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On May 22 2012 05:31 froggynoddy wrote: *sigh* I give up N_T. This is wasting enough space as it is. If this is how you play town, or even generally argue your points, then I kinda feel sorry for you. Thats okay froggy you can stop pitying me now and be good <3
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where the frick is katina Tunkeg what about my play do you find noncommittal?
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I like Navillus' last post, especially regarding mattchew. dont know if it merits a vote yet, but i agree that its irritating as hell
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i had two seperate things to note which i saw at different times, ofc i'll post them
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Could we get a vote count?
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VE thats an interesting idea, but can that actually happen in normal games?
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Thanks a bunch sleep now back tomorrow
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On May 22 2012 07:25 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 05:52 froggynoddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 22 2012 05:29 Tunkeg wrote: Reads d1 of Day1
Acrofalis/Marvellosity: Leaning town based on Acrofalis aggression while he was in game. He tried to get this game going, and tried to apply some pressure.
EchelonTee: Leaning town. He went into a fight with Acrofalis from the get go, and haven't been afraid to stick his head out.
Zealos Get some scumvibes off him. He started the game by voting VE as number two, without a good reason. He claims it to be a joke later (which it might be). He then proceeds to vote Acrofales based on ET's case, and because of meta, basicly sheeping ET. The rest of his filter seems very empty, even though he got more post than most in this game. Some townpoints for actually bother to answer questions.
Mattchew He might be one of those I called out for not posting earlier, that is a scum. I don't know what he is trying to do, but if his postingstyle continues this way he will be disruptive townie at best, and sabotaging scum at worst. Leaning scum for now.
Nova_Terra Leaning scum. He was active at the start, but unlike Acrofalis his attempts at pushing seems more forced, and with no real weight behind it. His whole postingstyle seems very non-commital and gives me scumvibes.
Also Navillus need to get in the thread and do some more. His vote on WBG is the only thing he have done. And it was done without much reasoning, and in my opinion strange reasoning.
PS: I know you guys don't like list. But I want to do lists so bare with me.
PS 2: This is not an analysis post. It is a read post. When I am ready to put my vote down on someone I will try to make a good case/analysis on them. Exception is if there is a great case on them that I agree with, then I will be open about sheeping it, and probably just add some of my own reasoning to it.
This list... serves no purpose other than making you look active. Town reads are worse than useless day 1 as 1. they are even weaker than day 1 scumreads and 2. points to scum who to kill to cause confusion. EDIT: There was more but WBG and Navillus covered it whilst I was writing + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote: Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot.
Next ##Unvote ##Vote: Mattchew
As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.
On N_T yes VE and WBG I'd say he's using pretty bad method of scumhunting/analysis and his vote is for a dumb reason, but that doesn't make him scum and aside from clear-cut examples of someone being useless or disruptive (such as restricting their posts to text from a card game) it's a bad idea to lynch someone for bad play, in my experience it's rarely a scumtell and depending on how they're playing badly it can be more of a town tell.
Tunkeg you asked a bunch of questions earlier, most of them were ignored, was there any point to them? Why don't you care that people didn't answer you/why aren't you following up? Also why post that list, if you have scum reads why aren't you just pressuring them instead of telling them, and how does telling everyone your town-reads do anything but let scum know who you think is townie and so light them up as targets?
Holy spam batman! NT scum or town please stop with multiple one or two line posts in a row, it's distracting and makes the thread harder to read through, consolidate. How is voting for Mattchew due to his posting style (which you consider to be *Bad*) different to voting N_T based on bad play? I don't necessarily disagree with you I just think you're being a little inconsistent. Shoot I forgot to unvote as promised: ##Unvote ##Vote KatinaInactive players kill town. Katina, my vote stays on you until you make an appearance. I made an apperance earlier today. Do you not read over the thread my dear? Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 03:27 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 22 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2012 21:17 Nova_Terra wrote: Hey VE since you seem to want to ignore my challenge who do you wanna kill Hey Nova, since you seem to want to ignore my question to you (something that's actually USEFUL to this game, unlike your "challenge"), how about you actually answer it instead of trying to distract town with meaningless drivel? I'll even repost it for your convenience. On May 21 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2012 05:59 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 21 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote: Whether or not advice is good has nothing to do with the alignment of a player, just the same as making a plan, regardless of how good it is, is generally not indicative of alignment.
