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On May 24 2012 08:16 marvellosity wrote:Also, because it got lost on the last page: Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you?
I was asleep. Deal.
Hiro isn't scum for arguing with me. He's scum for making a useless case that makes literally no sense at all. It feels like he made the case just for the sake of making the case, and as a result, it didn't make sense.
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Actually, to clarify the first portion of the post. I was asleep just before deadline. I still felt mouldy was the best lynch. Looking for scum doesn't help when there's nothing to see.
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On May 24 2012 08:20 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:14 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 08:10 HiroPro wrote:
Posts cases. Gives reasons. Scum shows up and says "oh but why aren't you trying to convince other people, huh". There's no point telling people that you think someones scum if you're not gonna try to convince the town to vote with you, or it's just a waste of a vote. I guess it would be convenient for the mafia players though, tell the town you think someone is scum, but because you don't make a case, no one else will vote for him, so the player will never die and you'll never get proved wrong. Bla bla bla bla bla. I like saying useless WIFOM stuff to fill up my filter.
Well this is a really townie looking defense.
Very keen to shit up the thread Hiro?
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On May 24 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:18 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 08:16 marvellosity wrote:Also, because it got lost on the last page: On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you? I was asleep. Deal.Hiro isn't scum for arguing with me. He's scum for making a useless case that makes literally no sense at all. It feels like he made the case just for the sake of making the case, and as a result, it didn't make sense. Ok guys, we're lynching Zealos today. See bold for his excuse on not providing scumreads. See below timestamp for his post where he deferred his scumhunting: Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 00:04 Zealos wrote:On May 23 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2012 00:00 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2012 23:15 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:09 Mattchew wrote:On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote:
yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass. "In a town shaped by the subtle machinations and political intrigue of its guilds, it's reassuring to see a goblin waving his torch and screaming about some nonsense or other." —Agrus Kos Lol. Gotta say I agree, I just don't understand what he's talking about o.O Terrible town, or terrible mafia imo.##vote: MouldyJeb Do you not have an opinion which? And presuming you do, why? Leaning on terrible town, because his team would have shut him up or at least coached him by now imo. Still strongest lynch atm though. Lurked to begin with, followed with nonsensical posting. You don't have a single scumread? No strong ones, no, I haven't had a good enough look over the thread. I'll look over everything at the end of the night, because even if I tried to make a case now it'd probably be too late to get anything done about it. 00:04 KST, otherwise known as 16:04 BST. Asleep my arse. This guy is fucking scummyscumscum.
Notice my 2nd part. I said I didn't have any scumreads. I fail to see what's difficult to understand.
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On May 24 2012 08:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:20 Zealos wrote:
Actually, to clarify the first portion of the post. I was asleep just before deadline. I still felt mouldy was the best lynch. Looking for scum doesn't help when there's nothing to see. Even this is still bullshit. Everything that you posted in your 'cases' on me and zelblade happened BEFORE the post I timestamped above. Scum.
So the one thing I have done that is actually scummy is that I didnt have cases on day1?
He's got me guys, looks like I'm gonna die.
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On May 24 2012 08:25 marvellosity wrote:
And notice my 2nd part, darling.
Lazy ≠ Scum.
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On May 24 2012 08:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:26 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 08:24 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 08:20 Zealos wrote:
Actually, to clarify the first portion of the post. I was asleep just before deadline. I still felt mouldy was the best lynch. Looking for scum doesn't help when there's nothing to see. Even this is still bullshit. Everything that you posted in your 'cases' on me and zelblade happened BEFORE the post I timestamped above. Scum. So the one thing I have done that is actually scummy is that I didnt have cases on day1? He's got me guys, looks like I'm gonna die. The one thing? you're handily forgetting my entire case preceding this. This is just the red cherry on top of your sweet red scum head.
Uh huh. Is that so ~
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Well, I'm Going to bed I won't be posting until I've woken up AND done my exam. Sorry <3 Don't kill me for going to bed please.
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I can't believe no one else detects the Red on Hiro.....
I guess I'll try to convince you later, got an exam to run to.
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On May 24 2012 15:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Guys, this is in the bag. bugs, Nova, bang, bang. Half the scum dead. This is really happening, 2 scum down. We just have to make them die.
Join me.
Add hiro to the list and we can make it happen. As a gesture of faith, we can go ahead and kill hiro today.
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On May 24 2012 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
As opposed to Zealos who was happy bandwagoning Mouldy Jeb who he believed to be town, because he couldn't be arsed to actually find scum. Bleh.
Let me spell it out to you, as you don't seem to understand.
In a game where some one has to die, and my current reads are:
13 town looking players
1 scummy but still overall town, also useless in general.
Who do you vote for? It's like trying to explain maths to a toodler...
