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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 07 2012 22:43 GMT
#428
Connections before a flip are pretty worthless, honestly.
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NoSmurfHere
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New Zealand613 Posts
July 08 2012 01:34 GMT
#445
I've seen sinensis mislynched before (read MTG? I think) at least twice from what I can recall. His play is similar here and it's that offensive bad townie type vibe. He could still be scum but I find it unlikely given how in-your-face he's been. He's also at least had discernible opinions.

Contrast that to wiggl3s who has not had really any clear opinions. He's waffled on a lot of things and he's for the most part sat around and done nothing. He's got some talk in his filter but if you read between the lines he's not actually saying anything.

Contrast this with his play in LVI and you'll see what I'm talking about (players from LVI should know what I'm talking about, anyway. Marv does)

As for how fast the wagon built up, doesn't really matter given that it's a last minute voteswitch. That's how they work. Earlier wagons that build up fast are a bit more concerning because people have time to think about their opinions but they just jump on the first guy who seems controversial without thinking about it. Here in this case we've at least gone through stages of eliminating certain possibilities (e.g. prplhz)
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NoSmurfHere
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New Zealand613 Posts
July 08 2012 01:35 GMT
#446
like basically if we lynch Sinensis I feel like we're lynching the guy that everyone dislikes just because we don't agree with his play. That's usually led to townies dying d1.

Who knows, maybe they're both town and we're on a wild goose chase, but I think wiggl3s is the better choice of the two. Best choice today, in fact.

If I had the balls I'd lynch prplhz but given how many bad blues have flipped recently I'm not so willing.
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NoSmurfHere
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New Zealand613 Posts
July 08 2012 21:34 GMT
#481
Sadly Zeph that's how VE plays in practically every game, town or scum. It makes him incredibly hard to read.

Also I haven't found that middle-of-the-wagon thing to be a very effective indicator on TL.

I'm doing some rereading, I should have some thoughts before deadline unless I forget.
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NoSmurfHere
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New Zealand613 Posts
July 09 2012 00:19 GMT
#497
again, sad part is that he does that all the time as town.

Still rereading but if I die tonight let it be known that I think Zontar is scum. Probably won't die though, lol
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NoSmurfHere
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New Zealand613 Posts
July 09 2012 00:28 GMT
#499
Zontar has slipped by mostly unnoticed. Especially in a game this small we can't allow that.

Secondly of her actual posts they're pretty neutral and her actions don't align with her words. Check this out:

On July 07 2012 01:53 MsZontar wrote:
K time I get my 2 cents in, first i disagree with you Zentor to lynch someone baised on a single not very incriminating post that might i add was made at about 3 in the morning (might explain why its a bit jumbled) doesnt seem like the wisest of actions, so yes i would like to hear from sinensis but dont think his actions as of now have been very guilty,
also I dont think Prp is guilty, yes is posts have been a bit jumbled but his overall play seems innocent to me



First it's apparent that Zontar is self-aware she hasn't been a part of the discussion (time I get my 2 cents in). The rest of the post is mostly neutral but in the favor of sinensis/prpl being town (easiest contribution for scum to make)

On July 07 2012 02:07 MsZontar wrote:
K here's what i think, Marv is scum, first if you look at all his posts there is a distinct difference in tone between the pregame and game posts. Pregame he was joking, then once the game begins his posts becum harsher... If he was acctually looking for scum i think it would be more inqusitive... he seems very quick to accuse!


Here's the accusation of marvellosity: not backed with a vote.

Instead her vote ends up on sinensis who she said she thought was town.

Doesn't matter whether you're a noob or not, you don't vote for your townreads.
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NoSmurfHere
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New Zealand613 Posts
July 15 2012 09:53 GMT
#1133
we derped away two scum on d1

doesn't that suck?
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NoSmurfHere
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New Zealand613 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 23:53:41
July 15 2012 23:52 GMT
#1153
My biggest mistake was believing Bluelightz was town because I thought his wiggl3s push made sense. Up until that point I was suspicious.

My second biggest mistake was ignoring my gut on the prplhz cop claim. Gut told me that he was scum and panicking (the clues verified this) but I had the misfortune of having an exam on d1 which meant I didn't read thoroughly.

So, the lesson for me is the same as it's been for several games now: listen to your damn gut more often and find out why it says the things it does

Thanks to GM and Hiro for a very well run game, as well.
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