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On June 13 2012 09:25 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 09:05 marvellosity wrote:
So... I'll leave everyone else to catch the scum now. Sound good? Just pick yourself up and go at it again. It's not like one mistake means the end of the game.
What chaoser said basicly.
So supersoft is most likely town-aligned. (There might be a framer but the chance of him being on supersoft are very low)
I don't really understand the replacements? Did they ask for replacement or what? I'm guessing wbg did since he ended with "good luck" or something. But kita posts like he want to continue? Also kenpachi havent posted at all since early n0.
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i could be godfather, too o_o
this check doesnt really give us anything...
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On June 13 2012 12:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Check it out, Kita AND zentor show up to tell us how dumb we are.
Would have been just snazzy if you gentleman had actually been around during the day.
Already announced that it wouldn't be possible. If you saw the merits of the let the cop live plan, why were you so quick to flip your opinion on him and call for his death?
On June 13 2012 17:03 Dirkzor wrote:
But kita posts like he want to continue?
I didn't ask for a replacement?
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On June 13 2012 12:07 MrZentor wrote:
I don't see how anybody could have thought Gonzaw was scum after that claim.
The balls of steel was the sort of detail which sum doesn't have the time or energy to fabricate.
You've not seen gonzaw play scum, have you?
And stop saying what scum do and don't do or say. It's crap.
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Hopefully people have some stuff to work with from how it all went down though. Plenty of information around (he says, clutching at straws)
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But then why are you up for replacement while kenpachi is not? Doesn't make sense to me... O_o
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On June 13 2012 21:00 Dirkzor wrote:
But then why are you up for replacement while kenpachi is not? Doesn't make sense to me... O_o
On June 13 2012 09:00 Ace wrote:
risk.nuke and wherebugsgo need to be replaced out of the game. If anyone wants to replace in PM me immediately
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Oh... I don't seem to be able to conprehend stuff this game... =(
Sorry kita! Still doesn't make sense with Kenpachi...
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On June 13 2012 12:07 MrZentor wrote:
I don't see how anybody could have thought Gonzaw was scum after that claim.
The balls of steel was the sort of detail which sum doesn't have the time or energy to fabricate.
In set-ups like these mafias usually get fake claims or can request fakeclaims or at least ask what the PMs are like. So really the balls of steel thing was a null because if he was mafia he would have had the same information imo.
On June 13 2012 12:16 MrZentor wrote:
I thought you guys would have waited at least an hour before the end of the day before shooting, so I thought I would be on at the end. -.-
Sorry the deadline is something like 8am for me and it was already 2am. I'm not going to make it until deadline or even 4 hours prior to deadline, ever.
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On June 13 2012 21:21 Dirkzor wrote:
Oh... I don't seem to be able to conprehend stuff this game... =(
Sorry kita! Still doesn't make sense with Kenpachi...
maybe those people requested replacements and Kenpachi didn't...
On June 13 2012 21:55 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:07 MrZentor wrote:
I don't see how anybody could have thought Gonzaw was scum after that claim.
The balls of steel was the sort of detail which sum doesn't have the time or energy to fabricate. In set-ups like these mafias usually get fake claims or can request fakeclaims or at least ask what the PMs are like. So really the balls of steel thing was a null because if he was mafia he would have had the same information imo. Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:16 MrZentor wrote:
I thought you guys would have waited at least an hour before the end of the day before shooting, so I thought I would be on at the end. -.-
Sorry the deadline is something like 8am for me and it was already 2am. I'm not going to make it until deadline or even 4 hours prior to deadline, ever.
Deadline shots according to when the shot is fired right, so now the deadline will be 2am so you will be there for the next (or at least close to it)
This is why looking back now the most pro town move would have been to push super hard for a 48 hour day, it was mentioned by a few people but no one really pushed it (including me), we ended up talking about plans etc... and then not enough people voted for it so we lost that initiative. It looks like we have people playing from a lot of areas so it is hard to get everyones input in a single cycle....
Any way, time to get back to the task at hand. Lets review this mis-lynch... I have the feeling it was heavily pushed by townies as the mafia could just stay inactive but it is worth reviewing. Also time for everyone to reread his filter, even if at the end it is mostly directed at me. I think I have been playing very pro-town so far so hopefully people can see that it was a townie desperately trying to help but placing suspicions in the wrong direction.
A lot of time night is best used for reviewing and discussion is for the day but in this setup we are never guaranteed a day so it is important to discuss during the night.