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On May 24 2012 19:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:24 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
As opposed to Zealos who was happy bandwagoning Mouldy Jeb who he believed to be town, because he couldn't be arsed to actually find scum. Bleh. Let me spell it out to you, as you don't seem to understand. In a game where some one has to die, and my current reads are: 13 town looking players 1 scummy but still overall town, also useless in general. Who do you vote for? It's like trying to explain maths to a toodler... Let me spell it out to you, because you're an idiot. In a game where one has to die, and each lynch is important. You decide not to look for scum until after the lynch is over and lynch someone you believe to be a townie instead. As pointed out the 'reads you came up with all happened before you decided to pack it in for the day and be happy with lynching someone you thought was town. I voted for someone who I thought was scum. It's like trying to explain mafia to a toddler? No, I do toddlers a disservice. To a fucking stone.
I voted for the person who seemed most likely scum at the time. Obviously, he flipped town, so clearly I'm mafia because logic.
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On May 24 2012 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
Yep, way to not be able to read and misrepresent what's been said. You're a real star.
You're saying because I wasn't able to find, and vote for, a scum on day1, I'm mafia.
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Marvel displaying his apt reading skills. Clearly hiro's my number one scumread at this point, his case at the start of the day literally screamed mafia to me.
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On May 24 2012 20:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 20:14 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
Yep, way to not be able to read and misrepresent what's been said. You're a real star. You're saying because I wasn't able to find, and vote for, a scum on day1, I'm mafia. No, I'm saying that you COULD have done so. You abdicated searching for scum 7+ hours from the deadline, and the next day your reads all came from posts before that point. You actively chose NOT to hunt for scum when judging by your later cases the evidence was there for you, and you chose to lynch a townie because you actively chose this option.
I'm not the only one who didn't make a case on day1, why me?
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Ok, fair enough, give me 2 mins.
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It's more a case of, his case jumped at me, and the follow up digging pulled up some "interesting" things.
Firstly: His cases are full of a LOT of bull:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2012 06:58 HiroPro wrote:+ Show Spoiler [I don't think any of you guys ev…] +On May 22 2012 00:31 HiroPro wrote:There are two things that make me suspicious of Tunkeg. The first is the timing of Tunkeg's "I'm going to change it up" post. Either town or scum are capable of saying that they want to change their playstyle. If you look at this game, ET also says that he wants to change his play. But he does this BEFORE roles are out. The second is the way that Tunkeg responds to Acrofales's post against him: HE DOESN'T RESPOND. Show nested quote +
You don't like my opening post, and thats ok. ET is comming to my defense, and are voting for you. What is your take on this situation? Do you think ET have any motives for defending me, and if so what are they?
All he does is go "lolol someone coming to my defense" and try to shift attention onto ET "Do you think ET have any motives for defending me". Show nested quote +
@VE
What do yout hink of WBG's helpfull opening post? I ask you because you got the most experience with him. As a standard normal player I would put this as a pro-town. With WBG I am unsure, as he is thought of as one of the best scumplayers on TL, and I think he is capable of leveling us with these kinds of posts.
@WBG
If you were a dayvig and had to lynch someone right now, who would it be and why?
@Acrofalis
You don't like my opening post, and thats ok. ET is comming to my defense, and are voting for you. What is your take on this situation? Do you think ET have any motives for defending me, and if so what are they?
@NT
What do you think about Acrofalis play thus far?
@ET
Not to derail your arguemnent with Acrofalis to much, but what do you get out of Zealos posts thus far?
@Zealos
I can see why someone would throw out a random vote on someone to pressure as number one (even if I don't think it is a great way of pressuring).You do this as number two on VE, for no reason. And next you are sheeping ET on his Acrofalis vote. Why did you vote VE? And could elaborate why you are voting Acrofalis?
These questions are meaningless. Tunkeg doesn't actually pressure anyone. He doesn't follow up on them or use them in his "list of 'reads'". He says that he wants to post better analysis, but he doesn't actually do that. Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 00:14 Tunkeg wrote:
EchelonTee - Scum
So I have changed my mind. I had ET leaning town early on in the game, I was wrong. He is scum, and this is why:
1. He have been trying to appear active while not really being active. His post have mostly consisted of oneliners, soft accusations and defending others. I think his defence om me was for this purpose only. To appear active, get easy townpoints and be able to put down an early vote. Isolated I viewed his arguement with Acrofalis as townie, as he was sticking his head out. In hindsight I see this as mentioned above - a way to appear active.
2. He don't really want to give us his reads. I have asked him for reads two times, he ignores it. Why dodge questions like that if you are town? Sure, he might think they are trivial and not worth spending his time on. But I see refusing to answer questions as scummy.
3. He listed that he would be ok with lynching jeb, acid and Katina without any reason. Between them there are two newbies, who are an easy misslynch because they are inexperienced and Katina, who is famous for being very lurky (at least she have been in all games I have played with her), and is also a player that is easy to get a misslynch on.
4. He voted for jeb just before the deadline (on the deadline actually) without any reason. And in a very suspicious way: "When is the deadline", like he did it on purpose, so that he wouldn't have to post any reasoning to why he voted jeb, and not get hold accountable for it.
