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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
June 17 2012 12:36 GMT
#1201
Really glad that shot was made. I just don't understand his reasoning...
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 17 2012 12:46 GMT
#1202
LOL
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#1203
On June 17 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
The whole storyline after MZ shot SS is weird. Kita, who have been almost non-existant during the game suddenly became the most vocal to tell everyone how scummy MZ was and that we should all kill him. It just seem weird that Kita suddenly is more active then he have been the rest of the game...


That sounds familiar! Oh right, it was the same logic Meapak was using to tell me I'm scum.

On June 17 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
Combine it with one of SS latest post:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 10:05 supersoft wrote:
kita and especially wiggles are not allowed to shoot on my paper right now. :-(
And please don't shoot before 00:00 tomorrow. I need some time to think about some things.
+ Don't panic. Noone of these dudes in here has the courage to shoot you before that timestamp.

Where he was mentioning Kita. Maybe Kita was bussing the living shit out of MZ.


He must be right then. He mentioned Wiggles too. Lets kill him as well.

On June 17 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
I think Kita is the guy to kill tomorrow. He have been absent for large periods of time during this game and promised us post left and right. He haven't delivered and then come in calling for MZ's head. He didn't pull the trigger though (maybe RoL beat him to it) and we have no evidence he actually can shoot.


The only time I was absent was when my internet was down and when I was ninja'd and didn't want to post during the night cycle. There was no need to make a post when Meapak was clearly the person to go after yesterday.

On June 17 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
Kita also didnt seem in any way upset about how the day ended with no discussion:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 13:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Another quality day cycle. :D


Nope, in fact I was quite happy Meapak was shot before Rambo came in randomly shooting someone else
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 17 2012 16:48 GMT
#1204
On June 18 2012 01:44 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
The whole storyline after MZ shot SS is weird. Kita, who have been almost non-existant during the game suddenly became the most vocal to tell everyone how scummy MZ was and that we should all kill him. It just seem weird that Kita suddenly is more active then he have been the rest of the game...


That sounds familiar! Oh right, it was the same logic Meapak was using to tell me I'm scum.

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
Combine it with one of SS latest post:
On June 16 2012 10:05 supersoft wrote:
kita and especially wiggles are not allowed to shoot on my paper right now. :-(
And please don't shoot before 00:00 tomorrow. I need some time to think about some things.
+ Don't panic. Noone of these dudes in here has the courage to shoot you before that timestamp.

Where he was mentioning Kita. Maybe Kita was bussing the living shit out of MZ.


He must be right then. He mentioned Wiggles too. Lets kill him as well.

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
I think Kita is the guy to kill tomorrow. He have been absent for large periods of time during this game and promised us post left and right. He haven't delivered and then come in calling for MZ's head. He didn't pull the trigger though (maybe RoL beat him to it) and we have no evidence he actually can shoot.


The only time I was absent was when my internet was down and when I was ninja'd and didn't want to post during the night cycle. There was no need to make a post when Meapak was clearly the person to go after yesterday.

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
Kita also didnt seem in any way upset about how the day ended with no discussion:
On June 17 2012 13:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Another quality day cycle. :D


Nope, in fact I was quite happy Meapak was shot before Rambo came in randomly shooting someone else


These arguments aren't even refutations, especially 1 and 2. I don't know if you're scum or not, but saying 'a scum used this logic' does nothing to discredit the logic itself necessarily. And your flippancy on Wiggles is irrelevant. 'There was no need to make a post' is also weak

try harder plz love
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 17 2012 16:52 GMT
#1205
On June 18 2012 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
These arguments aren't even refutations, especially 1 and 2.


Those arguments aren't even arguments. He's saying I'm scum because I was interested in getting the godfather lynched and a deadguy thought I could posibly be scum -_-
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 17 2012 16:57 GMT
#1206
so who are your targets for today?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 17 2012 17:16 GMT
#1207
On June 18 2012 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
so who are your targets for today?


It's night time. The last thing we need is a VE statement declaring I'm going to guarantee to shoot the doctor.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 17 2012 17:23 GMT
#1208
Okay I'm back in my place and could start analyzin' soon buuut, since the GF is now dead we don't actually need that imo lol

GF is dead which means we have a mafia without a gun. What about Supersofts massclaim idea? No full massclaim, just telling people wether or not you have a gun and if you have a gun you're good first of all and if you don't you might be mafia.
We don't want a full massclain because we might have vets or stuff like that and I obviously don't want to tell mafia where to not shoot and where to shoot instead.

That way we're going to end up with 2 groups:

a) I do have a gun
b) I do not have a gun.

We make the suspicious people (everryone!) shoot the most suspicious out of group b. That way we know the guys from a are not fakeclaimers, because we're forcing them to shoot. That also means we don't need people who already shot to shoot another time and those people need to wait for the other guy to shoot.
Also mafia will proooobably shoot into the claimed "have a gun"-group because we know the mafia can't be in that group and they don't want to thin out the B-group they're in himself. Which means if there is a SK we'll know that becaus there's KP missing. So far it's not really clear if there is a SK because theoretically it could be a mafia vig and a blue vig that shot yesterday for example although that's kind of unlikely.

Any Drawbacks I'm missing? I already claimed VT yesterday and I never ended up shooting because of this "herpederpe I'ma going to shoot 5 mins into the deadline!" when I'm asleep. So I'd be willing to take the shot to prove that I have a gun.

