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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 15:07 GMT
#180
Ok, I'll tell you what's bugging me about prplhz. Let's do it.

On July 06 2012 20:03 prplhz wrote:
##Vote: slOosh


On July 06 2012 21:05 prplhz wrote:
lol marv is scum

##Vote marvellosity


On July 06 2012 21:42 prplhz wrote:
hey marv

you are scum

stop ignoring me


On July 06 2012 22:23 prplhz wrote:
when it comes to sloosh my bullshit tolerance level is pretty low

marv ignoring me because scum


His throwaway, aggressive posts. I've quoted them all because why not. He says I'm ignoring him - you tell me what there is in there for me to respond to? Absolutely nothing.

On its own, it's not too bad really. But hello, what's this?

On July 06 2012 22:15 prplhz wrote:
not this again....................


This was his response to me and VE talking. Not even arguing, just having interaction. How does this quote line up with him calling me scum and then saying I'm ignoring him? He's like... don't shit up the thread!!!! but... that's what I'm going to do! Massive contradiction in this post and his others.

As to 'careless' being less likely to be scummy:

On July 02 2012 16:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
MovIe Star Mini Mafia Analysis


to prplhz in particular: you need to be less scared of what townies think about you. At many points close to the end of the day I remember that you would overthink situations and start contradicting yourself. Remember that the townies in the game don't know your alignment. If you're calling another townie suspicious the only person who knows you're wrong is the guy you're calling out. If you start making weird hedges just to convince yourself you're not looking scummy by calling a townie out, you end up calling attention to yourself.

Observers will recall at some point in the obs QT I said "prplhz is overthinking way too much" and this is what I was referring to. Mafia who concern themselves too much with their own appearances will end up looking exactly like what they're trying not to look like: wishy washy, scared scum.



prplhz should be currently well aware of his own 'meta'.

##Unvote
##Vote: prplhz
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 15:12 GMT
#182
ninjad you Zeph
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 15:14 GMT
#184
yeah, Zeph - the strongest point I feel is the quote I include where prplhz goes "not again..." to me and VE.

Totally doesn't match up to his other posts.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 15:18 GMT
#185
EBWOP: you talked about this too, btw, just saying it's a strong contradiction
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 15:54 GMT
#189
On July 07 2012 00:44 slOosh wrote:
Hey all.

MrZentor has correctly identified my vote as a reaction test against a less known, less experienced (objectively by post count) player.

By doing this I have achieved two objectives of mine: first is to get better reads on people via gauging the responses to my weird play and also subsequent responses to those players. Pushing to something more meaningful than trite policy lynches and giving us something to work with.

Secondly, it makes me more visible - people are keeping an eye on me. Because I'm somewhat confident in my ability to reveal my towniness, this serves to give me a greater voice in town. People pay attention to the posts of those who they think suspicious. That means people gonna read what I say and also get a better, i.e. town, read on me. Awesome.

In any case I'll be resuming my regular play.

##Unvote: MrZentor
##Vote: Sinensis


(I'll be posting more later in the day. Slept at 4am yesterday due to shenanigans and gonna go work now. Hold me accountable)


Let's see.

1) talks about personal objectives, how nice
2) Waffle about people reading his posts
3) Claims to be resuming normal play
4) Votes Sinensis with no explanation
5) Totally ignores prplhz cases

Gosh. What a pile of crap.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 16:40 GMT
#193
It's based on a massive contradiction, not just "strange" play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 16:53 GMT
#197
How is it incorrectly inferred?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 16:53 GMT
#198
Zontar: you've said who you DON'T want to lynch, now who ARE you suspicious of?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 17:03 GMT
#201
Zephirdd my man - you get full marks for using aberrant.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 17:09 GMT
#204
oh god, it's going to be one of these games
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 17:15 GMT
#205
On July 07 2012 02:07 MsZontar wrote:
K here's what i think, Marv is scum, first if you look at all his posts there is a distinct difference in tone between the pregame and game posts. Pregame he was joking, then once the game begins his posts becum harsher... If he was acctually looking for scum i think it would be more inqusitive... he seems very quick to accuse!


I mean... I guess I have to respond :/

Pre-game and ingame ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Cooey.

