get lynched and you wanted to keep him on the radar perhaps you shouldn't have voted him so early in the first place. It makes more sense to let the read develop on a player who you have a gut read on, as opposed to actual evidence, no? We have a good contradiction to lynch prplhz on. It isn't like this is a normal d1 bandwagon IMO. | ||
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Wiggl3s whose smurf are you? Unless you're actually decent at this game we can only laugh at you telling marv he was killing townies in his last game. He can probably learn something from it, but being a player and having knowledge are two completely separate things. Thus trying to attack his argument on the assumption that he is bad is simply an exercise in logical fallacy. | ||
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I never responded to you because your concerns honestly weren't worth responding to in the first place. | ||
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On July 07 2012 09:40 Bluelightz wrote: First, your just making more WIFOM to throw around and discuss (which is kinda worthless cause you posted like what? 3 posts?) and please explain why, I hate baseless bullshit. So do you throw a pointless fit every time Kenpachi claims VT too? Why are you trying to call me scum for something that is alignment-null? | ||
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On July 07 2012 10:29 Bluelightz wrote: Because Kenpachi if fucking annoying. Im not calling you scum I'm asking you to explain your actions. read up the post lol so what was the point of saying that I was shitting up discussion? Is that what happened? I think claiming vanilla is a good way to start a game when there's nothing else to do. Kenpachi rule might be effective, it might not be, but it's completely alignment-irrelevant. Although to toot my own horn as scum I would never do it because it would mean I couldn't fakeclaim later. As scum I plan ahead and having the opportunity to fakeclaim something is imperative. If I claim vanilla town in my first post that's basically thrown out the window. | ||
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On July 07 2012 11:15 Bluelightz wrote: There was policy lynch discussion? I guess your response was good though, I agree because fake-claiming later is basically a no-go if you did that. Now, opinions on prplhz and Sinensis please? reread my filter, I've already explained my stance on prplhz. He's almost certainly scum and it would take something fairly significant to change my vote. As for Sinensis I lean scum on him, but given that he made an easy mislynch the last time I played with him, he could be anything. He has no content so it's rather futile to try and solidify a read of him until he posts a bit more. | ||
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On July 07 2012 13:58 Sinensis wrote: You switched your lynch candidate 3 times in 4 posts, and one of those posts was an edit. My thoughts were up to date a page ago. maybe I'm just illiterate, but hasn't slOosh's lynch candidate only changed once? It went from drwiggl3s (some pressure vote) to you. I don't see any other change in the thread. On July 07 2012 13:47 Sinensis wrote: It's suspicion. In my first post I said "sloosh would be wise to clarify his votes." You didn't do that adequately. You just switched your vote to me, and then your suspicion to prplhz. players can't have multiple suspects? If you really are town why are you nitpicking so pointlessly? You just cause needless confrontation over non-issues. In fact most of the things you've tried attacking slOosh over are completely alignment irrelevant. | ||
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Why in the hell would you play so blatantly disruptive as a COP? I'm not sure if I even believe this. | ||
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I actually like Bluelightz's choice of lynch, drwiggl3s. I still wouldn't mind killing prplhz either, but maybe that's because I expect better from him given his experience. He's more experienced than me and yet he still pulls this type of play...really dude? Literally the only reason half the players unvoted him is the cop claim. If there's a roleblocker in this game it renders the role useless. Anyone operating from a town perspective would know this and hesitate to claim. Not like the votes were final or this was particularly late into the day, correct? We still have quite some time left? Gonna reread and I'll be back later. | ||
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Certainly we shouldn't be relying on roles but it would be naïve to think that the setup isn't balanced with blues in mind. Also I don't say "play blue as green" (that makes no sense whatsoever) but regardless of what type of town you are you should be playing constructively and you should work to establish yourself as town. You did nothing constructive or helpful in your first five posts and that's why half the players in the game were fine with killing you. Now you're just crying because you want attention to your case. Too bad your credibility is shot now; even if you are town I'm going to be far less trustworthy of you given how antitown your play has been so far. | ||
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On July 08 2012 06:27 marvellosity wrote: NSH in particular, but also anyone - what do you think makes wiggles' play scummy rather than just bad townie? Mostly the diplomatic way in which he approaches everything. I can't think of an actual stance nor opinion that he took. I also particularly just liked all the points Bluelightz made: those are the things I noticed myself. Also I'm completely fine with killing Zontar as she's done nothing and will probably continue to do nothing given how little attention she's receiving. | ||
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##unvote ##vote drwiggl3s | ||
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We could potentially get away with a few less if scum bus but if we don't get consolidation fast then we'll end up with a no-lynch. drwiggl3s is the best choice for lynch given the situation: his play doesn't match to LVI and he so far has done nothing beyond saying some meaningless words. Any townies on sinensis or anyone else: strongly reconsider your vote. | ||
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Contrast that to wiggl3s who has not had really any clear opinions. He's waffled on a lot of things and he's for the most part sat around and done nothing. He's got some talk in his filter but if you read between the lines he's not actually saying anything. Contrast this with his play in LVI and you'll see what I'm talking about (players from LVI should know what I'm talking about, anyway. Marv does) As for how fast the wagon built up, doesn't really matter given that it's a last minute voteswitch. That's how they work. Earlier wagons that build up fast are a bit more concerning because people have time to think about their opinions but they just jump on the first guy who seems controversial without thinking about it. Here in this case we've at least gone through stages of eliminating certain possibilities (e.g. prplhz) | ||
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Who knows, maybe they're both town and we're on a wild goose chase, but I think wiggl3s is the better choice of the two. Best choice today, in fact. If I had the balls I'd lynch prplhz but given how many bad blues have flipped recently I'm not so willing. | ||
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Also I haven't found that middle-of-the-wagon thing to be a very effective indicator on TL. I'm doing some rereading, I should have some thoughts before deadline unless I forget. | ||
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Still rereading but if I die tonight let it be known that I think Zontar is scum. Probably won't die though, lol | ||
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Secondly of her actual posts they're pretty neutral and her actions don't align with her words. Check this out: On July 07 2012 01:53 MsZontar wrote: K time I get my 2 cents in, first i disagree with you Zentor to lynch someone baised on a single not very incriminating post that might i add was made at about 3 in the morning (might explain why its a bit jumbled) doesnt seem like the wisest of actions, so yes i would like to hear from sinensis but dont think his actions as of now have been very guilty, also I dont think Prp is guilty, yes is posts have been a bit jumbled but his overall play seems innocent to me First it's apparent that Zontar is self-aware she hasn't been a part of the discussion (time I get my 2 cents in). The rest of the post is mostly neutral but in the favor of sinensis/prpl being town (easiest contribution for scum to make) On July 07 2012 02:07 MsZontar wrote: K here's what i think, Marv is scum, first if you look at all his posts there is a distinct difference in tone between the pregame and game posts. Pregame he was joking, then once the game begins his posts becum harsher... If he was acctually looking for scum i think it would be more inqusitive... he seems very quick to accuse! Here's the accusation of marvellosity: not backed with a vote. Instead her vote ends up on sinensis who she said she thought was town. Doesn't matter whether you're a noob or not, you don't vote for your townreads. | ||
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doesn't that suck? | ||
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My second biggest mistake was ignoring my gut on the prplhz cop claim. Gut told me that he was scum and panicking (the clues verified this) but I had the misfortune of having an exam on d1 which meant I didn't read thoroughly. So, the lesson for me is the same as it's been for several games now: listen to your damn gut more often and find out why it says the things it does Thanks to GM and Hiro for a very well run game, as well. | ||
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