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slOosh
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On July 11 2012 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote: My D1 switch was based on a couple of things. First of all, at the time I was reading slOosh as town, and a town slOosh is someone I can get behind. When I saw his support of the DrWiggles wagon, and after rereading the guy myself, I was totally fine with him as a lurker lynch since no one seemed interested in lynching prplhz or Sinensis (my preferred lynches at the time). On July 08 2012 07:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah okay. ##Unvote ##Vote Drwiggl3s On July 08 2012 07:53 slOosh wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote:drwiggl3s Gotchya. Think critically. Sit tight and watch a lying scum flip. | ||
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Whatever. Lynching me is better than a no-lynch. Either switch back or I'm self-voting so town can get their act together. | ||
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No doubt my credibility is shot harder than prplhz. What can I do? ah .... It's lylo tomorrow anyways so I can't even make a proper will ... ... i'll come back later. | ||
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slOosh
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I'll be reviewing everything from the top. Make the best use of these 24 hours marv, because what you say will determine what I am able to do tomorrow (unless you survive in which case that is simply a 48 hr extension). | ||
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slOosh
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I'm still town and will be doing my all to convince you and whoever the rest of town is that I am town, I care about town, and you shouldn't lynch me. I'll be building my cases starting now until the library closes. | ||
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Scum attributes: apathy, subtle accusations Point 1: The cop claim prplhz goofs around D1 and ends up claiming cop: As discussed prior, his claim is really off. Why would he do it? You can trust town motivated marv and NSH who both expressed concern about the claim. The thing that most surprised me was how he claimed cop. He snuck it into a giant wall of text as a little aside, one that I actually missed till marv freaked out about it: On July 07 2012 22:45 prplhz wrote: He just outted himself as cop and rendered his blue power useless. Not only that, but the "not that it matters" just shows apathy to town. It is unreasonable to treat a power role so flippantly and claiming so casually, as it makes it so much easier for mafia to deal with it. Apathy.Yea it's pretty hard to summon the energy for anything when five of the biggest town voices in this game are on your back for a couple of one liners. I can't really explain them away with huge town motivation 'cause there weren't much, I was in a bad mood so I did a trolly early game to cheer myself up and then this happened. I can't see another feasible lynch today other than Dangeresque77 and I don' really see him as scum and day1 is often a crap shoot so why not shoot me for being crap. VisceraEyes himself starts the game out with a dumb vote just to get things started. Dumb shit happens in the first few pages all the time. He should really know this because he did it himself but he doesn't. He also seems the the most "bandwagonny" of the people on me, he doesn't contribute with new arguments and it doesn't seem like he understands the case on me at all even though he talks a lot. He called out for me several times and then when I appear he doesn't actually have anything for me. That seems like he is pretty happy with the lynch and he just wants to look good when it's over. Stuff like: So because I have five posts of one line, I should be a lot more townie than a guy with one post of four lines? What is this argument? I still don't get why he says that NoSmurfHere is wherebugsgo when he saw the *yawn* thing too and that looks really Aceish. On the other hand it seems like Ace is one of wherebugsgo's favorite players on this forum and maybe he unconsciously adopted some of his mannerisms. I would really rather wait until everybody's been around and talked this through but I'm not sure how much I'm going to be around tonight. I think this lynch is going to be pretty bad 'cause it was a bandwagon off of 5 lines and there's not a lot to get from it when I flip so I'm just going to go ahead and claim cop. Not that it matters for the lynch or anything but maybe some of you want to take it into your considerations. Sorry for sucking so much. Some days are better than others and sometimes you have a shitty day1 and then you get lynched. I haven't been lynched on day1 since forever (actually, I don't think I've ever been lynched on day1, a night1 shot is the best I can do I think) because people know that I always put in some effort. I have like 100 games and no activity modkills. Point 2: Subtle accusations against me Multiple times does prplhz say that I did something suspicious, but never has he actually considered me as scum (build a case, engage in conversation with me, discuss me with anyone else). On July 07 2012 18:11 prplhz wrote: I don't get how slOosh can actually think that I was sure that marvellosity was scum. He even expresses doubt at this himself but then he just ignores that. First of all it was like two pages into the game. Who the hell has a clear read then? When did anybody ever post something that wasn't gauging reactions in the first pages of a game? Second, if I was sure that he was scum then it would be because there were some really good arguments and then I would have told you guys. Instead slOosh is using this to call me scum when he should really know better. I didn't do anything? Well that's right, I wasn't here. Yesterday was pretty crappy for me which also contributed to my thread presence. I saw that I got a PM and then I thought "cool, I know how to start this game, I'll do setup speculation" but