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Mister Saturn
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Yet I've played this game by myself  (not blaming you at all s&b, I know you have important stuff to do). | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Hey so idk yet whether we have to send in our choice for who to push yet but if we do I propose we push Talismania. I don't see any reason why we need to die with igrok when we have a town busdriver. hey so sorry ive been away i'm at CERN now, it means I'm doing a lot of work - we shipped an experiment here from the US. anyway let's talk a little bit about reads. Here's where I stand right now: Players 1) Igrok ---- probably scum, b/c of carrying us and trololol 2) Cephiro ---- probably scum for setup reasons, scum probably have a samus bc of kp imbalance plus we and cephiro both revealed we are samus yet igrok decided to carry us, why? 3) Mister Saturn ---- town lol 4) grush57 ---- I don't think I've seen him play a game where it actually looked like he was trying. Null read 5) talismania ---- probably scum, i forget why at the moment but that's what I thought last night 6) kingdedede ---- probably town, no reason for scum to reveal that they had a bus driver when they could have used it to screw town over, and it would have been easy enough for him not to claim it's not like there was pressure on him 7) HomerunBat ---- idk. doublenubs. null read 8) Risen ---- probably town, i dont think scum would have jumped into that exact shit flinging fest like he did for such a little reason as to counter igrok's plan; seems more like something an excited townie would do. IMO if scum are trying to jumble up the thread they would do it either by getting emotional or by trying to incite someone else, but not just by getting into a setup discussion. I could be wrong though. So ranking from towniest to least town: 1) Mister Saturn 2) kingdedede 3) Risen 4) HomerunBat 5) grush57 6) Cephiro 7) talismania 8) Igrok | ||
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Mister Saturn
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+ Show Spoiler + Yea, my reads are pretty similar (I have HomerunBat and Risen switched), but otherwise it's pretty much the same. Let's see how iGrok has "solved the game", rofl. And Cephiro has made two big promises. I don't want to talk about them in the thread, because I want to see what he does without pressure. "I will be using my shot as the majority wants to, unless I feel you're about to do something totally retarded, or that scum manipulating the shot is likely (whether it's by gaining control of discussion or having a busdriver/roleblocker/medic)." "If you're not going to step up your play asap, I will push you for lynch." - He's talking about talismania in this one If he doesn't follow through on these by the end of day 2, he's probably scum. I sent in these actions. We can always change it until 24 hours before the night deadline. At this point, talismania is my strongest scum read. The guy is being completely useless. His last post was absolutely hilarious - he's definitely not town. It's July 4th so I'm not going to really be active today. Hopefully we don't get killed during the day (lava/lynch), but it's a strong possibility, cause I've done a pretty shitty job of establishing innocence. Stage: Push talismania Item: Top Right | ||
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 I don't believe you. You're dying tonight.- Hiro | ||
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- Hiro | ||
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And if you're actually town, I'll be too sad | ||
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And even if they are actually scum somehow, they've played really well and I wouldn't be ashamed in losing to them. Literally the only thing I've suspected them on is how little Acro has been posting. - Hiro | ||
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But I'm just going with my read on talismania. At this point he has nothing to lose and can act however townie he wants. I'm shooting talismania. - Hiro | ||
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On July 07 2012 08:17 HomerunBat wrote: If cephiro isn't lying he'll shoot grush, so no worries there. No man, it's not that simple. If dedede is scum, we are so screwed because it's like bus driver wifom that the shooters have to deal with. - Hiro | ||
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Mister Saturn
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But man, I'm just going with what I see here. talismania - scum. grush - dunno lol. HrB - town. Cephiro-scummy. dedede - only reason I'm even considering possibility of scum is because of how capable they are and because of the style vibe I got in the beginning. - Hiro | ||