Probably missed a bunch in the thread because of the birthday of my nephew today, football yesterday, football today (in an hour) and shopping yesterday, so I hope noone else posted this before. I literally just came trough the door of my flat, plugged the laptop in and posted what I thought about while on the train.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 17 2012 17:24 GMT
#1209
Oh and yeah, we obviously don't do that at night. Just a thought we can already talk about and if we do that we're doing once the day has started.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 17 2012 19:40 GMT
#1210
I do have a gun
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 18 2012 04:21 GMT
#1211
Post coming later as I'm reading a bunch of stuff right now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 18 2012 08:08 GMT
#1212
Night 4
[image loading]


marvellosity, Vanilla Towny has been killed
kitaman27, Vanilla Towny has been killed

+ Show Spoiler [Role] +

You are a Vanilla Towny. You've had enough. No more sitting around voting on who's guilty. You've got a gun, and people will learn to listen to you or get bent. Any time during the day you may type ##kill(##Kill): player in the thread and shoot them. The day will end once you shoot. Once you have shot, you have to wait X number of days to shoot again where X is based on the total number of times you've shot during the game. So if you've shot at 2 people during the game, you have to wait 2 days before shooting again.

You win when all anti-town players are eliminated. Good luck!



It is now Day 5 with 8 players alive. The day ends in 24 hours at 4:00 AM ET / 17:00 KST. Good luck!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 18 2012 08:10 GMT
#1213
Also we need a replacement for Dirkzor. If you're interested send me a PM. Thanks!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
June 18 2012 08:26 GMT
#1214
Guess my Kita read was all wrong =( Like all my reads... Maybe replacement is a good thing...

Reason for replacement: As I wrote pregame I'm going to Prague to drink for the next 5 days... I'm leaving in a few hours so if you want anything answered by me and not my replacement please ask soon.

To Ace: I'll continue to play until I see I'm replaced. I'll try to check from Prague but I can't make any promises.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 18 2012 10:08 GMT
#1215
gg
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 18 2012 10:32 GMT
#1216
soooo. What about the claiming thing?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 18 2012 10:58 GMT
#1217
gg gl!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
payl
Profile Joined June 2012
11 Posts
June 18 2012 16:31 GMT
#1218
I will make the assumption that sk cannot shoot both day/night - that would be grossly unfair
- we have had two deaths every night except for n0 (where rol claimed hit) and n2 (where only mr wiggles died)

Two things I want today - before anyone shoots, give target of shot a chance to claim and defend himself
- if someone states they want to shoot you and you have a gun, do not immediately go ahead and shoot that person - that other player could possibly be misguided town rather than scum trying to pull a quick one


Obviously, nobody shoots rol. And rol should not be the shooter, we already know that he can shoot.

Since I expect the rest of you to try to draw conclusions based on gun claim information, I will now claim to be able to shoot. Since my claim is the latest, and arguably least trustworthy in this respect, I should be the actual shooter today. I will choose a tenative target to shoot in awhile.

Here's what we have:
rol has fired his gun
zealos, layabout, kenpachi, toads, payl claim to have guns
dirkzor, mrzentor have not claimed guns

I'd like to note that if we have a watcher or any other blue, then at least one player claiming to have a gun (that can shoot during the day) is lying.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 18 2012 17:10 GMT
#1219
i want to see layabout shoot for today's kill.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 17:44 GMT
#1220
On June 19 2012 02:10 Kenpachi wrote:
i want to see layabout shoot for today's kill.

must... resist..

anyway:
i can shoot.
we need players to claim whether or not they can shoot
i think that if one of the people that's claimed a gun is lying it's probably zealos primarily because he promised to be active, he promised to provide content and he has done neither of those things.

On June 14 2012 20:28 Zealos wrote:
So like, I have hours of spare time over the next week, so hopefully I should be useful for a change.
Rebirth, why should one of Ken and Toad be killed?

+ Show Spoiler +
From looking over the last couple of page there are some pretty strong cases on Zentor. I wanna hear a responce, and even if we think he is scum, we should hold off shooting him long enough to make use of the day.

Marv, you've been pretty quiet after mishooting, I wanna see more of you, you're a bastard to deal with as mafia, so get posting.


He tentatively agrees that the case on Mr. Zentor is strong but he delays giving a verdict before reading the case on cephiro.
On June 14 2012 23:52 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 23:27 rastaban wrote:
On June 14 2012 23:04 Zealos wrote:
On June 14 2012 20:58 supersoft wrote:
claim

You want me to claim?

Don't claim, we don't have any info on you yet though. I would love if you would look over the cases against Zentor and Ceph and give your thoughts and any reads you have coming in fresh. You just subbed in so I know you need time to catch up so start with the current cases if you can and then let us know your thoughts in general on how things are playing out. Were you following before you subbed in? How do you think town should proceed?

I was vaguely following out of interest of the setup, but haven't had very lose looks on anything. The case on My Zentor seems to be the strongest by far right at the moment, but I haven't read the one on Ceph yet, so I'll have to look back and see :3

And yet he doesn't follow this up with either a conclusion or any further mention of the cephiro case.

He appeared to think that Toadesstern was mafia for a while but he couldn't articulate why. 3 days ago he said he would "figure it out" but when he will figure it out is anyone's guess.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 16 2012 06:59 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 06:14 layabout wrote:
Well i think Toad is making sense.

Zealos can you put the red text aside and give an explanation that relies on more than just a "Vague feeling of oddness"?

Not really. I don't plan on shooting him. Yet. I'll figure it out soon enough.


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