Also Supersoft being confirmed (or nearly so) as town is really nice, I would love to hear more from him on what we should do next. If Gonzaw was right about him being a key player and he has been checked we can hopefully learn a lot from his discussion on the topic at hand.
I need to do more re-reading with the information at hand but currently I am seeing lots of green posting, maybe I am naive but not a lot of people are registering as scum to me yet so as I said I really want the lurkers to start posting. Risk, Payl, Kenpachi. We know Risk is getting replaced but the rest of these, something needs to happen. If things don't change we may want to start having our suspects shoot into that crowd to confirm themselves.
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EBWOP (need to proof, sorry)
Deadline shifts according to when the shot is fired right, so now the deadline will be 2am so you will be there for the next one (or at least be awake near when it occurs)
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rastaban, you did flipflop on gonzaw like a mofo.
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On June 13 2012 22:26 rastaban wrote:
EBWOP (need to proof, sorry)
Deadline shifts according to when the shot is fired right, so now the deadline will be 2am so you will be there for the next one (or at least be awake near when it occurs)
no it won't. I thought so as well because I'm pretty sure it was 12hours nights earlier in the OP (which would have shifted the whole thing by 12 hours at least, making it 6pm instead of 6am for me) but that's apparently not the case because it's 24 hour cycles and on top of that the nigt is extended to make up the deadline switch... This night is 28hours instead of 24 hours (so I guess it's realy 6 am because the shot was 2 am for me and 2+4 = 6 :p )
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On June 13 2012 22:32 marvellosity wrote:
rastaban, you did flipflop on gonzaw like a mofo.
True, Guess I should have stuck to my guns instead of listening to everyone else in town. I haven't played mafia in what, a year maybe, He made a massive plan that would never work since he hadn't read the basic rules of the game, I assumed he had to be a "stupid" towney (No offense Gonzaw just mean that you are winging it and not paying too much attention nothing personal). Thats what Ver said in his guide about players who push big plans and don't read setups, but it isn't 100% mafia can make stupid moves and once you read the guide as mafia you might push a big plan day 1, esspecially one that you know can't work.
The moment day appeared someone wanted to shoot him and I had to go to bed as it was late and I had to work in the morning so I agreed with the plan that we make him shoot someone. Why, because I still thought he was green and his shot would confirm him and end the pointless discussion, I even said that at one point. When we found out he didn't have a gun it was too late to save him at that point since he couldn't confirm himself by shooting someone scummy.
Someone whom is suspected by most of the town then doesn't have a gun, my only argument for him being town was that mafia would have payed more attention to the setup than a Towney. What about a blue, well they usually try to be a bit more hidden so it didn't fit, on top of that he won't claim forever (He should have claimed much earlier) and then his argument for picking soft was just atrocious.
I still stand by the second plan where I agreed with keeping him around and shooting someone else and see if mafia kill him.
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Oh just a thing I realized yesterday: WBG has the same alignment as VE has and vice versa. Whatever that maens.
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On June 13 2012 23:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 22:26 rastaban wrote:
EBWOP (need to proof, sorry)
Deadline shifts according to when the shot is fired right, so now the deadline will be 2am so you will be there for the next one (or at least be awake near when it occurs) no it won't. I thought so as well because I'm pretty sure it was 12hours nights earlier in the OP (which would have shifted the whole thing by 12 hours at least, making it 6pm instead of 6am for me) but that's apparently not the case because it's 24 hour cycles and on top of that the nigt is extended to make up the deadline switch... This night is 28hours instead of 24 hours (so I guess it's realy 6 am because the shot was 2 am for me and 2+4 = 6 :p )
Oh wow I was confused, time to list myself as stupid Towney too for not reading the end of that post. Well, while that sucks for you personally, it does slow the game down a bit so we do get more time to review during the night phase.
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On June 13 2012 23:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh just a thing I realized yesterday: WBG has the same alignment as VE has and vice versa. Whatever that maens.
How so?
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If what Toad says is true, then it isn't really THAT anti town to shoot a few minutes into the day, because then we'll basically have a 48 hour night.
Right?
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On June 13 2012 23:50 MrZentor wrote:
If what Toad says is true, then it isn't really THAT anti town to shoot a few minutes into the day, because then we'll basically have a 48 hour night.
Right?
you want the information from the night's events when discussing during the day
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and obviously if all discussion is during the night it informs scum night actions
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