If the advice makes sense, follow it. If not, don't. The question of "is this guy scum" has nothing to do with that. I never said that it has anything to do with indicacating the alignment of the player,i said that general advice seems to be contributing but isnt really. and that its just as likely mister helpful is scum, etc. Your style has so far been laced with an air of giving advice to the other players - in what way is Bugs' post giving advice any different from, say, you warning that "players trying to give advice could be scum"? ooh i forgot about that Its different because its not all i've done and because i know im town and its not really different itself, but i was aware of the hypocrisy before i made teh post I would to bring attention to this lovely post. N_T might be the BM version 2! I say this because of his spam, oneliners, and the fact he seems to be refreshing the thread every 5 minutes. When BM is mafia he always over emphasizes that he is confirmed town. Such things are silly to say and provide no help to the town I will be setting my vote. ##Vote Nove_TerraBased on his fliter, he seems to more interesting in proving his innocence then trying to find the Mafia. Wait this is OH LOOK the player kindasorta plays like a different player sometimes and he made 1 line that was similar to that player! and therefore hes scum! and its funny that YOU say that such things are silly to say and provide no help to the town.
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On May 22 2012 08:39 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 07:27 marvellosity wrote: Guys. Look at Nova's filter in LIV where he was also town (and where I won on your behalf, Katina dearest). Very similar. Not convinced by his lynch at all. He gives credit where credit isn't due. You should give credit where it is due; I'm playing my town meta spot on, i've contributed, pressured, and encouraged activity by example, which is more than half the players in the game have done althoughh im surprised marv didnt join the Nova Scumwagon as well
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On May 22 2012 14:18 EchelonTee wrote: acid, jeb, katina, or no lynch
i think one of those should happen in no particular order froggy, katina, WBG
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Could anyone summarize cases on Jeb for me in a sentence or two?
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On May 22 2012 16:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Bugs, I loathe to talk about my reads with you for balance reasons, but everyone else has forsaken us.
How confident are YOU that Nova is scum? I feel like he went limp kinda quick, but aside from that has at least quit posting scummily. Whether that's just because he's quit posting is obviously up for debate. Combined with the fact that he's got so many people going "Meta him bro" and the fact that he's all "Meta me bro" and it just looks really bad.
But something doesn't feel right - like, he seems like TOO easy a target, ya know? I quit posting "scummily" because i was asleep, i'll be posting a bunch again in just a few hours, dont worry
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On May 22 2012 17:44 zelblade wrote: About my lack of activity: I was quite busy yesterday. I'll probably be more active today.
I hate people who post with self-imposed restrictions. Of course this doesnt apply when people are actually able to remain clear - Foolishness in Aperture for instance. However, when it gets plain irritating and difficult to infer (maybe its bad reading comprehension but w/e) its a complete pain in the ass. What this obviously means is that I dont like Mattchew and want to lynch him. Yes its a policy lynch but I dont care.
Nova's posting is horrible, I agree. So he votes VE because VE is supposedly a bitch to play with and because hes a vet. As pointed out, terribad logic. But of course its a first vote, and its day one, probable joke vote, so lets just let that slide. A little more of bad logic on the Tunkeg point - if you really believe people are going to follow you reads AFTER they mislynch you for being disruptive.... okay. And town doesnt neccessarily have to be "sure" unless you are a mafia god/hacker who never doubts his reads. The philospohy of "Guilty until proven innocent" is useful but that doesnt mean that you can lynch everyone day 1 because you feel they havent proved their innocence day 1 enough wtf. Since I dont feel like going through the rest of it ill stop here.
I agree with VE that this lynch just seems so... easy? His actions are pretty disruptive though, and Im fine with killing him for the continious pushing of bad logic.
Im fine with either of this two today Did you just say you have a problem with being open to lynching many people on day 1? after saying that you would let a vote on VE slide because its day 1? Whatever you think bro
I never said i was open to lynching everyone, please make correct judgements
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Furthermore what about my logic is bad aside from the tunkeg thing, which, may i add, was very unclear as the time as the way he had made it seem was where he had really good scumhunting but everyone liked to lynch him because of the type of scumhunting.
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Right now im finding Mattchews play kind of cute, frustrating but cute. if he doesnt actually make some good, non-MTG card flavor analysis in the near future then I would be open to lynching him.
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Hey ET wanna lynch Katina? His play feels remarkably similar to LIV(scum)
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On May 22 2012 23:42 marvellosity wrote: Katina is a lady I think i knew that actually. Apologies, it appears that my brain may be malfunctioning
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T-T i hate defenses like this
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I actually liked the tone used in zealos' early posts, but yeah, you pointed out some serious wtf stuff. I'm leaning scummy on him. Mouldy I think is just awful town. I don't think a scum could play like that. Hurts me inside
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Nobody else open to lynching Katina?
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