EPTI want to lynch into Grush/Casual tomorrow. Neither of them are to be alive at LYLO. If we're beyond that point and they're both town, we lose. Simple as that.
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VisceraEyes
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I want to lynch into Grush/Casual tomorrow. Neither of them are to be alive at LYLO. If we're beyond that point and they're both town, we lose. Simple as that. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Katina attacked casualman pretty hard when she was hard defending herself, so that seems to indicate town casual...I think between the two I prefer Grush. ##Vote: grush However I want peoples' opinions. Is it possible Katina was trying to bus casual (arguably a super easy lynch if she didn't have a check on her) in an attempt to obfuscate Hyaach's check (she lynched scum, maybe she's a miller?) and save herself (she was a scum power role?) Is that feasible even? Grush comes off as scummier than casual, so that's where my vote is...but if the above scenario seems likely to anyone let me know. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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To be honest, I wasn't sure what to think of Hyaach's claim. First of all, I had a tentative town read on Katina, and his check contradicted my read. Secondly, he didn't seem to be factoring in the possibility of millers/framers which is another point against him (read LI where I faked a DT claim and Bugs called my shit on it). After reading his filter and Katina's responses however, I accepted that he might be DT, which was why I didn't want to lynch him. I think you're right regarding casual, which is why I voted for grush before even mentioning it. However, I do still want others' opinions on the matter. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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##Unvote grush ##Vote Maju | ||
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VisceraEyes
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I mentioned him earlier, but he's kinda felt a little townie in his posting. A little bit...way more so than previous lynches anyway, so he fell off my radar. But reading his filter BROUGHT IT ALL BACK BABY! + Show Spoiler [Previous posts on the matter] + On July 05 2012 13:56 VisceraEyes wrote: This defense of NSH is completely out of place considering your "read" of NSH up to this point. Explain. I've taken the liberty of highlighting something I missed before, which is what I perceive to be a scumslip. It seems to me that if he were town trying to discern 12's alignment he would say something like "If he's town" or "Assuming he's town"…but he says "As town" as if he knows he's town. Minor, but it's also in a spoiler. On July 06 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote: VisceraEyes Scum-O-Meter The Good Guys VisceraEyes ghost403 Kurumi austinmcc NoSmurfHere Acrofales Mattchew These are the people that I read as town. The Bad Guys MajuGarzett Vivax casualman ShiaoPi These are people that for one reason or another I have a scum read on. I support killing these players with zero remorse. Vivax I've provided reasoning for. I was dissatisfied with Maju's response to my question of him...his read on NSH was such that he wanted to lynch him earlier in the day, but then decided out of nowhere and for very little reason that he was wrong and in fact DEFENDED NSH late in the day when the vote-switch stuff was happening (I think). He's my strongest read as of right now, but he's also the one who has the highest probability of changing my mind if he can explain himself more thoroughly. Casualman has almost no content by which to judge him. Yet he's voting and posting every cycle. Scummy. Kill him. ShiaoPi defended BM early on, and has been a non-presence in the game for most of it. My weakest read. The Players Katina grush57 Twelve Hyaach BroodKingEXE Mandalor These are people who I do NOT have a read on. They're listed in order from greenest to reddest…though I'd call all of them null reads ultimately. Katina used to be a town read, but her burst in activity seems as convenient as her choice in lynches. I've moved her to a null leaning town read. I call them "the players" because unless they're NK'd (not likely as most of them have some form of suspicion on them save grush) then along with "The Bad Guys" they make up who are going to survive to LYLO if we keep mislynching by my estimation. On July 01 2012 09:09 MajuGarzett wrote: You're insinuating that mK is scummy because people aren't voting for him? That's rather ridiculous. Your first 4 posts don't do anything at all other than give a completely unsubstantiated vote. Your latest post says BM should be shot because he's an idiot, not because he's scum. You then spew ridiculous comments on mK based on him lurking while there are others who have lurked more. You then talk about derailing in a very vague manner without bothering to direct it anyone. Your vote is weird and has poor support and your comment about BM is completely at odds with town goals if you don't believe he's scum. This is a pretty hardish defense of BM, which I missed before. Also this post feels awfully defensive to NSH's sentiment when he said it himself - NSH didn't really direct the post at anyone, just made an observation. So why is he taking issue with this post exactly? Between this post: On July 03 2012 09:56 MajuGarzett wrote: I'd be interested in a NoSmurfHere lynch. I backed off him as I had no support. And this post, On July 04 2012 03:24 MajuGarzett wrote: Don't really suspect him anymore. I know we're supposed to stop talking about the role pm's but its kinda hard to forget about it. If wiggles said he got a similar pm to smurf its unlikely that smurf was scum who posted that to seem more town like and randomly had another player who actually got a pm just saying role name. I just wanted to respond to this quickly, I still have to catch up a bit. ...there's literally nothing. Not one mention of NSH, no struggling to figure out his alignment…he just goes from wanting to lynch the guy to "Don't really suspect him anymore". Why? Oh, role-PMs…got it…the things that scum get fake-claims about. Right. No. This is ridiculous, and after this he switches gears to DEFENDING NSH? All because NSH said he got a similar ROLE PM to someone else? This is a classic case of scum trying to justify having more information than they should. His read of NSH changes based on nothing - but he wants to look good defending someone everyone else thinks is town, so he fabricates something based on BS to justify his read. MajuGarzett is scum. He defended BM. He hard-flipped on NSH to the point of chainsaw defending him against Twelve. It's time he dies. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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This statement is retarded. First of all, I'm town - so if he flips scum then it's not "a bus" Secondly, the statement implies that you have knowledge of my alignment (bus) but not MG's (If). What did you mean by "if it was a bus"? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On July 13 2012 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote: "If it was a bus"? This statement is retarded. First of all, I'm town - so if he flips scum then it's not "a bus" Secondly, the statement implies that you have knowledge of my alignment (bus) but not MG's (If), and if this is the case why is your vote not on me? What did you mean by "if it was a bus"? EBWOP: I forgot to finish this thought in my anger LOL I've fixed it to read what it should read | ||
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VisceraEyes
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The fact that he thinks I'm playing and analyzing is moot if he disagrees with my case and just saying that and disappearing is not contributory. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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The statement implies that you believe that I'm scum (because you used the word "bus") but don't know regarding MG (because you used the word "If"). You're right though, it could be viewed the other way around (that you're more sure of MG and not about me) so nevermind. We're good as long as you're voting for MG. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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I was hesitant to vote Katina because I had a town read on Katina. I don't care if you find that suspicious. Does anyone find Maju's defense compelling? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Now, who wants to be the one to say "Boy, this seems too easy"? Me, I guess. Boy, this seems too easy. Maju barely said anything in his defense, no one is resisting. If he's scum, I appreciate his buddies being so cool about it. ^^ | ||
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VisceraEyes
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I realize that's kinda an easy, cop-out answer but I'm trying to take it a little slower this game. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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The case is stronger, I'm just more comfortable. Do you not want to lynch Maju? Is that what you're saying Acro? That's not what you whispered softly in my ear earlier. Sweet, sweet sincerity. Delicious intrigue. Unnecessary resistance. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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But you know, whatever.  | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On July 16 2012 08:33 NoSmurfHere wrote: I'd say you weren't reading very well when all of your scumreads were townies and your townreads contained like 2-3 scum in them. Acro a baus. *shrug* | ||
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