ET is my number one scumread. Feel free to discuss it or not, especially if you disagree. If you agreeyou are probably better off waiting until after the night is over. Because if ET is scum scumteam will probably lynch someone who agrees to make it less likely he get lynched on day 2. As for his "case" against ET, lol. Apparently, in Tunkeg world, being an active poster who pressures people is a scum trait. Tunkeg is a faker.
All this is, is quoting Tunkeg, then calling his case stupid. There's no substance at all, why isn't he actually trying to convince people that Tunkeg is mafia, instead of just saying LOLOLSCUM!111
Second: This still makes me lol: On May 24 2012 07:19 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote ++ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2012 00:14 Tunkeg wrote:
EchelonTee - Scum
So I have changed my mind. I had ET leaning town early on in the game, I was wrong. He is scum, and this is why:
1. He have been trying to appear active while not really being active. His post have mostly consisted of oneliners, soft accusations and defending others. I think his defence om me was for this purpose only. To appear active, get easy townpoints and be able to put down an early vote. Isolated I viewed his arguement with Acrofalis as townie, as he was sticking his head out. In hindsight I see this as mentioned above - a way to appear active.
2. He don't really want to give us his reads. I have asked him for reads two times, he ignores it. Why dodge questions like that if you are town? Sure, he might think they are trivial and not worth spending his time on. But I see refusing to answer questions as scummy.
3. He listed that he would be ok with lynching jeb, acid and Katina without any reason. Between them there are two newbies, who are an easy misslynch because they are inexperienced and Katina, who is famous for being very lurky (at least she have been in all games I have played with her), and is also a player that is easy to get a misslynch on.
4. He voted for jeb just before the deadline (on the deadline actually) without any reason. And in a very suspicious way: "When is the deadline", like he did it on purpose, so that he wouldn't have to post any reasoning to why he voted jeb, and not get hold accountable for it.
ET is my number one scumread. Feel free to discuss it or not, especially if you disagree. If you agreeyou are probably better off waiting until after the night is over. Because if ET is scum scumteam will probably lynch someone who agrees to make it less likely he get lynched on day 2. Oh look, your "number one scumread" died. How convenient. Guess that gives you more time to post useless questions and lists, huh. ##Vote Tunkeg
This is utter rubbish. It makes no sense whatsoever, and it seems strange that when a townie is killed, the first thing he thinks of is Tunkegs number one scumread. No looking into the reason of death or anything, just using it to continue to tunnel Tunkeg.
Thanks for the input, Tunkeg's scumbuddy. -- Thanks for the useful comment, Hiro.
Bla bla bla bla bla. I like saying useless WIFOM stuff to fill up my filter. I'm pretty sure your entire case after his number one scumread died was WIFOM. Are you secretly claiming scum in thread?
And then look at this gem:
On May 24 2012 08:27 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 08:18 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 08:16 marvellosity wrote:Also, because it got lost on the last page: On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you? I was asleep. Deal.Hiro isn't scum for arguing with me. He's scum for making a useless case that makes literally no sense at all. It feels like he made the case just for the sake of making the case, and as a result, it didn't make sense. Ok guys, we're lynching Zealos today. See bold for his excuse on not providing scumreads. See below timestamp for his post where he deferred his scumhunting: On May 23 2012 00:04 Zealos wrote:On May 23 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2012 00:00 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2012 23:15 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:09 Mattchew wrote:On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote:
yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass. "In a town shaped by the subtle machinations and political intrigue of its guilds, it's reassuring to see a goblin waving his torch and screaming about some nonsense or other." —Agrus Kos Lol. Gotta say I agree, I just don't understand what he's talking about o.O Terrible town, or terrible mafia imo.##vote: MouldyJeb Do you not have an opinion which? And presuming you do, why? Leaning on terrible town, because his team would have shut him up or at least coached him by now imo. Still strongest lynch atm though. Lurked to begin with, followed with nonsensical posting. You don't have a single scumread? No strong ones, no, I haven't had a good enough look over the thread. I'll look over everything at the end of the night, because even if I tried to make a case now it'd probably be too late to get anything done about it. 00:04 KST, otherwise known as 16:04 BST. Asleep my arse. This guy is fucking scummyscumscum. BOOM. We can lynch this guy today and Tunkeg tomorrow. ##Unvote
##Vote Zealos
"Ok, Tunkeg might not die, lets just hop on the bandwagon of someone who can actually construct proper cases, then continue tunneling Tunkeg after."
He is super duper red. Vote for him now?
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Yeah, there's no doubt it's different, I just don't see why a town would post the way he does. Anyone with a reasonable level of logic would realize that his case made no sense, so I assume he did. So why did he make it in the first place, and try to back it up when it was clear it wasn't reasonable?
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but does he have a town play when he's aggressive? If not, it kinda seems irrelevant, if it's a completely new meta for him.
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I don't get it. You guys seem happy to complain that I'm not defending myself, and yet, I've defended myself from what Marvel said as far as I'm concerned, any more back and forth only serves to clutter the thread. If any of you people can make the time to actually make decent cases instead of just complaining at each other back and forth. Notice an absence of Hiro? I do. He's happy to sit and watch townies attack each other.
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