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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 01 2012 15:52 GMT
#478
Ok, VE. I was sloppy with that one.

But I still don't like the bigger picture when I look at acrofales' behavior in that mess.

On July 02 2012 00:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
We should all be voting for BillMurray to ensure town victory.


I'll only be voting for BM if you state in Capslock and bold text that town should lynch you if BM flips green.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 01 2012 15:54 GMT
#479
Also, for an experienced player, you seem to disregard the kenpachi rule by completely ignoring mK.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 01 2012 23:18 GMT
#598
I feel the case on foxtrotter is more of a lurker lynch than anything else. You want to lynch him based on one post where he does something he's not alone with.

I'd prefer if people evaluated the cases against mK and Mandalor now. Mandalor's first posts before he got called out didn't ring town to me. On the other hand some people seem to swear on the kenpachi rule. I don't mind seeing how it works out this time with a mK lynch. mK also renounced in defending himself, I take that as a confirmation for scummy behavior.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 01 2012 23:32 GMT
#607
On July 02 2012 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, you clearly don't understand where I'm coming from them. It's a mindset thing. It's not the fact he's lurking, it's the tone of his post and how he puts it across.


Yea, zero contribution while jumping on one of the bandwagons pretty clearly and apologizing for late post.

I'd probably be able to call out multiple others doing the same, so I don't get why you chose this one out of them. But probably it's cause you took a quick look after the replacement, and he's the last one behaving so bandwagony.

No, actually there's grush doing the same after him.

Why not suspect grush when you have the same reasons? Cause he posted less information?

I get the part of your argument where FT jumps on the bandwagon, but why don't you accuse grush of the same? Did you ignore his posts?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 01 2012 23:37 GMT
#610
EBWOP/addendum: I'm not saying that grush and FT voted the same. But grush jumped on the mK bandwagon with a simple

On July 02 2012 05:51 grush57 wrote:
Alright
##Vote: Mkmkmknmkmkmkmk


And he did that after he wrote:

On July 02 2012 04:05 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 04:03 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Your two posts on me:

On June 30 2012 15:31 Twelve wrote:
My initial thoughts are to be suspicious of Kurumi. He takes three posts to say very little, seeming to want to contribute without actually offering anything. I also agree that BroodKingEXE is suspicious for the same reasons, a long ranting post on a topic that he didn't seemed concerned about before the game started. I'm going to read the thread a bit more... just my initial thoughts.


Does it matter what I was interested in before game? I wasn't scum or townie before the game, so it wouldn't reveal anything about more alignment.

On July 01 2012 08:24 Twelve wrote:
On July 01 2012 08:12 BroodKingEXE wrote:
I think a vote count would be appropriate:

Votecount:

VisceraEyes: VisceraEyes ,Bill Murray
mKmKmK(2): NoSmurfHere, rastaban
BroodKEXE(4): Katina, casualman, VisceraEyes , ShiaoPi, Drwiggl3s
Bill Murray(1): Acrofales
Acrofales(1): Bill Murray
casualman(3): Mattchew, BroodKingEXE, casualman



This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!"

On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town?


Your going to vote for me for posting a votecount? Funny how you ninja vote right after it, maybe you saw the count and thought you could get away with it while everyone was using it to get a gauge on the accusations. A vote is a powerful indicator of whether you are scum or not, a townie doesn't need to hide it as it reveals their townieness.

Y u so scum bro


About one hour difference between the votes.

Why, marv, why did you overlook him?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 01 2012 23:38 GMT
#614
EBWOP: Not votes. Rather 'implicit reflection of his opinion' lol.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 01 2012 23:40 GMT
#617
You want to suppress me from posting information regarding them or what?

I may ask question for things I find suspicious, or may I not? I'm not asking for a vote/lynch, I'm just asking questions, and information is always town's concern.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 00:03 GMT
#646
Shiao, I'll just let you know that I don't like your posts.

Whatever you do,I'll be watching.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 00:15 GMT
#658
What's the plan now?

If FT flips town, we lynch mK?

If FT flips scum, he might have tried to bus mK or mK is town?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 00:23 GMT
#664
If I could pick someone to lynch now, it's be Mandalor.

That said, I don't like how people skipped over Mattchew's posts to start a bandwagon on FT. I think his posts were a lot better than the following regarding FT.

