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MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
June 23 2012 04:34 GMT
#84
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MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
June 30 2012 06:50 GMT
#273
On June 30 2012 14:23 Bill Murray wrote:
VE's selfvote shenanigans is scummy
I do not agree with faking confirmation bias

How was that confirmation bias?
And how have so many people voted on so little evidence.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
June 30 2012 08:07 GMT
#278
On June 30 2012 16:34 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 15:50 MajuGarzett wrote:
On June 30 2012 14:23 Bill Murray wrote:
VE's selfvote shenanigans is scummy
I do not agree with faking confirmation bias

How was that confirmation bias?
And how have so many people voted on so little evidence.

it's a ploy to get people to feel like he wouldnt do that as scum
im not buying it and i see it as being fake and scummy
he is seeking confirmation bias

Wouldn't that only be confirmation bias if people for some reason wanted to believe he's not scum?
Anyways, I feel your vote is rather hasty and so far ill conceived as are all the other votes so far.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
June 30 2012 16:46 GMT
#370
On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE

I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow.

If you're not caught up why did you vote?
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 01 2012 00:09 GMT
#419
On July 01 2012 08:55 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Bill Murray is an idiot, some vig should shoot him tonight. Not worth a lynch as that would probably wreck the thread and waste discussion space.

Do note that mKmKmK has taken his time in responding to the votes he's received. If he were town at the very least he'd call my vote stupid. However he's chosen to lurk the suspicion away which is far more of a scumtell than towntell. In addition notice how he hasn't built up many votes whereas some random noob is racking up votes like a stripper with DDs racks up $2 bills on fight night.

There's some major derailing going on and whoever is responsible is scum.


You're insinuating that mK is scummy because people aren't voting for him? That's rather ridiculous. Your first 4 posts don't do anything at all other than give a completely unsubstantiated vote. Your latest post says BM should be shot because he's an idiot, not because he's scum. You then spew ridiculous comments on mK based on him lurking while there are others who have lurked more. You then talk about derailing in a very vague manner without bothering to direct it anyone.

Your vote is weird and has poor support and your comment about BM is completely at odds with town goals if you don't believe he's scum.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 01 2012 01:15 GMT
#423
On July 01 2012 09:24 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 09:09 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 01 2012 08:55 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Bill Murray is an idiot, some vig should shoot him tonight. Not worth a lynch as that would probably wreck the thread and waste discussion space.

Do note that mKmKmK has taken his time in responding to the votes he's received. If he were town at the very least he'd call my vote stupid. However he's chosen to lurk the suspicion away which is far more of a scumtell than towntell. In addition notice how he hasn't built up many votes whereas some random noob is racking up votes like a stripper with DDs racks up $2 bills on fight night.

There's some major derailing going on and whoever is responsible is scum.


You're insinuating that mK is scummy because people aren't voting for him? That's rather ridiculous. Your first 4 posts don't do anything at all other than give a completely unsubstantiated vote. Your latest post says BM should be shot because he's an idiot, not because he's scum. You then spew ridiculous comments on mK based on him lurking while there are others who have lurked more. You then talk about derailing in a very vague manner without bothering to direct it anyone.

Your vote is weird and has poor support and your comment about BM is completely at odds with town goals if you don't believe he's scum.


I'm insinuating that he's scum because he didn't respond to the votes and he went afk. You think a townie would do that? Did you miss that part of my post?

Initially my vote wasn't based on much but he failed the reaction test pretty hard.

Secondly it is pretty common knowledge that townies jump on other townies day 1. I don't think it's a good idea to carry the BKE bandwagon to fruition as it'll most likely be more of the same as from the past. Why continue a losing trend? Scum who are found d1 are usually found through vague means and then the townies who catch them are killed and the reads are lost forever. Then the remaining sheep continue their witch hunt and lynch more townies.

Regardless of how games usually play out it's still silly to not vote for someone just because it's day 1. Time shouldn't be used to overlook scummy play. You've admitted you made a hasty vote then later support it with the fact that mK has been afk. That isn't proof of anything as he might actually be afk. An actual response might be used for indictment but the lack of a response doesn't really prove anything. You justify your vote badly then say you don't want to vote for BKE because it's the first day, not because he seems like town.