first I voted slOosh because I thought it was funny that our filters would be identical (single vote, no explanation) but his would be scummy and mine wouldn't (his had no reason and mine has the clear reason that his didn't) and I like to try to cheer myself up when I am in a bad mood. I was kind of trying to cheer myself up. Then I went to setup page and saw that this was a semi-open setup and I had thought it was an open setup (I thought it was Radfield's setup from Newbie Mini Mafia XX) and I don't really know why but that just put me in a crappier mood (not that I prefer open setups to semi-open setups, just that I couldn't do setup speculation like I had planned to). Then I just voted marvellosity to gauge his reaction and to argue with someone ('cause I like a good argument and I was trying to cheer myself up) but he didn't react spontaneously like I had wanted him to (like the "lol, ok" in MSM). Then marvellosity and VisceraEyes had a couple of thoughtful posts in no way similar to what they did in MSM and I posted "not this again........" as a joke, again, to cheer myself up. Then people posted full cases on me but I didn't really feel like responding to any of it (and I don't think that I really can) because I was in a bad mood and then I just pointed out that Dangeresque77 was being way more scummy than I was and I left the thread. I'm going to be back in a few hours but I'm not going to be around for deadline. This is his post when he is defending and explaining himself. What I've quoted is only part of the full post. In his "defense" post, he spends more time subtly accusing me rather than actually explaining himself. You can clearly see he has some problems with my play. What does he do with it? On July 09 2012 20:35 prplhz wrote: I don't really know about this Sinensis case. It seems to me like he just wrote a "that" instead of an "if" and it's not really a big deal. slOosh also made assumptions about scum night action here: Implying that I had a check (when it's pretty logical that scum don't want me checking anybody). Another instance in which he subtly accuses me. He clearly has a problem with what I said, and insinuates that I'm illogical in the post. Yet he never pursues a lynch on me. Calls me suspicious but never treats me as scum. I'll quote myself here - addressing his third subtle accusation post. On July 11 2012 01:02 slOosh wrote: Again he points out things he finds suspicious with me, but never moves to discuss it or get a better read. This is apathy - town care about lynching scum. He clearly has had several issues with me thus far, but he never does anything with it. Furthermore, there is inherent contradiction as two times (posts that come between the accusations) does he say I look townish. On that note I don't trust prplhz for his 3rd subtle accusation against me. Really, that last line is totally unnecessary for the post he made. It's casting doubt on me, its a misinterpretation (I never called him as such, the vote switch happened much earlier in the day following marv's pressure on MrZentor), and defends MrZentor as an "easy" target. For someone who overly uses the phrases "I don't really know what to think", "This really seems", "I think you might be" concerning MrZentor's alignment, blatantly calling him an easy target is a huge contradiction. On July 08 2012 06:18 prplhz wrote: I like slOosh a better though after seeing rereading his filter. On July 09 2012 22:46 prplhz wrote: I think slOosh looks townie enough. I read his filter yesterday and nothing really tinkled my senses since then. This is extreme hedging. Calls me townish, points out suspicious things in me. Calls me townish, points out something suspicious. Allows him to play to town sentiment - he doesn't want to draw attention to himself by pushing me, but wants an avenue in which he is able to cast suspicion and doubt on me, and eventually set up the mislynch. Point 3: More apathy, origin of VE case. This is related to my MrZentor scum read. So far what has prplhz accomplished this game? He claimed cop D1 because of weird play on his own part. D2 he calls VE scummy. If you reread how D2 unfolds (you should since we mislynched), how does it play out? He posts a case on VE and checks out. He comes back to defend himself a bit, and then as a MrZentor lynch starts up, he comes in with On July 10 2012 05:43 prplhz wrote: A couple of posts later he gets the lynch back onto VE and checks out again. He started the lynch, but seems to have desire to discuss, or push his thoughts. Reminds me of what Mattchew did in Movie Mini. Starts it but has no involvement in it - only involvement is to redirect away from MrZentor lynch. I've addressed how he does it is also suspicious (he is hesitant but also confident in the same post that he calls zentor town, which betrays a pushing of agenda and mismatch in action and words).Can someone tell why zentor is scum? All I saw was marvellosity threatening zentor and apparently now he's all the rave. Conclusion: prplhz doesn't care about pursuing reads (the only one he had is the one on VE) but only in throwing subtle accusations at me, he isn't transparent (hasn't given a single opinion or mention of half the player list), only thing he does is redirect the D2 lynch from MrZentor to VE, frivolous cop claim. Library closing, so this will be it until tomorrow unless I decide to stay up late. | ||
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slOosh
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On July 11 2012 12:32 slOosh wrote: I've cooled off. Your frustration and desire to lynch me is understandable. I'm still town and will be doing my all to convince you and whoever the rest of town is that I am town, I care about town, and you shouldn't lynch me. I'll be building my cases starting now until the library closes. Prplhz was just at the forefront of my mind according to the reread of D2. I'll be posting on MrZentor next. The last one is tricky and I'm still deciding between a couple players. | ||
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