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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:38 GMT
#911
On July 05 2012 15:07 Mister Saturn wrote:
Sigh, whatever, I'll worry about this if grush isn't scum. I have a strong town read on dedede, so that makes Cephiro strong town too.


On July 06 2012 02:17 Mister Saturn wrote:
I don't think it's a ceph/dedede scum team, Risen. I'm fairly certain dedede is town and so Cephiro pretty much has to be too.

I think grush just happened to shoot the same person as scum. I just don't see why scum grush would claim.


So who's my partner then?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:40 GMT
#913
On July 07 2012 06:37 Mister Saturn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:29 talismania wrote:
On July 04 2012 05:06 Mister Saturn wrote:
It's not that I don't want to think for myself. It's that I don't trust myself right now.

But I actually do agree with you on talismania. Maybe it's just me but the fact that he ignores the actually scummy parts of my play (like the fact that I've basically announced I'm sheeping or my uncertainty about HomerunBat) and focuses on pointless stuff makes me think he's scum. And to be honest he's been pretty unhelpful other than the bad case he made on me.

I'm voting for talismania. I'll be back in half an hour.

##Unvote
##Vote talismania


- Hiro


What the fuck is that statement? Maybe I'm just weird but when I'm town I don't really think about the parts of my play that seem scummy haha. I guess some townies have guilty consciences but still this is an odd remark to make.


It's always important to look at the motivations and methods of people who attack you. It's the reason I realized Toad was scum when Radfield made his case in Pick Your Poison.

- Hiro


So you saw that I was calling you scummy and went through and re-read your own filter looking for actually scummy things?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:41 GMT
#915
On July 07 2012 06:38 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 15:07 Mister Saturn wrote:
Sigh, whatever, I'll worry about this if grush isn't scum. I have a strong town read on dedede, so that makes Cephiro strong town too.


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 02:17 Mister Saturn wrote:
I don't think it's a ceph/dedede scum team, Risen. I'm fairly certain dedede is town and so Cephiro pretty much has to be too.

I think grush just happened to shoot the same person as scum. I just don't see why scum grush would claim.


So who's my partner then?


On another note - how do you get from having a strong town read on dedede = cephiro is town?

I mean I agree both are town, but I don't see how you get there from that line of reasoning.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:42 GMT
#916
if you're going with the read of your other head you should stay on grush,
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#919
On July 06 2012 02:27 Mister Saturn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 02:23 Risen wrote:
On July 06 2012 02:17 Mister Saturn wrote:
I don't think it's a ceph/dedede scum team, Risen. I'm fairly certain dedede is town and so Cephiro pretty much has to be too.

I think grush just happened to shoot the same person as scum. I just don't see why scum grush would claim.


Then who's the scum team? Igrok or homerun and tali? Igrok's play doesn't make sense as scum (doesn't make sense as town either, though)


Yea, I think it's iGrok and talis. If somehow it's not iGrok, it's HomerunBat.



Really?

On July 06 2012 07:11 Mister Saturn wrote:
lol did grush forget to send in his action?

anyway talismania is still scum. i guess grush is the other one?

but if he's not then its probably homerunbat.
-strongandbig


Really???

On July 06 2012 23:21 Mister Saturn wrote:
Hm, on a second read-through, the grush-talismania team isn't actually that implausible, considering the amount of thread influence those two had.

I should still talk with s&b, though.


Really?????????
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#921
On July 07 2012 06:44 kingdedede wrote:
I'm going with the fact that he said you always look super townie when you are townie, and that in this game you haven't been. The one thing I know is that he isn't trying to mislead me, which I don't know about anyone else in the game.


That's ridiculous to vote on meta at this point in the game haha. Please at least read through people's filters assuming I'm town and see if it makes sense to you. I am town.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:49 GMT
#925
cephiro you'll have to shoot grush tonight I think. sigh.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:53 GMT
#928
On July 07 2012 06:47 Mister Saturn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:41 talismania wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:38 talismania wrote:
On July 05 2012 15:07 Mister Saturn wrote:
Sigh, whatever, I'll worry about this if grush isn't scum. I have a strong town read on dedede, so that makes Cephiro strong town too.


On July 06 2012 02:17 Mister Saturn wrote:
I don't think it's a ceph/dedede scum team, Risen. I'm fairly certain dedede is town and so Cephiro pretty much has to be too.

I think grush just happened to shoot the same person as scum. I just don't see why scum grush would claim.


So who's my partner then?


