lol, it's hilarious how you think my behavior is more indicative, but then everything you say you admit yourself to be weak...

Can I talk about what happened to me during setup?

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 16:32 GMT

#333

kk thanks. Knock yourself out with mechanics-hunting, guys!

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 16:41 GMT

#341

On July 04 2012 01:36 talismania wrote:
On a related subject, Mister Saturn do you really think there are two town Samuses? What do you make of Cephiro?

I don't know; it's not inconceivable. He's an interesting guy but I don't have a read on him cause he hasn't taken any concrete stances other than the fact that he liked iGrok's plan.

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 16:47 GMT

#345

On July 04 2012 01:42 HomerunBat wrote:

I don't understand how you can think iGrok is scum and yet aren't pushing him more. I explained a scenario where his actions could be interpreted as town, but you didn't comment on it.

I'm not pushing iGrok more because it doesn't matter; my position in the thread is officially shit and I won't be able to get him lynched. Luckily I have a gun and I can do what I want with it

Yes, I saw your thing about him possibly changing his mind and not wanting to admit it. I don't buy it; first because I don't think iGrok is that stubborn that he wouldn't admit that he changed his read, second the way he talks about me indicates that he still thinks I'm strongly scum.

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 19:08 GMT

#362

I actually agree with grush. Am I crazy -__-

dedede help me out here

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 19:40 GMT

#363

I'm going to get some lunch. Should be back in an hour.

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 20:06 GMT

#367

It's not that I don't want to think for myself. It's that I don't trust myself right now.

But I actually do agree with you on talismania. Maybe it's just me but the fact that he ignores the actually scummy parts of my play (like the fact that I've basically announced I'm sheeping or my uncertainty about HomerunBat) and focuses on pointless stuff makes me think he's scum. And to be honest he's been pretty unhelpful other than the bad case he made on me.

I'm voting for talismania. I'll be back in half an hour.

##Unvote
##Vote talismania

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 20:54 GMT

#383

lol, a public spreadsheet.

s&b is in Switzerland. I dunno when he'll be back. I haven't been able to talk to him since role-picking

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 20:56 GMT

#388

What are the ranks? How much you want to lynch them 1-10?

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 21:45 GMT

#427

you mean plurality lol
-s+b

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 21:46 GMT

#429

hey bros hi
i got to CERN yesterday, worked and then fell asleep. today i also worked and ama about to fall asleep. jetlag can suck balls.

So here's my reads after a quick once over of the thread:
- Risen - probably not scum just an angry townie. I actually disagree with him about the plan thing but if he was scum it would be a pretty dumb thing for him to draw so much attention to himself over. it just wouldn't be worth it.
- Hiropro - idk why he got so mad but whatever he was right.
- igrok: trololol. literally no reason for him to have grabbed us and thought we were scum without saying anything at all about it in the thread. Think he's probably scum.
I think he really did just derp it up when he put himself in the same slot as us for an item since he was so vehemently surprised that he took damage.
I also think that if he's scum there's a decent chance that cephiro may be the scum buddy; dk/samus seems like it makes sense for balance purposes since in terms of sheer firepower the scum having such a low number seems like it requires a vig role on their team.
If cephiro is his scum buddy then it makes even more sense for him to donk on us, then someone can vig shot us and etc.
- MrDedede - his plan for how to use his bus driving power seems pretty antitown since there is so much more vigilante power in the game than there is scum KP power. IMO he should be taking people he thinks are townie and bussing them with people who are unobtrusive and unlikely to get targeted by scum or by town. IMO a town busdriver would be best used as a protective role rather than an offensive role.
Actually wait I think that he should bus drive us with someone scummy and then we should have all our vigs target igrok since that way we don't die when he does.
- grush: could be scum, maybe not, i think he trololols and doesn't try in all his games right?
- deadline is in an hour? I will not be awake for that lol.
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On July 03 2012 08:09 iGrok wrote:
Lol saturn, I completely agree with you on HRB. Disagree on Ceph though, because at least he believes in something enough to put up a bit of a fight.

- why does hiro think his "position in the thread is shit"?

man everyone in this game is so freaking scummy looking. I have like three town reads right now.
talismania looking scummy also - tiny ass filter and then calls us out for being noncommittal between igrok and risen lolwat?

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 21:46 GMT

#431

-s&b

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 22:01 GMT

#447

hm, now we wait for pikachus, lol.

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 22:56 GMT

#487

Leave talismania alone, Risen. If he wants to share the spreadsheet that he and iGrok are using to plan their night kills with us, I don't care.

And any falcons should be hitting iGrok tonight. It doesn't matter if I get hurt. 1:1 trades are good for town.

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 23:01 GMT

#492

On July 04 2012 07:57 Acrofales wrote:

Show nested quote +

I don't think I understand what you want me to do. I don't prevent actions on the recipient, I only move any actions that were on my first target onto the second. So if I bus from player A to player B and player B is getting vigi'd and A is getting medic'd, then player B gets vigi'd and medic'd. If both are getting vigi'd then B gets double vigi'd.

So back to your post: if I drive FROM someone unobtrusive to a town player, I might as well not drive at all. If I drive from someone townie to someone scummy, then any mafia KB will hit the scumster AND any vigi shots aimed at him hit him too!

That is, unless I completely misunderstood Toad's explanation of the bus driver mechanics. Please tell me my explanation is right and the targets aren't just swapped?

Read what s&b said again. I'm pretty sure what he means is that you drive from townies to people you find suspicious. So any scum actions on those townies get done on possible scum instead.

- Hiro

Mister Saturn

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July 03 2012 23:04 GMT

#494

Oh, I didn't realize that's how bus driver worked. I thought it was one way only. Eh, than I guess the way s&b said isn't so good. Do whatever you like, but I don't see an easy way to use it for town purposes.

- Hiro