EPT12 where did your NSH read go? You said you still think he's scum but you never followed up with a case or vote or anything?
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12 where did your NSH read go? You said you still think he's scum but you never followed up with a case or vote or anything? | ||
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Twelve does look worse by virtue of posting alone...and removing meta he's probably the better lynch. b:/ | ||
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On July 04 2012 18:32 MajuGarzett wrote: I like the lynching of twelve the best right now. One of the things that stands out to me in his filter was His last previous mention of casual was + Show Spoiler + On July 02 2012 04:59 Twelve wrote: + Show Spoiler + He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon. Incorrect sir, even if casualman is scum, he doesn't appear to be smart enough to really pose too much of a threat and doesn't really seem worth a day 1 lynch. Again there is no reason that anyone would vote for themselves as town, and no one has really tried to defend that vote, just make accusations against the people that notice it? I don't understand. If there is a legitmate reason town would vote for themselves, please, change my mind. He says casual isn't worth a day 1 lynch but for some unexplained reason thinks he's worth a day 2 lynch. He attacks NoSmurfHere for starting bandwagons when trying to find scum really shouldn't be suspicious at all. He also claims to have found FT scummy before he ever saw the bandwagon but never bothered to mention FT at all. As town he really shouldn't be afraid to share his reads. ##Vote: Twelve This defense of NSH is completely out of place considering your "read" of NSH up to this point. Explain. | ||
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I'm not crazy right, that response was insufficient? If we have another vig, I'd really like him to consider paying Maju a visit. :/ | ||
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Kurumi thoughts on Maju? | ||
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Vigs/hatters should be shooting/bombing into lurkers if we have any left, but I'm not counting on that. I think our killing is going to be done through lynches unless there's a hatter out there. DTs should have a good idea what they should be doing by this point: but when in doubt, check someone you DO NOT HAVE A READ ON. I don't mean people you can't get a read on (Kurumi, casualman come to mind), but people who have content and you can't decide on their intentions based on what you know. And as always, feel free to completely disregard this advice too, because as I said - you should probably have an idea as to who to check by now. I'm working on my final thoughts post, but I wanted to get some of the house-cleaning stuff out of the way before I post that. As a preface though, I think we should focus on FACTS tomorrow: who the flipped scums have focused on and pushed, and what it means. BM and Adam both posted, and Adam at least had one or two good pushes to his name, so I think there might be some good connections in the thread right now to look at. | ||
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That being said, Vivax' activity has kept him off my radar as far as lynches go, but his content and methodology still read scummy to me...this is an interesting connection you've noticed, it's certainly one I'm going to keep in mind. Mainly because Acro has read as town to me all game. :/ | ||
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The Good Guys VisceraEyes ghost403 Kurumi austinmcc NoSmurfHere Acrofales Mattchew These are the people that I read as town. The Bad Guys MajuGarzett Vivax casualman ShiaoPi These are people that for one reason or another I have a scum read on. I support killing these players with zero remorse. Vivax I've provided reasoning for. I was dissatisfied with Maju's response to my question of him...his read on NSH was such that he wanted to lynch him earlier in the day, but then decided out of nowhere and for very little reason that he was wrong and in fact DEFENDED NSH late in the day when the vote-switch stuff was happening (I think). He's my strongest read as of right now, but he's also the one who has the highest probability of changing my mind if he can explain himself more thoroughly. Casualman has almost no content by which to judge him. Yet he's voting and posting every cycle. Scummy. Kill him. ShiaoPi defended BM early on, and has been a non-presence in the game for most of it. My weakest read. The Players Katina grush57 Twelve Hyaach BroodKingEXE Mandalor These are people who I do NOT have a read on. They're listed in order from greenest to reddest…though I'd call all of them null reads ultimately. Katina used to be a town read, but her burst in activity seems as convenient as her choice in lynches. I've moved her to a null leaning town read. I call them "the players" because unless they're NK'd (not likely as most of them have some form of suspicion on them save grush) then along with "The Bad Guys" they make up who are going to survive to LYLO if we keep mislynching by my estimation. | ||
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But obviously I think he's scum, so.... | ||
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On July 06 2012 10:07 Vivax wrote: Nice medic save, but the vigi got roleblocked? 1) we don't know if there was a medic save or if Austin was double-stacked or what...why do you assume medic save? 2) I don't know why you're expecting a vigi hit tonight specifically, but as far as I know our claimed vig has shot already and I assume that means he's out...but I certainly wasn't expecting a vig shot tonight, so why were you? Austin put in a lot of time and effort tonight. I'm going to go back over his last few posts carefully - see if there's something there I didn't pick up the first time through. He made a lot of good points though, I'm not surprised by the hit at all. | ||
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On June 13 2012 06:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Lion Tamer (Vigilante): You are a Lion Tamer! After years of training fearsome beasts, you've mastered the ability to direct them to do as you please! Once per game at night, you may let your lions loose on one player and he'll become dinner. Your lions will be refunded if someone else gets to your target first. On July 04 2012 06:25 ghost_403 wrote: I didn't vote for BM, I shot him. Catching up, brb. | ||
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BKE is who I want to lynch today. ##Vote BroodKingEXE His last post is also agreeing with NSH about the number of lurkers, leading me to believe that at least half the remaining scum are active scum. Just sayin. | ||
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I'd like NSH to comment - the fact that neither of us died is either really good or really bad for town...we're going to be able to put something serious together today with all the information we have today. If we're both town, scum made a serious miscalculation. | ||
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On July 07 2012 00:09 Kurumi wrote: Our tries so far were a failure but our work has ended. It was a pleasure to work with you. Most of you. We shall observe, but not interfere. ...and suddenly, VE's town-read on Kurumi because a scum-read with only one post. So Kurumi, because we mislynched you're going to give up and try and shirk responsibility for doing anything the rest of the game? | ||
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On July 07 2012 07:25 NoSmurfHere wrote: He doesn't play like this as town from what I recall. He posts more and at the very least he posts as if he has some portion of a functioning cerebrum. In this game he's done literally nothing. I liked Kurumi's post, it actually made me question my read on BKE. However the problem I have is that in past games scum are identified as people who need to die but they never die, thus winning the game later. I see that problem with grush. It's potentially true with casualman too but he apparently trolls just as hard normally. So you're saying you don't want to vote for BKE on the basis that "Oh sure he's probably scum, but this guy needs to die FIRST" ....is that what's going on here? | ||
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##Vote: Katina Further thoughts to follow. | ||
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