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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 00:27 GMT
#1284
Spell out ET then
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 00:41 GMT
#1295
What do you say? We kill BKE if Twelve flips town?

If ET flips scum, then we lynch BKE too.

If Twelve flips scum we can assume BKE is town.

If ET flips town, then he only pushed cases against townies and it's bad luck.

On July 01 2012 03:45 EchelonTee wrote:
Bke is a classic d1 lynch; hard to clearly read, an active poster with strange accusations and minor breaches in logic that show only slight scumminess, but a lot of people jump on anyways. his opening post was strange, but it's not nearly as conclusive as other opening scum posts have been in the past (zealos, macpo). I find his posting scummish, but not conclusive enough for a d1 lynch, and very low on info to boot.

BM would be informative, mK would be accurate. Putting on my vote for mK.

Hi adam.


- BKE soft defense
- BM considered an option cause informative (not scummy)
- mK considered scum

Town ET would surprise me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 01:06 GMT
#1303
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 10:33 GMT
#1347
On July 05 2012 10:51 Katina wrote:
but I'm sure we at least got two Mafia in casualman, Mandalor, and BKE if not all three.


Katina, don't you think Kurumi and VE act somewhat funny?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 10:35 GMT
#1348
Btw, twelve avoided Kurumi's question about what he thinks of ET. He only kept saying that he wants to lynch BKE.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 11:03 GMT
#1351
Ok, so twelve considered his life to be more valuable than that of somebody he believed to be town.

This is arguably not pro-town, but a lot of townies might have done the same in his spot.

Katina, can you post a list of your opinions regarding all players?
Needless to say I might use it against you, it really depends on what you write there.
You don't need to give long explanations, just guess the players' alignment.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 16:29 GMT
#1359
You wouldn't expect a mafia to ask vigi to shoot one of them right? That's the point to Adam's defense.


Gonna post more about connections with Adam before the daypost.

Need Katina to post her list of people + believed alignment to decide if she's scum or not.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 16:51 GMT
#1361
I'm still not sure if twelve is scum, but he is most likely of opposite alignment to BKE for keeping his focus on him the entire time.

And BKE is for sure of opposite alignment to katina, cause of this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&currentpage=22#429

And maybe of opposite alignment to grush, who called BKE out once:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&currentpage=26#515

NSH already suggested the version where twelve AND ET are townies, so we just have to detect scum skating by.

I suggest we start by lynching BKE, the other scum players are:

Mattchew, ShiaoPi, Maju/casualman/grush.

If you wonder about Mattchew: He just complained about the ET lynch when he had his vote ticked on him. Looks like he doesn't care much about the town agenda he tries to fake.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 16:53 GMT
#1362
Maju first, grush last btw.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 17:21 GMT
#1369
Apologies, Matt, just saw other posts while looking through your filter:

On July 04 2012 12:09 Mattchew wrote:
I completely forgot adam was in this game, I have NEVER seen him play like this before. He is ALWAYS helpful, active and extremely townie as town


On July 05 2012 00:06 Mattchew wrote:
I am uncomfortable with twelves defense being so passive. He seems to not want to piss anyone off even when they call him scum and vote for him. This is continuing his play before he was a suspect, which means he is either actually in over his head newbie townie that just wants to help but doesnt know help, or scum who is afraid to vote and accuse townies.

I think we should be voting ET or Adam, because BOTH of them have been useless this game and this is EXTREMELY out of character for them.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 17:37 GMT
#1371
@ ghost

BM wanting to vig Adam doesn't have much to do with that.
I was referring to Matt not acting as if he believed ET to be scum for real, like when he put that vote.

Anyway, I had reason to think that twelve was town cause of the reasons here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&currentpage=63#1242

ET might have been modkilled, but a mislynch and a modkill would have been worse than this.

Twelve managed to make himself look really scummy, the only thing preventing his lynch was the NSH-ringleader-theory being proven wrong and the rastaban nightkill (A would-be-weird-mistake by scum).

Problem with this is that it assumes that scum acts consistently with previous actions from the members. They'd probably be better off not making sense at all. So I don't know if twelve is a newb or a good scum actor. But if they wanted to plant that 'false evidence', then why was I the first to mention that to Twelve's defense, and not twelve himself?

It will come down to lynching either him or BKE I guess. I prefer BKE.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 17:53 GMT
#1373
No, the two posts I quoted before proved me wrong. He suggested an Adam lynch when there was zero momentum on one.

Not scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 19:10 GMT
#1378
Katina, if I were you I'd go through Adam's filter and check the opinion on the players again. There's some stuff speaking against the list you've made.

Vivax, you list these reasons why 12 is town but why wouldn't a scum want to draw suspicion to townies and to try to divide the vote to inhibit progress?


Well, he didn't draw suspicion, his 'case' with a NSH-ringleader was a giant blooper and noone believed it, additionally, noone had any interest in lynching rastaban or NSH

Then rasta got killed, proving Twelve's theory to be incorrect in both points. Why kill someone you lose cred for?
And as already said, if that weird post was intentional, then Twelve would have used it to his defense earlier.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 20:36 GMT
#1382
Kurumi asked for your opinion regarding ET. You dodged it by saying you want a BKE lynch and talking about scout honor. It might mean that you tried to keep your hands clean knowing that ET will flip green.

Anyway, why don't you give us a nice list like katina, since the only case you had so far was against BKE and you seem to be keeping your opinions about others to yourself.

What I know of your stances:

You think katina is town.

Casualman scum.

BKE scum.

What about the others?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 21:02 GMT
#1386
More direct reads coming before the day post so I don't help scum at choosing targets.

They will also involve connections with adam, already written, just need to paste.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 21:24 GMT
#1389
You raised some good points, but I don't think Acro is scum cause he begged for vigi to shoot BM most of the time.

And as to myself. Well, I really hope I didn't save a scum player from getting lynched. But I might also have saved a townie.
Time will show ...and the right lynches.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 21:25 GMT
#1390
Let's hope mafia doesn't have a roleblocker btw. Ghost can really make the difference tonight.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 21:30 GMT
#1392
austin, use the link to the post. I asked acro directly cause it was shortly after he posted something, so I knew he would read it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 21:51 GMT
#1396
@ BKE

Why don't you go read it. The reasons for suspecting ET shortly before he got lynched are in my filter.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
July 05 2012 22:03 GMT
#1400
On July 06 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
VisceraEyes Scum-O-Meter

The Guys I think mafia should shoot tonight
VisceraEyes
ghost403
Kurumi
austinmcc
NoSmurfHere
Acrofales
Mattchew



Fixed.

There's a reason I'm keeping the townreads to myself still, you should have posted this list right before the daypost.

You don't think it's a bad idea to post it now?
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