##Vote: NoSmurfHere
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 01 2012 04:57 GMT
#432
On July 01 2012 13:38 s0Lstice wrote:
MajuGarzett: your vote is on NoSmurfHere. What do you make of this?

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.

how quaint.


Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 11:28 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I'm not kidding, my role PM is like "you're a Role Name.".


Acrofales: Vivax has played one game as scum. Either he learned a hell of a lot from that game, or he is matching his town meta pretty damn close. The latter is a simpler explanation. More, in the game he played scum, he spent a looooot of time in the scum QT, hurting his activity in the thread. So far in this game he has been very quick on the uptake, fearless of the consequences of what he has to say. Seems pretty town to me.

Katina: I've done some digging on past games. It's late and it was a lot of reading, but I didn't see anything in your town games that resembles your first post in this game. It's puzzling to me that you lead off your spiel on Broodking with the stated intent that you are sheeping VE. I know you can do better analysis than this because I've seen it. I want to know your other reads.

grush57: You were extremely talkative in the game we played together. You had things to say in LV as well. I don't like your silence, it doesn't become you.

On refresh I see some stuff about Mandalor. I hesitate to jump on him for the post Adam highlighted. The guy hasn't been playing mafia since the first games on TL, so his ideas on day 1 play and policy lynching are bound to be archaic. I want to see more from him before deciding.

I want to kill mKmKmK or Katina today. I'm leaning more towards Katina, but I'd be ok with either.



People claim VT all the time, to me it didn't signify much. My decision was based on other stuff.

I think people should remove votes from casualman. He's probably going to get shot anyways so people should be voting for others. Especially Broodking. When under so much pressure he chose a rather easy vote on someone who's just being weird. I want to see a better vote from him.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 01 2012 05:14 GMT
#435
On July 01 2012 14:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 13:57 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 01 2012 13:38 s0Lstice wrote:
MajuGarzett: your vote is on NoSmurfHere. What do you make of this?

On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.

how quaint.


On June 30 2012 11:28 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I'm not kidding, my role PM is like "you're a Role Name.".


Acrofales: Vivax has played one game as scum. Either he learned a hell of a lot from that game, or he is matching his town meta pretty damn close. The latter is a simpler explanation. More, in the game he played scum, he spent a looooot of time in the scum QT, hurting his activity in the thread. So far in this game he has been very quick on the uptake, fearless of the consequences of what he has to say. Seems pretty town to me.

Katina: I've done some digging on past games. It's late and it was a lot of reading, but I didn't see anything in your town games that resembles your first post in this game. It's puzzling to me that you lead off your spiel on Broodking with the stated intent that you are sheeping VE. I know you can do better analysis than this because I've seen it. I want to know your other reads.

grush57: You were extremely talkative in the game we played together. You had things to say in LV as well. I don't like your silence, it doesn't become you.

On refresh I see some stuff about Mandalor. I hesitate to jump on him for the post Adam highlighted. The guy hasn't been playing mafia since the first games on TL, so his ideas on day 1 play and policy lynching are bound to be archaic. I want to see more from him before deciding.

I want to kill mKmKmK or Katina today. I'm leaning more towards Katina, but I'd be ok with either.



People claim VT all the time, to me it didn't signify much. My decision was based on other stuff.

I think people should remove votes from casualman. He's probably going to get shot anyways so people should be voting for others. Especially Broodking. When under so much pressure he chose a rather easy vote on someone who's just being weird. I want to see a better vote from him.


You say people should be voting for others, particularly Brood, when your own vote is on me.

There's a whole bunch of problems with this. First of all, you're telling people to vote Brood and not me, which means you either don't have confidence in my read and your vote shouldn't be on me in the first place or you're scum who doesn't want to vote for brood.

Secondly you say that he chose an easy vote on someone who's just being weird. Isn't that EXACTLY what a vote on Brood is? A vote on someone who is being "weird"?

Do you read your own posts?

I phrased that badly. I meant Brood should vote for someone other than casualman since by voting for casual he really doesn't give any information since casual seems to be messing around. Sorry for the poor wording.

Brood has been weird in the sense that he seems scummy. Casualman is weird in the sense that he hasn't done shit.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 02 2012 00:04 GMT
#647
I don't want mK lynched, it seems he might die anyways. My vote seems to have gathered no traction so maybe I just have really bad reads. BKE is actually posting so if he is scum it should be possible to read him later.