There are better cases out there. Not gonna vote for one I believe to be bad.

Also, I don't think a town marv would try to provoke me whenever I try to discuss something outside of smalltalk.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 09:49 GMT
#734
Poor poor acrofales.

Posting such a huge case and then he gets zero attention for it

I'll give you some:
Get your things straight, thinking I'd be mafia is ridiculous.

Let's string up people for the FT mislynch.I told you the cases against him were bullshit and more of a policy lynch than anything else.

That said, marv, I don't see you drawing conclusions after his death, but you criticisized mine before his death for being premature.

You contribute zero to town except for causing bandwagons, and your posts are numerous, but not helpful.
I'll anticipate what I'm gonna do day2.

##Vote marvellosity
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 09:57 GMT
#739
On July 02 2012 18:56 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 18:49 Vivax wrote:
Poor poor acrofales.

Posting such a huge case and then he gets zero attention for it

I'll give you some:
Get your things straight, thinking I'd be mafia is ridiculous.

Let's string up people for the FT mislynch.I told you the cases against him were bullshit and more of a policy lynch than anything else.

That said, marv, I don't see you drawing conclusions after his death, but you criticisized mine before his death for being premature.

You contribute zero to town except for causing bandwagons, and your posts are numerous, but not helpful.
I'll anticipate what I'm gonna do day2.

##Vote marvellosity


Don't worry, I'll push it when people start waking up. DrWiggl3s burying it in spam is not making you look any better either.


Ok, kingdede.

Why don't you keep pushing your BM policy lynch like day 1? You seem to have a lot of backup from people like VE.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 10:04 GMT
#743
On July 02 2012 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, you clearly don't understand where I'm coming from them. It's a mindset thing. It's not the fact he's (Foxtrotter) lurking, it's the tone of his post and how he puts it across.



Where do you come from then, where they teach you to make such bad subjective reads?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 10:19 GMT
#749
On July 02 2012 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, again you're not getting it.


On July 02 2012 08:41 marvellosity wrote:
Please learn to read properly before asking questions.


On July 02 2012 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, how about we don't try to draw connections before anyone's even flipped, eh?

Your premises are terrible anyway.


On July 02 2012 19:01 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax - roflofloflofloflofloflofl is what I have to say to you.


On July 02 2012 19:10 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax - policy ignoring you now for being stupid. kthxbye


The guy marv pushed turned out to be a mislynched lurker.

Note: Designed for town and the vigi. Gonna repost if it gets buried under misleading posts.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 10:50 GMT
#757
On July 02 2012 19:39 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Vivax:
I do not agree on your read on marv, sure he led a mislynch, but being wrong is no scumtrait. Also the way it unfolded marv looked really town just go and check his filter.


'Being wrong is no scumtrait'.

What kind of generalization is that. There were no good objective reasons to kill foxtrotter, and I kept asking marv about his reasons.

He wasn't just wrong with his bad 'read', he also openly refused to justify his case by insulting me whenever I asked him something.

And I'm writing this to town players, not to ShiaoPi.


Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 11:07 GMT
#763
On July 02 2012 19:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
And tell me that is "no reason" to lynch somebody, and if you cba to read marv, I'll put it shortly:
-lurking
-calling out a lurker and voting him, while doing nothing else himself
-simple sheeping


The point is, marv said that these weren't the reasons. His final resons were FT's 'mindset' and 'intentions'.

I already asked marv why he didn't target others who fulfilled the above criteria (lurking etc.), and instead got a bandwagon up on a specific one of them. I also mentioned grush as one of them.

Instead of explaining why he picked FT over others, he said that these weren't his reasons for picking him and justified it with his gut feeling.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 11:12 GMT
#767
Don't even know why I reply to someone who I believe to be scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 11:43 GMT
#773
Yeah, it's a super cool story.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 12:03 GMT
#778
On July 02 2012 21:01 marvellosity wrote:
Kurumi, you are misrepresenting my post in isolation a little bit there, my dear.


How about you comment on the other two.

They are valid lynch candidates for me. Count me in.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
July 02 2012 19:44 GMT
#838
NoSmurf, that post of yours sucked. You also jumped on the bandwagon against foxtrot pretty late.

Enough for me to unvote marv and vote for you next day. I think you should post more.
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