More inquisitive? Why don't you look at my filter and see how many questions I've asked?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#209
On July 07 2012 02:27 MrZentor wrote:
Marvellosity, if prphlz were dead, who would you kill?


Dangeresque, not for the post he just made but for the one before. Will expand later but I need to exercise/eat/shower now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 20:05 GMT
#213
On July 07 2012 03:07 drwiggl3s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 00:19 Zephirdd wrote:
Also I want to hear from MsZontar, drwiggl3s, sloosh, Dangeresque77.

They all posted nothing. Sloosh, you showed a different play on movie star. The other three, I want your opinions on everything that happened so far and you find relevant; Don't stay shut without words.


I think we need to look at people's previous games. The way they acted D1, along with their resulting alignment. Unless we see a scum slip in this game today, I think that's the best way we can at least estimate who is scum.


This says nothing. Please do something.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 20:57 GMT
#215
On July 07 2012 01:37 Dangeresque77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 00:19 Zephirdd wrote:
Also I want to hear from MsZontar, drwiggl3s, sloosh, Dangeresque77.

They all posted nothing. Sloosh, you showed a different play on movie star. The other three, I want your opinions on everything that happened so far and you find relevant; Don't stay shut without words.


sorry ive been asleep


anyways heres what i think so far

i would be ok to vote for prplhz but im not totally convinced that hes scum. then again it would help to jst go ahead and lynch one person to give us a starting ground

1. from a town perspective. prplhz has been poking and prodding marvelosity and others. marv primely
if he is town he could be just tring to get people to react to being accused and see what they do. a good way of scum hunting

2. if he is mafia. he is trying to throw random suspicion around as to slow down the process of finding scum and make everyone vote for someone different

either way. he hasn't really contributed to anything except to confuse people


also im a little suspicious of Sinensis. like others have said his posts sound suspicious. i think we need to here more from him before we decide on anything


Previous to this post there was some blablabla posts. Reasonably to be expected at the start of day 1. But this post... ah, I don't know where to begin with how it wiffle waffles (big sister of wishy washy). He spends quite a long time talking about prplhz, but to what conclusion? He's confusing. The first sentence is a real cracker:

"I would be ok to vote prplhz" - excellent!
"but I'm not totally convinced he's scum" - oh... why you ok to vote him :<
"then again it would help to just go ahead and lynch one person to get us started" - what??... that's not why we lynch people.

So he's happy to vote prplhz just because... he's ok with getting anyone lynched to start the game.

He then proceeds to call prplhz going "lol u scum" a "good way of scumhunting." Really? :/ I mean, really?? :/

Tacked on the end of the post is the little bit about Sinensis. It feels like he's just put that there to, ya know, say something else. "like others have said, his posts sound suspicious". Well, Zentor said he sounded cautious. Dangeresque does NOT provide his own opinion here, he's just casting the doubt of others on to Sinensis.

Overall just a post of such astonishing nothingness. Very scummy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 21:06 GMT
#217
naw, I've not ruled it out. It could be. I definitely lean scummy though. The way he spends so long making no real conclusion on prplhz, but he's fine on voting him just because. And the prod on Sinensis, but it's not HIM doing it, he's just piggybacking on others. Basically, ugh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 21:10 GMT
#219
oh yea, prplhz is still my #1. As per my/Zeph's cases.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 21:38 GMT
#229
No point saying something sounds suspicious without saying why.

He didn't get me to respond, other than in bemusement - hence his two posts going "marv is ignoring me".

Notice again you still don't say why you find Sinensis suspicious...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 21:39 GMT
#232
VE, this feels like a rehash, but ... would town?

At least I argued my corner in Movie (perhaps not optimally)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 21:41 GMT
#235
Also, VE - that's why, in my case, I specifically linked the quote from wbg on prplhz's scumplay in Movie.

To compare, contrast. I find it quite plausible that he would roll scum and change things up like that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2012 21:42 GMT
#237
On July 07 2012 06:41 Dangeresque77 wrote:
Zephrid.

Now that you bring it up it would make sense for Marv and prplhz to be on the scum team.
They both throw a little suspicion at eachother without any real arguments.
If I
Had to gues right now I would say Marv and prplhz are scum team.
This is me making a clear opinion.


I made a case. One that someone else also made. Don't give me fucking "without any real arguments" when I made a case and prplhz went "lol u scum".

That's just lame.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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