##vote foxtrotter
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 02 2012 20:52 GMT
#862
Just caught up with a lot of posts. I feel that wiggles is pretty scummy.

On July 03 2012 03:17 Mattchew wrote:
I have a question for the thread, drwig is attempting to push my lynch for information and in his mind clear my list when i flip scum like he thinks. If my lynch were to occur, I would flip town and therefore my list would become more validated with him as a prime target as scum, is there any logical reason for a scum who knows this (that im town) to push this idea and put himself into the spotlight for lynching?

While trying to lynch Matt may not make sense a lot of the stuff that wiggles said didn't really make sense either. He contradicts himself and wants to lynch someone solely to get info that wouldn't actually be gleaned from Matt's death. It may not make sense for scum to do this but nether does it make sense for town to do this. Assuming he's not a smurf, he really wouldn't have much experience being mafia. Being new to mafia myself when I was scum I just tried to pick someone to force a lynch on. I feel this may have been what happened with wiggles.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 03 2012 00:56 GMT
#930
On July 03 2012 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, you can't make me Marv.

I've fucked TWO games now pushing lynches that were never going to happen, you're not going to talk me into doing it this game.

I'd be interested in a NoSmurfHere lynch. I backed off him as I had no support.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 03 2012 18:24 GMT
#1060
On July 03 2012 22:41 Hyaach wrote:
I don't know man, i have a heavy reliance on page 1 and day/night post. I dont keep spreadsheets.

Hey Maju. Thoughts on nosmurfhere?

Don't really suspect him anymore. I know we're supposed to stop talking about the role pm's but its kinda hard to forget about it. If wiggles said he got a similar pm to smurf its unlikely that smurf was scum who posted that to seem more town like and randomly had another player who actually got a pm just saying role name.

I just wanted to respond to this quickly, I still have to catch up a bit.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 09:13 GMT
#1171
On July 04 2012 17:51 casualman wrote:
Is kurumi that bad at mafia normally

If not then she's scum

You calling anyone's play bad is rather odd.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 09:32 GMT
#1173
I like the lynching of twelve the best right now. One of the things that stands out to me in his filter was

On July 04 2012 15:15 Twelve wrote:
I'm still thinking on this. I think casualman probably still our most likely scum lynch. I'll get back to you tomorrow morning on the info lynch.


His last previous mention of casual was

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 02 2012 04:59 Twelve wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon.



Incorrect sir, even if casualman is scum, he doesn't appear to be smart enough to really pose too much of a threat and doesn't really seem worth a day 1 lynch. Again there is no reason that anyone would vote for themselves as town, and no one has really tried to defend that vote, just make accusations against the people that notice it? I don't understand. If there is a legitmate reason town would vote for themselves, please, change my mind.

He says casual isn't worth a day 1 lynch but for some unexplained reason thinks he's worth a day 2 lynch.

He attacks NoSmurfHere for starting bandwagons when trying to find scum really shouldn't be suspicious at all.
He also claims to have found FT scummy before he ever saw the bandwagon but never bothered to mention FT at all. As town he really shouldn't be afraid to share his reads.

##Vote: Twelve
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 09:32 GMT
#1174
Also casual is a shitty target for a lynch so I didn't like that about twelve either.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 19:20 GMT
#1234
On July 05 2012 04:10 Katina wrote:
I'm looking over his filter and seeing that he has a decent amount of posts. The contents of his posts seems like they are sincere. He gives his opinions and looks like he is putting effort into scum hunting. For now I would say town until I see something that erks me.

You don't find his sudden conclusions suspicious? There's no reason for so much of the stuff he says and his opinions fluctuate wildly. How does that not irk you?
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 21:24 GMT
#1251
You voted with the wrong account acro.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 21:26 GMT
#1253
I find ET scummy in his lack of scumhunting but his thoughts on wiggles followed a similar thought process to mine so right no I like 12 more.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 21:27 GMT
#1254
Plus 12 has a lot of contradictions and unexplained stuff that makes me suspicious.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 21:31 GMT
#1255
Also, ET may have jumped on lynches but that could merely stem from agreeing with the bandwagons. Though scummy, there is a somewhat sensible explanation. As a townie 12's actions really shouldn't be happening.
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