On another note - how do you get from having a strong town read on dedede = cephiro is town?

I mean I agree both are town, but I don't see how you get there from that line of reasoning.


Because I didn't consider the possibility that Cephiro might shoot himself if he was scum on a different team. I thought the only way he would do that was if dedede was his partner. And I didn't consider that likely at all.

But this is a game with three stock and it's entirely possible that scum can do this.

- Hiro


dude what if you really are town haha. homerunbat just played us against each other.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:54 GMT
#930
On July 07 2012 06:51 kingdedede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:47 talismania wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:44 kingdedede wrote:
I'm going with the fact that he said you always look super townie when you are townie, and that in this game you haven't been. The one thing I know is that he isn't trying to mislead me, which I don't know about anyone else in the game.


That's ridiculous to vote on meta at this point in the game haha. Please at least read through people's filters assuming I'm town and see if it makes sense to you. I am town.

How is voting based on meta bad? People make cases based on meta all the time and it's one of the strongest indicators in the game. Your filter doesn't scream town. There's a lot of fluff about connections and setup speculation. Some scumhunting which you didn't do in Bang Bang, but you mentioned that was an off game for you. You did do some scumhunting in Pick Your Poison as well so that fits your meta there as well.


it's fine day one is all I'm saying. day two with as much info as we have isn't the best time.

please please please re-read saturn's/grush's filter with the assumption that I am town. Give it a chance.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 21:54 GMT
#931
On July 07 2012 06:53 kingdedede wrote:
If I end up being wrong on this I'm gonna send an anthrax letter to Acro.


Again, he changed his mind on me this game - he wanted to stay on grush. He'll be sending you the letter. As will igrok
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#934
solstice you need to do the same as artanis and actually assume that I'm town and really re-think this game. Unless you're scum in which case well played. Don't get too caught up in your me + cephiro theory to ignore the other possibility. I'm begging you to at least do that.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:02 GMT
#935
On July 07 2012 06:59 kingdedede wrote:
With 6 minutes time from when you posted you can't expect me to reread it that quick.


I can expect you to try. Come on, at least make it a no-lynch.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:05 GMT
#937
see?

Now why would I have voluntarily just claimed my role when I did if I were scum? Think about that for once - please don't ignore all the possible evidence. The game isn't over but it is tilting fast.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:10 GMT
#939
On July 07 2012 07:05 Mister Saturn wrote:
I'm shooting talismania tonight.

- Hiro


You're going to be fucked when I flip then, sorry dude if you're town.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:16 GMT
#941
On July 07 2012 07:10 Cephiro wrote:
Fucking derptown. Let grush run free and lynch the townies. Can't believe this shit.

If it's Saturn+HRB somehow, then gg, it's all up to dedede bus wifom. Saturn shot on talis and KP on grush would make it 2v2 unless dedede does a gosu bus again.


Yeah but I doubt it's actually that pair. I think we have to hope that it's the simplest explanation: saturn + grush. I feel ok losing to the other combos because at least they would have played really really well in that event. Losing to grush like this?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:19 GMT
#942
On July 07 2012 03:18 strongandbig wrote:
i agree with hiro.
sorry i havent been able to post in the qt
my advisor is here so it was impossible to get time at lunch


Post the QT, buddy. Post it.

If you're a town hydra, you should have no reason not to share the QT you've been using to communicate with. You can always switch to a new one if you don't want people reading what you're thinking about using your actions on.

Same goes for the other hydras, although I can understand HRB not wanting to since they haven't claimed yet and I don't want to see acro-artanis if they've already been discussing who they're busing.

But Hiro and Strongandbig, you've admitted you have a QT, so post it.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:25 GMT
#945
oh was it already posted lol?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:30 GMT
#948
relax, I took it to mean he hadn't been able to post in the QT today because he's been busy, not hat he hasn't posted in it at all. I tried the URL in the picture and nothing loads. I just get a blank screen. Might just be technical issue.

Are you saying that you haven't talked to him outside the thread at all?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:33 GMT
#950
Nvm got it to work. But there's nothing in there. Even the post shown in your image doesn't show up. Is it subscriber only or something?

Strongandbig, have you opened the QT hiropro made for you since the game started?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 06 2012 22:34 GMT
#951
On July 07 2012 07:32 Mister Saturn wrote:
I've literally had two PMs with him and they were practically what he's posted in the thread (except for our pregame character picking discussion).

- Hiro


Well can you post those anyways? I don't see how it could hurt if it does just replicate what's in the thread.
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