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On July 07 2012 09:06 HomerunBat wrote: look at it like this. if dedede is scum, then he has to have a partner. It's not me and it's not you Saturn. if its grush: he started the bandwagon on day 2 on him in the first place, without the last minute intervention he'd be dead. could have been a pro bus, but unlikely if it's cephiro: he would be in favor of the tali lynch, instead he called us a derp town and walked away. possible, but still unlikely if it's tali: he was the first to vote for him on day 1, and as a result, tali was in pretty serious danger of being lynched. this is outside of the fact that his filter is green as hell. I really hate thinking about connections so much. Like I never ever try to think about them unless it's absolutely necessary (have dead scum and looking for their partners who I'm unsure on). But this game is practically forcing me to do it since I can't see the flips of the people who get lynched. The stuff you said doesn't really make me think that dedede is scum. From the way he's played he's town, and the connections you've shown also suggest he's town, right? So town. I'm going to shoot talismania (I feel like I've said this so many times, lol). I have a scum read on him and scum are perfectly capable of trying to pull a last-second ploy. They play to their wincons too. - Hiro | ||
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On July 07 2012 13:04 talismania wrote: dedede you need to post to say who you think my partner is since you voted for me. It pretty much has to be cephiro - did you even think about that before you voted? Who else do you think it could be? Hiropro, please consider shooting one of cephiro/acrofales tonight instead of me (lol as if). You can always get me lynched tomorrow. Based on the intra-hydra talk (I ain't ignoring that shit you're all dumb for ignoring any evidence) honestly artanis+acro look the worst. I'm going to switch my carry onto cephiro I guess since it seems like the only thing I can do to convince you guys I'm not scum with him. Hiro I guess that should make your life a lot easier but again please consider just shooting cephiro. That means, [b]grush[b] if you want to hit cephiro again without worrying about the bus driver you can shoot me. Or you can just shoot cephiro. either way. ____________________ Top lessons from this mafia game: 1) Never brag that when you're town, you're so town everyone knows. Apparently that's not always true. 2) When you're town (this goes for everyone in this game) always always always doubt yourself, particularly if you find yourself tunneling the same person for a long time. Assuming I won't be alive tomorrow. It's been fun playing with you! I don't know why I keep posting in this thread, since I'm either pointlessly confirming my correctness or proving even more how wrong and dumb I've been this game. But it's not like I'm even reading any filters or anything at this point, so I might as well do five minutes of speculation. The fact that you think carrying Cephiro is the way to go just makes me go, lol what? If you were town you would realize at this point that dedede+grush is the most plausible scum team. grush+cephiro is so unlikely: no scum team would put 2 KP on their own player when they've already lost 1.5 stock on the other one. Not to mention the fact that it ensures grush has to be bussed. Cephiro+dedede simply has no reason to change the lynch from grush to talismania. You would almost certainly be the lynch right after that and that's even assuming that town doesn't just lose after night, considering that scum has a bus driver to redirect my shot and 2.5 KP of their own.... Dedede+grush at least explains how grush managed to coordinate with the mafia shot, gives a reason for dedede to switch votes, and it's possible dedede just wanted to bus grush and ride by themselves to victory. But instead you pick the person who HomerunBat and I believe to be your partner. Not the people who are most likely to be scum themselves (given the information that you would have as town), but the person who others are calling as your partner. Also, the fact that you are now treating grush as town is incredibly hilarious. If anything, this only further solidifies my belief that you are scum. - Hiro | ||
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Mister Saturn
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But I'm shooting you tonight so either I'm going to find out that the game is still going and thus Cephiro is almost certainly scum or I'm going to find out that town lost. No matter what your alignment is, you're a really dedicated player. If you're town, sorry | ||
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On July 07 2012 13:04 talismania wrote: 1) Never brag that when you're town, you're so town everyone knows. Apparently that's not always true. And I never thought this way because you yourself said it. I thought this way because multiple other people (Kurumi and Acrofales come to mind) said this and because whenever I had played with you or seen you play as the game was going on (Pick Your Poison, Bastard 2, Bang Bang 2) I had identified you correctly as either scum or town. And those were all games where I was town/survivor/spectating. | ||
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